Yeah just before the Leicester game
Kurt Zouma / 180 hours community service + banned from keeping cats for 5 years
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I'm not sure how both aren't criminal acts if Park was taking offence.
I honestly couldn't know tbh. Words have their meanings, specially when it comes to the important issues we are talking about
Congratulations, you're now a racist, please wait up upto 2 weeks for your membership card to arrive by Luftwaffe Mail.
Membership perks include discounted robes (white only) along with buy one get one free offers on selected (white) capirotes just incase they come off during a spontaneous chase/organised exercise/"fun" run.
Sounds like he turned tail and ran
But Moyes is a footballer manager managing a football club and it’s his job to select footballers to play football in a football match. No consideration given to anything beyond football.
I see you mate!
Racism gets 8 matches though. Slapping a cat should get you banned for the season?
Heavy fine I would say is fair. And by heavy I mean heavy. Its not a police case so its only so much they can do
You're comparing past punishments handed out by the FA to someone's opinion on a different incident.
I know, but whats fair? It really difficult. I think a very hefty fine with that being paid to an animal charity is the best one. And by hefty i dont mean a week or two wagesz but from 4/6
Poor from West Ham, they should have at least banned him for a couple games, but instead they choose to hurt their own reputation.
Singling out someone because of their ethnicity no matter the intention, is criminal.
Bans are deterrents as well as punishments, and this is the first ever animal abuse in English football, whereas racism happens weekly. If anything, the bans for racism should be far stricter.
We know Souness is a racist, so him wanting longer bans for animal abuse than racial abuse is expected
Do most people hold the Suarez issue (and how they dealt with it) against Liverpool? Nope... West Ham will survive.
Well, that's just purrfect, but if we could replace the robes with a Furarri, even better.
You're referring to the Lamela incident I take it. That's more prejudice than racism, though.
Pogba has actually been posting and defending Zouma's actions online throughout the week.
They are both disgraces. Albeit to a lesser extent.
The videos of the West Ham fans singing about Zouma battering cats whilst punching an inflatable cat up into the air just typifies that disgusting club.
Absolute scum.
I can't say for sure, but I was under the impression that the "he plays at centreback, he kicks his fecking cat" chant was not meant to be affectionate.
To be fair, both the Watford and West Ham fans booed him heavily in this game.
Say what you like about the English, but we are a nation of animal lovers. Zouma will get booed in every stadium he plays in this season and rightly so.
What do you call prejudice based on skin colour/ethnicity/religion?
I'm not sure what you're going with this, mate, but prejudice and racism aren't the same thing. Prejudice is a preconceived opinion of a person based on their location on the planet, whereas racism is more equated to traits often associated with people of particular skin colour.
Souness made a statement based on his Argentian background, therefore it's prejudice not racism.
At what point do people accept he’s been punished and is free to play?
He will be booed the rest of his career. Football fans are relentless.
Links?
I'm not entirely sure now I think about it, but you could be right.
The only thing I am sure of is that Souness is an idiot of immense proportions. Whether he's a racist or a xenophobic idiot is open to debate
I get that but people want further punishment and West Ham to basically end his season.
How was he punished? He wasn't banned from any games, they took what a week or two wages off him?
If I was that way inclined, a punishment like that wouldn't stop me doing it again.
No he didn't.
What is the precedent for match bans involving animal abuse? He got £250k fine and lost an endorsement deal and it seems no further action will be taken. If he even thinks about doing that again he must be one thick and callous cnut.
I'm not sure if there is a precedent. West ham had the opportunity to see one, be tough, but fair if he's genuinely remorseful and they fecked up.
They put their season ahead of anything else.
Shame the mods haven't deleted all the non relevant posts.
When the RSPCA/Essex police complete their invesatigation and the FA charge him for bringing the game into disrepute.
I think the embarrassment of it going public and the response it got would be enough for most people to not want to do it again. If Zouma somehow got caught again, then he isn't ignorant, or had a bad day, or whatever...he's psychotic.
This is fecking vile.