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Kurt Zouma / 180 hours community service + banned from keeping cats for 5 years
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
You've never heard the saying?
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/di...ay-break-my-bones-but-words-can-never-hurt-me
I'm talking about actual punishment, such as fines and losing sponsorships not the overall opinion of the general population.
There's a few people making claims in this thread that I would be wary of with the UK's libel laws.
facts. He should never touch an animal again and should donate lots of cash to animal welfare charity, do some courses then we move on.
It has nothing to do with how much is being said and everything to do with the content of what was said, however little.
In the initial days, the utd player was very broadly condemned, at least going by comments here on this site. The outrage to Zouma's actions appears to be at a similar level of indignation.
The point, then, is that it doesn't make sense to be as outraged by alleged violent sexual assault as by kicking a cat -- bearing in mind too, that the cat does not appear to have been hurt so the kick wasn't particularly vicious as compared to allegedly leaving visible bruises on a young woman.
If you can accept this, then you can accept or at least see the argument that the reactions calling for jail time, sacking, etc, are over the top when this specific incident is viewed in comparison to other instances of bad behaviour.
Why did Antonio bring racism into the discussion at all? He asked the reporter if animal abuse was worse than racism, as if the answer is meant to be an obvious no. Is the answer an obvious no? Is being racist worse than abusing animals?
Suarez had another biting incident around 5/6 years ago.
I remember Terry facing problems with sponsors when he had his affair, Suarez lost his sponsor with a gambling firm after his biting, he also received a ban from playing.
That's not what he said though, he was making more of a point to the reactions to both incidents.
You can't be surprised.
That’s my view on it.
But you're also ignoring actual punishments like being banned for games. Suarez got banned for 8 matches, but you only reference his smaller fine than Zouma. Cavani got banned for 3, but you only deem relevant that he didn't lose sponsorship, etc. It's selective punishments you're talking about. Not all of them.
I find it all extremely odd, my thought process was nearly *he’s suffered racism so it excuses him abusing his cat*.
Who knew thinking that booting a cat across your kitchen for laughs could be such a controversial opinion. What a world 
That’s what I meant by “sticks and stones” - I’d rather be called a bad name than be kicked across the kitchen and punched. Ideally neither of course and then there’s the whole argument of whether animal lives are worth less than human, but our dog is definitely as much a part of the family as the rest of us!
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/di...ay-break-my-bones-but-words-can-never-hurt-me
Not sure there have been mass demonstrations on the street regarding Kurt Zouma kicking his cat. There have been widespread condemnation of any racism incidents.
100%
Exactly. They are both despicable.
Is a thought an opinion ?Who knew thinking that booting a cat across your kitchen for laughs could be such a controversial opinion. What a world
Probably because he's been the victim of racist abuse many, many times and the press never gave a shit. Zouma kicks a cat and the same press goes mental. It must be incredibly frustrating to see the feigned outrage from the media.
What?
Then surely the press need to change their attitudes.
1. That was after the second repeated incident of it and it was not one of his major sponsorships.
2. John Terry was rumoured to risk losing sponsors after his affair but never actually did. Comparing to the way Tiger Woods was treated it's not even comparable.
He obviously sees it differently, and being a victim of racism himself I wouldn't be quick to dismiss his view.
The only person I feel sorry for here is the cat.
Wow, what an OG by West Ham by not suspending him. Both sponsors said that they decided to cancel a deal after they saw shit WH's reaction about it.
Now domino effect will start probably. Other sponsors will be under pressure to quit too.
Now domino effect will start probably. Other sponsors will be under pressure to quit too.
Then they have to bring more stringent punishments for racism. Social media companies have help fuel a lot of this. They should also be held culpable. A lot of punishments here are far too lenient.
Fair play to Antonio, it worked. We're now talking about racism.
It's actually not.
Calls for Zouma to be sacked, he is someone who has been the victim of racist abuse, and he is pointing out the clear double standard.
Hes not saying what Zouma did isn't wrong, he is saying the reaction to what Zouma has done is far and above anything there has been for racism in football.
It is kind of ironic that we had a campaign against racism called Kick It Out, but those who committed it weren't kicked out. Go figure.
Isn't that his point?
Why did I not know that Zouma is an ambassador for a big cat animal charity? Mind boggling.
But he hasn't been, has he? So, again, I'm not sure of your point. You'll get every opinion under the sun on the internet...what matters is whats actually happened. And he's not banned.There have been calls for it
What an odd thread, there's outrage about lack of outrage, and then there's outrage about excessive outrage.
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
I'm fairly sure he's never been the victim of animal cruelty though, so how can he judge what's worse?
Football definitely needs to take a stronger stance on racism. It might actually have to come down to shutting a ground. The clubs would then do something about it. At the moment they just release statement after statement about not condoning racism. They are your fans weed them out.
How would a human be a victim of animal cruelty? Think before you post.
Why don’t the FA step in and suspend him?