He also was trhowing some shoes that didn't hit as the cat was running terrified, there was nothing gentle about it and like you said cats are small animals and Zouma is a grown ass footballer. Perhaps the cat didn't sustain any serious injuries from that but it's something concerning that a pet gets that treatment from it's owner with his children involved. It can become something normalized for them and things can escalate from there. It was something good the cats were removed but I found super disturbing how he was laughing and having fun with all that, sick bastard.
Kurt Zouma / 180 hours community service + banned from keeping cats for 5 years
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He also was trhowing some shoes that didn't hit as the cat was running terrified, there was nothing gentle about it and like you said cats are small animals and Zouma is a grown ass footballer. Perhaps the cat didn't sustain any serious injuries from that but it's something concerning that a pet gets that treatment from it's owner with his children involved. It can become something normalized for them and things can escalate from there. It was something good the cats were removed but I found super disturbing how he was laughing and having fun with all that, sick bastard.
I agree with this. If there’s one thing the past couple weeks (Greenwood, Mendy, Zouma, Overmars, Avram Grant) have shown us is that footballers and people around football are far too insulated from the consequences of their actions, often because they have a legion of fans who will defend them because they like what they do on the field.
I really hope you don’t own a pet.
I haven’t said otherwise, but the reality is people do worse to their pets, unfortunately.
I’m not defending Zouma but I wouldn’t put the mistreatment in the “extreme” category that the headlines had me believing it would be
This smacks of trying to find a distinction between casual racism & racism.
I disagree but I respect your candour
So he’s lost his cats, his sponsorship and 2 weeks wages. Now somebody ought to think about taking his kids too for teaching them it’s okay to be abhorrent little animal abusers.
Before watching the video I thought this would be another outrage for nothing.
I just watched the video
What the f*ck wat that. That was sick, totally disturbing.
This was pure animal torture my stomach turned watching that. Poor cat.
I just watched the video
What the f*ck wat that. That was sick, totally disturbing.
This was pure animal torture my stomach turned watching that. Poor cat.
But it wasn’t extreme, apparently.
And the guy is so proud he can torture a cat ... that posts the video on the internet??? Unbelievable!
He didn't post it.
Loving all the punishments coming his way.
Read somewhere he can be convicted in France for this act as it is possible to charge citizens even if theyre living abroad.
Read somewhere he can be convicted in France for this act as it is possible to charge citizens even if theyre living abroad.
Have a word with yourself
Could face up to five years in prison and €75.000 if convicted, if i've correctly understood the french laws on animal cruelty.
Glad the cats have been removed - the moron would likely be blaming the one he kicked for all the grief he's had.
And whilst I never rated Moyes as a United manager, I did quite like him as a person. Not any more. Are West Ham really such a one man team that they couldn't do without him - is he even that good? Absolutely disgusting behaviour from Moyes, the board and any players who accepted that decision.
I hope they don't win another game this season.
And whilst I never rated Moyes as a United manager, I did quite like him as a person. Not any more. Are West Ham really such a one man team that they couldn't do without him - is he even that good? Absolutely disgusting behaviour from Moyes, the board and any players who accepted that decision.
I hope they don't win another game this season.
I guess Moyes now deeply regrets playing him. He’s shown the club in a very poor light, also caused the loss of an important sponsor.
Very much doubt the feckwit would dare play Zouma next game.
This is the vibe I'm seeing from black UK twitter.
Didn’t you run over your neighbours cat ages ago?
No wonder you were expecting worse given your own track record in this field.
Damage done though, don't you think?
People making light of it and saying it's an over-reaction are being short sighted. Anyone who can hurt a defenceless animal, is not too far away from hurting a human being.
Animal abuse is worse than racism and assaulting people?
Mental vs physical abuse.
Very much agree.
There‘s something very sadistic about Zouma‘s cruelty. Makes me wonder what else does he get pleasure from?
Assaulting people
. I’m sure Chiellini can’t sleep at night, poor guy must be traumatized. I’d rather Suarez bite me than zouma kick my cat, or any cat.Oh.... Who posted it then? His friends? Why did they post it?
This is such an overreaction.Have I missed something or do we not still live in a society that's willing to slaughter animals because they taste good?
Should Moyes only start vegans in his team?
Zuma is a frog.
what a horrible post. So you endorse animal abuse. wake the feck up and get some morals.
Have I missed something or do we not still live in a society that's willing to slaughter animals because they taste good?
Should Moyes only start vegans in his team?
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We really never know how a person is.
If he was a 5 year old doing this, understandable, but a grown ass person doing this, is totally unacceptable.
And this isn't an animal rights, vegan or whatever discussion. This is a simple decency a mature human being should have, that you do not attack anyone physically unless you are being attacked.
If he was a 5 year old doing this, understandable, but a grown ass person doing this, is totally unacceptable.
And this isn't an animal rights, vegan or whatever discussion. This is a simple decency a mature human being should have, that you do not attack anyone physically unless you are being attacked.
I love it when people bring out "You eat processed meats everyday, don't be a hypocrite about abusing animals". Indeed that makes perfect sense doesn't it? of course eating processed meats that are already in the form of cooked foods is the same as actually kicking a living being that is capable of feeling pain? Here's a little breaking news for you: it's worlds apart. Eating processed meats requires you to be hungry or in need of animal protein. Kicking a living animal that will scream/struggle if you abuse them requires some degree of psychopath tendencies, you need to be heartless in order to do that. If you take a look at most murderer documentaries you can see how almost all of them had a history of abusing living animal and torturing them, NOT SPENDING THEIR LIVES EATING KFC.
Stop comparing the two. They're not remotely close. Also why bring up racism to this? they're both wrong, just because one is not as important as human doesn't mean it's right to abuse a living (this is the key point) cat.
And before anyone says "eating meat is supporting animal slaughters". Yes to a certain extent BUT eating processed meats is not the same as actually physically killing the animal. If you want to compare animal abuse with people whose job actually to slaughter a living animal then it's more fair but to compare animal abuse with eating fish and chips? you're silly.
Stop comparing the two. They're not remotely close. Also why bring up racism to this? they're both wrong, just because one is not as important as human doesn't mean it's right to abuse a living (this is the key point) cat.
And before anyone says "eating meat is supporting animal slaughters". Yes to a certain extent BUT eating processed meats is not the same as actually physically killing the animal. If you want to compare animal abuse with people whose job actually to slaughter a living animal then it's more fair but to compare animal abuse with eating fish and chips? you're silly.
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I mean I live with cat and I treat him with love and respect. It astounds me that people in this thread have pretty much endorsed the abuse and say it isn't that bad. I worry for the human race. Whether its a human being or an animal you live with you don't freaking abuse it. Some people need to have some freaking morals drilled into them.
It is all about consent in human beings, like me and my best friend we do kick and punch each other like anything (yes I know it is childish as I am nearing 30
). But we will never get an explanation from the cat, like if the cat verbally gave consent that "yes me and Zouma are mates, I bite and scrath him, he kicks and throws me around, you guys don't judge our relationship you judgemental hypocritical prick".I mean when it is about humans, it is understandable if both parties have that kind of relationship, but with an animal who cannot communicate, it is such a weird argument to put forward
What on earth? Completely off the mark.
Have I missed something or do we not still live in a society that's willing to slaughter animals because they taste good?
Should Moyes only start vegans in his team?
Another thing is humans can defend themselves somewhat. In comparision, an animal like a domestic cat can't. And your 100% right that cats can't communicate with you. Henry which is the cat I live with can't say to me no kicking me is fine. I just don't get the reason why a grown adult would abuse an animal and even take pleasure in it. I mean if your friend did something bad like sleep with your girlfriend then yeah I somewhat get it. But a freaking cat does nothing and there isn't an excuse to abuse it.It is all about consent in human beings, like me and my best friend we do kick and punch each other like anything (yes I know it is childish as I am nearing 30
I mean when it is about humans, it is understandable if both parties have that kind of relationship, but with an animal who cannot communicate, it is such a weird argument to put forward
I have read this thread and some of the comments like the one you replied to are insulting. Would be nice if the mods could do something.
This is not a thread which shows Caf in good light. But it just reflects society in general. People without "pets" will never understand love and bond which people who have "pets", have with them. They are not pets for us. They are family members for who we will do everything.
"Just a little kick", "you eat meat", "little fine and that is it".......pathetic posts from some of you.
Edit: when my daughter was born, some people around me asked me dead serious; "Will you now throw out your cats?". Like they are some things who you just throw in trash. That is our society
"Just a little kick", "you eat meat", "little fine and that is it".......pathetic posts from some of you.
Edit: when my daughter was born, some people around me asked me dead serious; "Will you now throw out your cats?". Like they are some things who you just throw in trash. That is our society
I did indeed
And I’ve also been in jobs where I’ve experienced the aftermath of extreme animal abuse, so my mind drifted to a worse scene when I saw the headlines.
No I don't but I can see the forest from the trees.
Tucking into a steak is far worse than what Zouma did.