Kurt Zouma / 180 hours community service + banned from keeping cats for 5 years
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
Awesome. Fine/jail/community service, groveling apology and we can all move on to the next outrage subject
I could not agree more. If I could I would give this a million likes and make you king of the Caf.
Harsh on the cat! Purrr...
I can't bring myself to watch the videos of this, but I am relieved to hear the cats were taken off him. Criminal charges next hopefully.
Nice one,makes West Ham look like a bigger bunch of cnuts for not doing anything.
His crimes are on camera, so when does he get prosecuted? The maximum sentence is 5 years for such a crime.
Calm down.
Rich people only pay fines for these sorts of crimes.
I haven't checked on this thread since yesterday and reading the last 5 or so pages has basically descended to twitter/youtube comment levels.
I still don't understand the eating meat debate...
So if I'm at home, eating my chicken salad and see my neighbor kicking the shit out of his cat in the garden... I'm not allowed to intervene because I'm eating a chicken salad?
Have I got that right?
feck this... I'm not coming back in this thread, I can have a more meaningful debate with my 1 year old
.Like paying for a hit
there is a "nugget" of truth? What kind of nugget? is it meat or meat substitute
What if he plans to eat it at a later date? Some farmers develop a relationship with their livestock, sometimes emotional, often physical. Its 2 sides of the same coin. When in Jamaica, our puppy died and my grandma just tossed it into the bushes. Another elderly woman had live kittens she didn't want and put them into a plastic bag and threw them into the sea (whilst alive). this was in Jamaica too. Different cultures
Now let’s hope the cats find better owners soon.
A good friend of mine recently got a cat. The little guy was saved from a terrible hoarding situation. For the first six years of his life, all that small creature knew was violence. He was kicked regularly. Now ever since he’s with my friend, he’s slowly coming more and more out of his shell. But you can tell that this cat was mistreated and abused. You can tell by the way he moves, his reactions towards strangers (especially men) and so on. They are very smart and sensible creatures. If you’re not going to treat them well, leave them alone. That’s the least you could do.
A good friend of mine recently got a cat. The little guy was saved from a terrible hoarding situation. For the first six years of his life, all that small creature knew was violence. He was kicked regularly. Now ever since he’s with my friend, he’s slowly coming more and more out of his shell. But you can tell that this cat was mistreated and abused. You can tell by the way he moves, his reactions towards strangers (especially men) and so on. They are very smart and sensible creatures. If you’re not going to treat them well, leave them alone. That’s the least you could do.
They keep it on a shelf??
It's ok to say that you don't know mate.
Western society loves pets more than they do poor or black people. Take his cats away and give him a fine. Anything else is overkill.
Great post and very sensible!
What the feck are you on about
Yip, just look at Marcos Alonso.
Your comment is idiotic.What the feck are you on about
I think judging by the reaction on here and in the wider public most people clearly do care about animal abuse. What most people don't care about is the whataboutism being brought up about the meat industry. I know its awful which is why I've all but cut meat out but what is the point of bringing this up when we really are just standing up for an innocent cat being abused.
So many idiotic comments on this thread it beggars belief.
Animal cruelty by a society that eats animals worse than a system of oppression based on an immutable characteristic?
Varying levels of racism is what you are trying to justify? Do you not understand that this is how it all starts? From a simple word to discrimination of a whole ethnic group? That’s why many condemn what you might refer to as just a word. Animal cruelty is not comparable no matter what. You consistent defense of this says a lot about you. You don’t ever need to bring up racism when discussing animal cruelty. They are both separate is my argument.
Your comment makes absolutely zero sense but you've clearly performed all sorts of mental gymnastics to try and find offence when there isn't any. Racism is bad, animal abuse is bad. The FA have shown themselves up to be absolute clowns when it comes to "racist" incidents where they have punished players for even the most minor, non-racist acts. Here we have animal abuse right in front of our eyes (not some look-alike word) and yet the FA does nothing. Right here is case in point why institutions should be careful with the rules they establish and the precedents they set. By charging Cavani with an outrageous "racist" claim the FA have tarnished their entire reputation and now people want real justice for real issues. Don't confuse anger at the FA over this incident as comparing animal abuse and racism more generally, that ignores all the context.
I care about the meat industry in general, not in a thread about Zouma kicking a cat though because they are unrelated. Oh, btw I also hate Hitler and the nazis while we are bringing up random things we dislike.
How can you care about one and not about the other?
the way that’s worded makes it sound like the cats did something wrong. no wonder so many of them struggle to speak out about their abuse.
Welcome to the madhouse!
This story isnt going away I don't think. West Ham will soon have to act and do something. I suspect a fine/ban will suffice which I think is fair overall.
This is depressingly true. Nothing wrong with the outrage, just wish some people kept this same energy when it comes to other injustices in life.
95% of us eat pets?
You dont eat anything living do you? Where do you draw the line? Do you take vaccines?
Yep cats taken away, fine and a ban is punishment enough I think.
So you're 100% vegan then I assume? Good on you. Must be near impossible to untangle yourself from the Web of cruelty that is our current modern supply lines mind, I applaud you finding a way.
Personally, I don't see the world as being entirely black and white, and while I do eat meat occasionally, I also keep chickens of my own for all of my eggs, and do my best to source ethically sourced meat wherever possible.
I also, crazy as it sounds, call a grown man booting shite out of a pet cat a cnut, because that's what he is. How my brain copes with the hypocrisy without imploding I'll never know ..
Honestly, I'd expect a more nuanced take from my 4 year old nephew.
They won't ban their best defender for 3 games with CL qualification on the line. What would the point be? Why 3 games? Why not sack him? No club is hamstringing themselves like that.
If you want a ban, you'd have to look to the FA.
Fined £250k
I'd be happy with a ban on owning any pets for the rest of his days in England.