No team is paying 70m for him and giving him 180k a week.
Kobbie Mainoo (out)
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He will sign a new deal at Amad’s weekly wage. This is all theatrics and negotiation thru media.
No idea what will happen, but bit silly to dismiss reports as nonsense because people want them to be nonsense. The reaction in his performance thread last week when the Mail reported he wanted 180k was more denial. Every Tom Dick and Harry being called an idiot for even discussing it because it ‘obviously isn’t true’.
For all our attachment to academy players, you don’t know him or his motivations. As for the player himself, he’s a huge talent, but he’s not a huge talent in this formation that we are playing. To be fair, not too many are.
For all our attachment to academy players, you don’t know him or his motivations. As for the player himself, he’s a huge talent, but he’s not a huge talent in this formation that we are playing. To be fair, not too many are.
Probably and he's not happy with that I can't see the club caving given his performances this year. There's absolutely no way he should get, or expect to get, more than Amad. He really should be on a bit less. He's not exactly negotiating from a position of strength.
You should have sold Garnacho and you should sell Mainoo too. Rinse Chelsea, Spurs or whoever is dumb enough to give you 60M+ for them. You'd be better off in the long run getting 3 or 4 30/40M players for Amorim like Dorgu.
Agree, I really like Mainoo,but for all his effectiveness he does not score goals as a 10 and in midfield too static.
They'd both probably improve Arsrnal tbh and you're dumb enough, Havertz, Jesus, Zinchenko.
The fact that we will potentially get 70 million for Mainoo and it could cost us 13 million to sack Amorim probably makes that decision and easy one for Ratcliffe and the Glazers.
Well, I am all for bargaining. But if his expectations are too high, let's sell him and look for younger, cheaper, more hardworking talents.
I am starting to feel there is some legs to it. We know that Ineos were prepared to sell Garnacho in the winter window if the price was right, and suspect they will view Mainoo similarly.
From Mainoo's perspective, his agent is probably in his ear and telling him about the money that can be made with a transfer etc and that Man Utd are not going to be in CL anytime soon (meaning less pay).
From Mainoo's perspective, his agent is probably in his ear and telling him about the money that can be made with a transfer etc and that Man Utd are not going to be in CL anytime soon (meaning less pay).
If we pay another young player wages that established stars at other clubs earn then we have learnt nothing. Clearly his agent is trying to get his own commission from this huge contract.
Any new contract needs to be heavily performance based. If he's expecting 180k a week now then I'd sell him. He's not earned it yet, sorry.
The only club stupid enough to do that would've been United during the Woodward/Arnold era
A WC established CM will demand 300k+. I am referring to the likes of Bellingham and Musiala. There aren't many of those for obvious reasons. The 200k mark would put him at par to the likes of Pedri and Palhinha and above the likes of Gavi, Joao Neves, Mac Callister, Caicedo and Gravenberch
180K-200k is huge huge salary. Liverpool have just 3 players who reach the 180k barrier (Trent, Van Dijk and Salah), Chelsea has 4 (James, Fofana, Nkunku and Enzo Fernandez), Inter has 2 (Barella and Martinez) and Juventus has 1 (Vlahovic). Is Mainoo worth that money?
150k would put him with the likes of Caicedo, Joao Neves, Gavi and Gravenberch. Is he as good? Let's not forget that Mainoo is still 19. He's got at least 4 other contract renewals left in him and he'll be asking for a raise every single time.
I believe that United need to start identify bad apples long before they rot. We failed to do that with the likes of Rashford and Lingard and we know what that got us. Mainoo is showing signs of greediness while Garnacho has disciplinary issues. We're better sell them now before people notice what they are and their price plummet.
Yeah I'd be happy with something in that range. Really hope he doesn't leave this summer.
There is no way to justify the reported wage demand or anything over 100k.
Amad got 100k and is 3 years older, more expensive position and role, better fitness record, and has achieved a lot more in football.
Amad got 100k and is 3 years older, more expensive position and role, better fitness record, and has achieved a lot more in football.
Really??
Barely, but not just injuries. Also just their capability to finish 90 mins of football.
Injuries aside Amad is a much much fitter player while Mainoo is always dead on his feet after 50 minutes. And in this league that obviously counts massively to their value.
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Isn't his brother a bit of a twat? Maybe Kobbie is too, living in lala land.
Gotta say, not loving all this from his 'camp'. Most of the best bits of Kobbie were about how grounded he was, local lad etc etc. That smoothed over the rough edges of his game.
He's a central midfielder that can't play 90 minutes. That's a pretty big problem. Certainly a large enough risk that you're not going to put him into the 'top earners' at 19.
How many genuinely great games has he had for us? 10? 5?
I think INEOS deserve all the hate they're getting with regards to any unnecessary staff cuts, but a football team's single most important operating metric is wages, and so far INEOS have shown an acute awareness of this. Kobbie is more than welcome to stay at his boyhood club, prove he can be a first XI player in an improving side at a wage that would make almost any other human being blush to have it mentioned. And if that doesn't work, he can leave in 3/4 years time when he's still well ahead of his prime.
He's a central midfielder that can't play 90 minutes. That's a pretty big problem. Certainly a large enough risk that you're not going to put him into the 'top earners' at 19.
How many genuinely great games has he had for us? 10? 5?
I think INEOS deserve all the hate they're getting with regards to any unnecessary staff cuts, but a football team's single most important operating metric is wages, and so far INEOS have shown an acute awareness of this. Kobbie is more than welcome to stay at his boyhood club, prove he can be a first XI player in an improving side at a wage that would make almost any other human being blush to have it mentioned. And if that doesn't work, he can leave in 3/4 years time when he's still well ahead of his prime.
I don't why the club are entertaining contract talks at this point. He had a great breakthrough season and this season he has struggled with injuries and the new system, not out of the ordinary for such a young player. If the club up his salary now and he continues his current trajectory, they will stuck with another player on high wages that they will struggle to sell. This discussion should be left until next year where he will still have two years left on his contract. At that stage hopefully he will deserve a bump in wages.
I can see PSG offering him 100/120k a week
I absolutely love Kobbie and think he's a fantastic footballer but he's still got a lot to learn and develop physically before he can start making demands. I hope it is just attempting to get the best possible deal whilst knowing himself that he'll sign a contract whatever it ends up being. He's got time.
Can't be easy for young lads being at United at this time though. The fabric of the club is being ripped out, academy players that have come through in recent years have benefitted from leaving and some have left on bad terms.
Who in the squad do you look at now as an academy inspiration as a young player?
Think I just made myself sad thinking about that.
Can't be easy for young lads being at United at this time though. The fabric of the club is being ripped out, academy players that have come through in recent years have benefitted from leaving and some have left on bad terms.
Who in the squad do you look at now as an academy inspiration as a young player?
Think I just made myself sad thinking about that.
Yeah outside of possibly a couple of posters, I don't see the hate and anger. Just seems like common sense not wanting to budge at 180k - if those reports are true. Hoping we find a compromise within the 80k-120k range or so.
We will too.
Games playing obviously, tedious shite of the modern era. Don't think he's going anywhere, he'll sign a new deal, and it'll probably be for too much.
He's not but he's also not worth 180k a week. There's a problem with his own attitude if he's sticking out for that after 9 months of form. Ferguson didn't entertain stupid demands from young players, Pogba was not the exact same situation but not dissimilar as an academy product asking for a big sum.
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I was under the impression he signed a new contract not to long ago.
Don’t really believe the media but I’m sure he’s looking for more like £150k per week on a 5 year contract, Chelsea won’t pay more than £100-120k and can’t seeing him starting on current form in their midfield.
Kobbie is a wonderful talent in a 433 system where’s he’s the 8/10 hybrid that can get on the ball, he’s so similar to Xavi type player that should Xavi become our coach then I’m positive he would develop into a world beater!
I’m not sure he fits an Amorim system unless he’s developed as a pure 10/SS but losing Kobbie would be stupid when we are not sure the coach 100% will work?
This one’s simple, he’s under contract to 2027 with a plus 1, just let things stay the same for 6 months then the club can make a decision next January 2026.
I agree that no one is offering him £180k per week and paying £70m transfer fee we would want after his performances this season!
I think he is being very greedy, what happened to academy graduates being loyal to the club and always being happy to extend on reasonable wages. I am not saying take advantage of that and offer him 40k or something, he deserves around 80k to 100k but that's the maximum, if he performs very well for next two season you can renegotiate the wages to 150k, but 180k for him is outrageous, it means his next contract will be 250k to 300k.
Now its time to put the foot down by the club and right the wrongs of past, where we have a wage bill of top PL & CPL team, whereas performances are of mid table Europa league team.
Now its time to put the foot down by the club and right the wrongs of past, where we have a wage bill of top PL & CPL team, whereas performances are of mid table Europa league team.
He's not really shown much more to suggest he's miles better either. He's still barely played.
Sins of the brother and all that.
Just bear in mind that none of us actually know anything. We feed off second hand reports and scraps that are to be taken with a grain of salt because everyone has their own agenda/narrative.
Stop acting like everything that's posted online is some factual insight from the club. Lots of speculation, lots of posturing and journos are after clicks and engagement, not making sure the truth is out there.
You have absolutely no idea if he's 'greedy' or any of his other motivations.
People really will form an entire opinion about someone they've never met or spoken to because of a tweet they've read. It's crazy.
What would be the metric for Mainoo? He doesn't score goals, doesnt really create them, how would that even be judged?
Could be appearances and/or team performance like league position or something.
Not saying I agree with it though. I’d much rather we just gave him a normal contract at a salary he deserves considering his achievements and potential.
Could just be as simple as game time. If he's fit and starting every week then he's probably at a level.
He's probably closer to Tom Cleverley than most here think. Maybe worse because he has less movement.
Heaven I would keep.