Musiala is far more established. Endrick signed for 80k a week. If I'm not mistaken if we consider say Martinelli, he was given a new deal at £150k a week for Arsenal after playing for them for a couple of seasons.I think you'll find that other players in the same general predicament as Mainoo - namely the likes of Musiala, Endrick et al., are all going to command much more given their long term potential. He won't want to get locked into a long term low wage contract at a time when he sees Rashford, Bellingham, and others making far more. That's just going to happen, which is why i suspect he's more inclined to move this summer. That last thing he will want is to be trapped in a long term deal such as the likes of Gavi or Pedri until 2030 on a weekly wage he's not happy with, relative to what others are earning.
If he does start to actually show that, then sure. The Guardian headline seems to suggest otherwise, but others reporting this story seem to suggest he actually wants to stay, it's just getting that wage he desires.
Then he didn't get the memo about the club will no longer be handing out contracts like Casemiro's and Mount's.I don't blame him asking that kind of money, he looks at someone like Mount, an average player that earns 250k per week and not even kicking a ball and must think to himself (I should be on more money than him).
But, we have to move away from these types of deals.
Then he didn't get the memo about the club will no longer be handing out contracts like Casemiro's and Mount's.
Those were established players who were first teamers in successful sides who won Liga titles and CL titles. What did Mainoo do exactly? Few months of good football followed by....?
What does this even mean? We ("the market") were willing to pay Sancho, Rashford, Casemiro obscene wages.
A winner in a cup final. Fairly memorably.
few months of good football including a winner in some random cup only Brits rate.
100% agree.Anyone knocking the door with ridiculous demands should be sold
Gavi is on 149k a week and Joao Neves is on 145k a week. At the 180k-200k bracket you'll find the likes of Camavinga and Pedri. I very much doubt that these sort of clubs would give that salary to a kid who had few months of good football in him
He's 19, he can always plan to run his contract down at whatever club he goes to and come back here if we figure our shit out by then. It doesn't make somebody not a supporter of the club to look leave when we are an absolute disaster. I'm sure he'd want nothing more than to stay here long term. But at the expense of your own career? The failure of the past 10 years and the toxic atmosphere around the club 100% will have effects like this and I don't blame any of the players for wanting to look after themselves. It's easy to be a one club player and play for your dream club when your club is winning your whole career like it was under Sir Alex. It's definitely not easy to do it when the club is where we are currently at, even pushing out the home grown players because of the FFP bullshit.A smart move to leave his dream club at the first sign of strife. Right.
His agent has already shown himself to be a bit of a chancery, if the £200k pw stories are real.Well if these stories are true then the genie is a bit out of the bottle at this point. It's about time that we start acting as a proper club. If a player/agent start leaking this sort of rubbish then he should be at the door.
Looking forward to the summer.
It might be utter carnage in the transfer market in terms of ins and outs but it really needs to be done.
Club needs a total reset and a fresh start.
Anyone that is good enough and wants to stay is fine, literally anyone else can leave.
Especially as our current manager doesn't seem to rate him as much as Ten Hag did - maybe in his "desired" position. I wouldn't blame him if he wanted a big fecking contract to stay at this current shit show or hell move, he won't be short of suitors.He's 19, he can always plan to run his contract down at whatever club he goes to and come back here if we figure our shit out by then. It doesn't make somebody not a supporter of the club to look leave when we are an absolute disaster. I'm sure he'd want nothing more than to stay here long term. But at the expense of your own career? The failure of the past 10 years and the toxic atmosphere around the club 100% will have effects like this and I don't blame any of the players for wanting to look after themselves. It's easy to be a one club player and play for your dream club when your club is winning your whole career like it was under Sir Alex. It's definitely not easy to do it when the club is where we are currently at, even pushing out the home grown players because of the FFP bullshit.
We'll come back. It will just take more time than we thought or hope. Like you say, the only players we can truly make decent money on will be the actual players who are worth keeping. It's going to take a while to do this transition where we get rid of the worthwhile talents, struggle to get rid of the dead wood, wait for their contracts to expire, become a regular bottom half team and then slow rebuild by bringing in better and better talent to work our way up again before we are at a good point with the talent & the finances. That doesn't seem like a 1-2 year process. More like a 5 year process IMO, because it takes time to tear it down before it can be rebuilt.Yeah but we know that won’t happen. We’ll sell the likes of Mainoo and possibly Garnacho whilst the likes of Casemiro and the rest of high rollers are still clinging to the club
There’s no way back for this club. The debt is too much and 12 years of reckless spending have left us absolutely fecked, we’ll be selling our better players to rival teams in the coming seasons.
Yeah. It's just called looking after yourself. No matter how much you love the club, his advisors really should be looking for his own interests and what will give him the best career as a footballer. And that absolutely is fecking off and growing elsewhere while the shit show works itself out here.Especially as our current manager doesn't seem to rate him as much as Ten Hag did - maybe in his "desired" position. I wouldn't blame him if he wanted a big fecking contract to stay at this current shit show or hell move, he won't be short of suitors.
We've also shown we bring players back for big money in the past. Id love him to be a success here, but it seems like bad timing for him and us with Amorim. I think if Ten Hag was still here, we'd have more chance of keeping him. It's funny how we were told he would have broken through and been good under any manager, but he's looked like a shade of himself under this one.Yeah. It's just called looking after yourself. No matter how much you love the club, his advisors really should be looking for his own interests and what will give him the best career as a footballer. And that absolutely is fecking off and growing elsewhere while the shit show works itself out here.
Get rid.
Overhyped massively, too slow for Amorim's style of play.
Have to agree. It may be the correct decision long term, but stings a bit right now when they were pretty much our only hopes last season.He was great for Ten Hags system but doesn't work for Amorims.
If the club decided to hire a manager that didn't want to build a system around two of its best young players (Mainoo and Garnacho), then it's on the club.
If the club are prioritising Amorim over Mainoo or Garnacho then you may aswell sell them and make some money for suitable players for the system.
If they end up selling these two and still sacking Amorim in the future then the club's double fecked. As the next managers system might have been perfect for Mainoo and Garnacho.
The club already made the decision when they hired a manager that wanted to play 3421.
Musiala is far more established. Endrick signed for 80k a week. If I'm not mistaken if we consider say Martinelli, he was given a new deal at £150k a week for Arsenal after playing for them for a couple of seasons.
In no world is it reasonable to demand £180k a week from less than one season of football in your playing career. That is a massive problem and quite an unreasonable demand for both our standards and for rivals.
Any evidence of this, you might be right as I hadn't thought it would have come from his side?Well no, it'll be lead by him. He'll be going to the club demanding a higher wage, not us wanting to tie him down longer (although we'll be in a position to react to ensure that, if we do want to keep him)
So when people overpay (in hindsight) it's not part of "the market"?
Of course it’s a big if but if the Glazers leave anytime soon, things will slowly but surely be on the up thereafter until United start competing again.Yeah but we know that won’t happen. We’ll sell the likes of Mainoo and possibly Garnacho whilst the likes of Casemiro and the rest of high rollers are still clinging to the club
There’s no way back for this club. The debt is too much and 12 years of reckless spending have left us absolutely fecked, we’ll be selling our better players to rival teams in the coming seasons.
He is nowhere near any if them at the moment. They are all better than him at the moment.
No the disgrace would be bowing to those rumoured/reported wage demands, paying someone of his limited achievements £180k a week.... Rashford all over again. But Rashford had achieved more in the game than Kobbie when he got his £200k contract.
Even demanding £120k a week would be outrageous, 19 and not even played a full season yet, questionable fitness and injury record.
yeah but whilst you’re there, just remember that mainoo has demanded 180k a minute to play for us, and then wants to use the money to install a spa and indoor swimming pool, to build the “kobbie mainoo experience.”Ok it's like that is it. Luckily pub time.
