I wouldn’t call him an established international. Hes likely at risk of not making the next few squads unless his form changes
Kobbie Mainoo (out)
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I wouldn’t call him an established international. Hes likely at risk of not making the next few squads unless his form changes
3 years remaining in his contract. Unless a suitable offer comes in, he isn't leaving anywhere .
Agree with you, mate. This is sad reading.
The fact that so many are in favour of selling both Mainoo & Garnacho in order to fund the Amomin ‘project’ blows my mind.
Might as well go the full 9 yards and sell Yoro while we’re at it too. Really rid the squad of any of the young exciting talent we have left.
Nothing but negotiations going on here.
People need to relax.
I for one am for it. About time the club stopped getting fleeced by agents and stop handing 180k contracts to every player who has half a good season.
People need to relax.
I for one am for it. About time the club stopped getting fleeced by agents and stop handing 180k contracts to every player who has half a good season.
I agree. Our history is built on top talents from the academy. Seems strange that this ‘leak’ has come out. Wouldn’t surprise me if if the Glazers and Ratcliffe are engineering this to bring in some pure profit in the summer.
You're not making any sense - most the posts are only suggesting selling him *if* he isn't budging from 180k a week. There's no 'new' information that makes this sentiment unreasonable. You're just showing a self admitted bias because he's from our academy. We've sold from our academy throughout the PL years by the way. It doesn't make us some sellout club.
I wont be devastated if he leave specially if we get good money for him. He is injury prone and did not impress at all this season.
Absolutely right. Never seen such an entitled bunch with so little in the way of actual achievement as well. When Rooney and Ronaldo wanted out, at least you could understand. They had already given us so much and were concerned with the club's waning ambition. These brats have done feck all to be acting so entitled.
Mainoo is not a £180k a week player yet. I don't care about some England caps. He has had one actual good season. Wasn't even a full season cuz he was hurt for the first half of it. On his current body of work, nobody in Europe is paying him that much and neither should we. This nonsense is why we've struggled to shift Rashford and Sancho and all the other overpaid duds. We pay people before they've actually earned it. It needs to stop. If he wants that amount of money then he can put in more than half a good season at a mininum. Otherwise, he can go, along with all the others who want to sulk because of money. Enough is enough.
Its not so much a disgrace when you consider he's a top talent who could play for club for the next decade. He's severely underpaid by United standards and is at a club who he's sees us paying of Sancho, Rashford, and Casemiro (at least two of which Mainoo is already better than) upwards of 300k a week.
That said, we have bigger and better plans, so if we can get 50-70m for him from a club like PSG or similar, then its a no brainer so we can reinvest.
Mainoo is the sort of player United have been waiting a decade plus for. Someone that can break lines through the midfield press and create/score. He's been motm in FA Cup finals and a standout in European Champions at 18 years old. Would be the biggest loss since Pogba left for Juventus as a teenager.
I'm hoping this is just contract negotiations.
I'm hoping this is just contract negotiations.
Not saying I want him to leave, but giving out big contracts to local talent is how we got stuck with the likes of Rashford crapping it up for years. There has to be some balance in the negotiations.
So what, we should continue massively overpaying players for fear of them leaving?
Selling Kobbie is the same as selling a 21 year old Scholes.
Scholes couldn't play in a midfield 2 then either so we should have fecked him off
This is the line INEOS water carriers like muppetiers are using about Kobbie. Do me a favor. They feck off Kobbie and we are going to be something very very different from what we all fell in love with.
Scholes couldn't play in a midfield 2 then either so we should have fecked him off
This is the line INEOS water carriers like muppetiers are using about Kobbie. Do me a favor. They feck off Kobbie and we are going to be something very very different from what we all fell in love with.
Wouldn't surprise me either, something stinks and I don't like how easily fans want to give up on our top young talents in Mainoo and Garnacho. Bit by bit United are losing values and identity.
Think the most interesting thing is that there are contract discussions in spite of Mainoo having 3 years left on his contract, suggests we want to keep him long term
Threads like this have me avoiding the Caf for weeks on end to be honest.
Same for me especially with our younger talent. Under the Glazers/Woodward/Arnold we’ve been throwing out huge money and long contracts seemingly under this misguided notion that every talent from our academy will go onto a career akin to one of the Class of 92. We gave Brandon Williams £40k a week and he has been a free agent since we released him 9 months ago.
Is it a question of value or principle for you? As in, do you think £70m is too low and £180k/week is too reasonable, or would you flat out not sell him under any circumstances and pay him what he wants?Selling Kobbie is the same as selling a 21 year old Scholes.
Scholes couldn't play in a midfield 2 then either so we should have fecked him off
This is the line INEOS water carriers like muppetiers are using about Kobbie. Do me a favor. They feck off Kobbie and we are going to be something very very different from what we all fell in love with.
Because people care about the wellbeing of the club, and don't want to see us repeat past mistakes by handing out huge contracts without any regard for the consequences?
If not from Ornstein or Fabrizio I'm calling ducktales
But if we were to entertain these reports as accurate, he's not remotely worth 180k a week and this whole 'fix' on our wage structure sort of goes out the window if we give a player with <1 season's experience that kind of money. We are actually turfing out Sancho, Rashford who are on these types and actively finding suitors for Casmiro every window.
If he wants £180k per week, it's completely reasonable to sell him. Top talent is only talent until it's realized and there's a big risk to throwing that kind of money to Mainoo when the jury is still out on his consistency, long term development, fitness and attitude. Far too many unknowns in that regard.
He doesn’t deserve 180k a week. If he has 3 years left then let him prove he’s worth it in the next 18 months and then offer him that.
I really rate him and don’t think we should sell. We need to stop repeatedly overpaying for potential and instead focus on rewarding consistent performances that truly justify such wages
I really rate him and don’t think we should sell. We need to stop repeatedly overpaying for potential and instead focus on rewarding consistent performances that truly justify such wages
It's a contract negotiation. You open with a high number. If you fall for posturing like this you are a fool.
Eriksen is on 150k/week and Kobbie is twice the player. Kobbie is on 20k. It's poverty wages for a footballer who played in the Euros. He deserves much more and I don't want to see him leaving the club under ANY circumstances
So you'd pay him whatever he wants?
Its all subjective. The first question to ask is "Why would Mainoo, already a first teamer and full England international at 19, commit to a long term contract for a low wage (by United and general football standards) that he would be locked into for 5-6 years? The correct answer is, he wouldn't be incentivized to, especially with almost certain interest abroad. The likes of Bayern, PSG, Barca, or Madrid would have no issues paying him something comparable to that. United are simply in an unfortunate moment of downsizing their wages, which is the only rational explanation why they may be hesitant to pay him that much - not because he's not worth it. He's worth what the market is willing to pay him.
He's a great talent, but £180k per week is obscene for someone his age. Especially since he's had a poor season.
Grew up in our "protect the value" era where fat checks where handed out left and right in fear of losing future great players while not making sure they develop into the players that are worth the massive wage. We are in no hurry to sell - if he massively turns up next season we can talk again.
What a silly overreaction in here.
I doubt there's many, if any of us who want to see Kobbie leave. Christ I know I don't - the Wolves goal is one of my most rewatched. But you seem to agree with most of us then that there is a limit, and that there has to be a point where too much is too much. So we're just arguing about amounts?
I think £70m is undervaluing him in the current market, and I imagine then that that means they might be lowballing him on the salary. But Eriksen is surely a poor comparison being that he is leaving this summer, and was signed under the previous regime. Surely Yoro would be a better comparison - what is he on?
If he wants to leave then there's little we can do about it. We're certainly can't give 180k a week to a player who was only good for a couple of months.
What does this even mean? We ("the market") were willing to pay Sancho, Rashford, Casemiro obscene wages.
He should not get more than Amad. 120k is the maximum. Take it or sell
Is the article written by a good source?
The market is other big clubs. That's not an astronomical wage to pay for a top player who could remain at that club for upwards of a decade.
I would. He's 19 and already had started games in the euros in midfield for England. The reason he's back down the pecking order is because United are having their worst season ever, but you surely can't put that on a 19 year olds shoulders. He should be 3rd/4th choice at his age.
It’s just negotiations. It’s barely even worth printing. His representatives want him to be paid as much as possible. We want to pay him as little as possible. What’s new? Hopefully we have more intelligent negotiators who won’t just give a contract of Rashford proportions already.
Man its just football. Lot worse things in the world than mainoo not signing a contract.