Klopp Confirmed Liverpool Manager

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I don't get the fear, to be honest. If Klopp was half as clever as some make him out to be he'd never take the Liverpool job. Unlike in Germany, he doesn't have to knock off one big dog in Bayern, he's got to knock off four (United, Arsenal, Chelsea, City) not to mention the team he inherits is surrounded by the likes of Tottenham, S'ton, Everton, West Ham and Swansea who all have a bit a parity about them, at least. Klopp taking helm of Liverpool is like watching someone someone charge out of a foxhole with grenades exploding all around them. Armed with only Daniel Sturridges' hamstring. Brave, it must be said, but also daft.

He'd have to make it to January to reinforce, and even then it begs the question, "who has faith they can reinforce?" After that it's the Summer and it's off to Kuala Lampur, Dublin, or wherever to find hapless folk to buy their crap jerseys and look forward to Thursday night Europa if they're lucky. Stream Capital one Cup debacles if they're not.

Klopp will ruin his career taking the helm of that shower. No worries at all.
 
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The fawning over Klopp by some United fans is hardly a surprise and along with the fawning it shows how fickle nature of football fans is. In that fickle world, Fabregas is world class one year and it is massive mistake to miss out on him previously, next season he is footballing fraud. Pedro is world class after 1 goal and assist debut and Woody is villain for missing out on him based on false reports of haggling over couple of millions. After that Pedro is not so much of world class and important after Martial's good start. Forget that not many even knew who Martial was till couple of months ago.

The simple thing here is, Klopp is very good and proven manager but he will be starting from scratch in a different league, in different environment and where the challenges can be tougher and whether he will be success or failure is hard to guess. Also, as United, we can't keep hoping all our rivals to get shit managers and shit players so that we can finish higher. We have to concentrate on us improving enough so as to stay around top even if there are 3-4 very strong rival teams.
 
Raoul said:
I'm sort of not bothered by Klopp or Ancelotti - since neither would have the resources to succeed beyond possibly getting in the CL a time or two. The problem is LFC not the people who manage them.
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I think it wouldnt be fair to write them off. clubs like liverpool are a talismanic player away from being top 4 contenders. If you put someone like Suarez into that team they would compete with the best in the league imo. I think ancelotti (mire than klopp) is capable of bringing that out of someone like coutinho. He has a good track record for developing young players and getting the best out of average players as well. Moreover its also his standing in the game. The man whose won 3 CLs is coaching Liverpool. He will attract decent players as well. Being united mad as i am IMO that would be a disaster.
 
shivab said:
I think it wouldnt be fair to write them off. clubs like liverpool are a talismanic player away from being top 4 contenders. If you put someone like Suarez into that team they would compete with the best in the league imo. I think ancelotti (mire than klopp) is capable of bringing that out of someone like coutinho. He has a good track record for developing young players and getting the best out of average players as well. Moreover its also his standing in the game. The man whose won 3 CLs is coaching Liverpool. He will attract decent players as well. Being united mad as i am IMO that would be a disaster.
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Did you really just claim that Ancelotti has a 'good track record for developing young players', 'more than Klopp'?
I'm dying to know more about that, because the way I see it it's the complete opposite.
Carlo is a fantastic manager, but developing youngsters is absolutely not his area of expertise.
And which 'average players' has he gotten 'the best out' at Milan (when they had top stars), PSG, Real, Chelsea lol?
Kaka? Pirlo? Shevchenko? Ballack? Anelka? Ibrahimovic? Ronaldo?
 
0161_UNITED said:
I don't get the fear, to be honest. If Klopp was half as clever as some make him out to be he'd never take the Liverpool job. Unlike in Germany, he doesn't have to knock off one big dog in Bayern, he's got to knock off four (United, Arsenal, Chelsea, City) not to mention the team he inherits is surrounded by the likes of Tottenham, S'ton, Everton, West Ham and Swansea who all have a bit a parity about them, at least. Klopp taking helm of Liverpool is like watching someone someone charge out of a foxhole with grenades exploding all around them. Armed with only Daniel Sturridges' hamstring. Brave, it must be said, but also daft.

He'd have to make to January to reinforce, and even then it begs the question, "who has faith they can reinforce?" After that it's the Summer and it's off to Kuala Lampur, Dublin, to find hapless folk to buy their crap jerseys and look forward to Tgursday night Europa if they're lucky. Stream Capital one Cup debacles if they're not.

Klopp will ruin his career taking the helm of that shower. No worries at all.
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I'll tentatively counter that (before the Kloppites pile in). I nearly said our new rump of LFCsupporters then... naughty old Monty, :nono:

1) will presumably get some 'bounce' in the short term
2) can have the 1st season as a 'freebie' to some extent, ie. really MUST be there at start of next season barring a proper mishap
3) there are some fairly obvious improvements he can make straightaway-ish - GK, solid LB, in Jan, Hendo to comeback, Lovren moved on
4) is presumably bright enough to not & try enforce a tactical style that doesn't suit Lucas, Skrtel, Studge's hammys,

I've just read about his ''super press'' heavy metal style = young highly motivated superfit players, :nervous: = he needs 17 new players

Not gonna work in England anyway, too many games, teams used to similar, no mid season rest, blah blah blah
 
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Did you really just claim that Ancelotti has a 'good track record for developing young players', 'more than Klopp'?
I'm dying to know more about that, because the way I see it it's the complete opposite.
Carlo is a fantastic manager, but developing youngsters is absolutely not his area of expertise.
And which 'average players' has he gotten 'the best out' at Milan (when they had top stars), PSG, Real, Chelsea lol?
Kaka? Pirlo? Shevchenko? Ballack? Anelka? Ibrahimovic? Ronaldo?
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Klopp to me had his gegenpressing style which worked for a while but then when it stopped working he couldn't develop newer and better ideas. Carlo on the other hand has developed different ideas and adapted to his environments really well (in all the clubs you've named). He inherited a trophy less Milan in 2001 and turned them into one of the most feared teams in Europe. Shevchenko and kaka weren't the players they were under Terim. It was ancelotti who turned pirlo into a deep lying playmaker and played him behind an ageing rui Costa. I think he brought the beat out of ambrosini and even an ageing maladini. Under him at Chelsea josh mc eachran was developing really well. He even brought the best out an average player like Malouda as far as I remember who became one of Chelsea's go to guys. I also think verratti developed well under him at PSG and they gave a good fight to Barcelona in the quarters of the CL. His time at Madrid is also well documented and even the best players like zlatan and ronaldo say that he's a players coach. I think Carlo would a solid choice and there are plenty of reasons why he is good for the development of young and even average players. I hope ive adequately answered your condescending question
 
Browniee said:
Does this mean we automatically hate Klopp now?
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Quite the opposite I think. Klopp embodies everything that some United fans wish for this club. Counter attacking football with character, passion and high intensity.

He's going to be something of an icon that our fans will love to hate to love and will be used as a stick to beat Van Gaal with any time something positive happens for Liverpool.
 
Pexbo said:
Quite the opposite I think. Klopp embodies everything that some United fans wish for this club. Counter attacking football with character, passion and high intensity.

He's going to be something of an icon that our fans will love to hate to love and will be used as a stick to beat Van Gaal with any time something positive happens for Liverpool.
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Unbearable already.
 
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34460797

Jurgen Klopp: Liverpool close to appointing new manager
By Ben SmithBBC Sport
Liverpool are close to appointing ex-Borussia Dortmund boss Jurgen Klopp as their new manager on a three-year contract.

The Reds hope to complete negotiations within the next 48 hours and name the 48-year-old German as Brendan Rodgers' successor by the end of the week.

Rodgers was sacked on Sunday following the 1-1 Premier League draw at Everton.

Klopp has asked to bring Zeljko Buvac and Peter Krawietz as part of his coaching staff.

Bosnian Buvac, 54, and German Krawietz, 43, were key members of Klopp's backroom staff during his time at Dortmund.

The international break means Liverpool's next game is at Tottenham on 17 October.

Klopp guided the club to two Bundesliga titles before he departed this summer after a difficult domestic campaign in which they lost the German Cup final to Wolfsburg and finish seventh in the league.

Rodgers' former assistant Sean O'Driscoll, first-team coach Gary McAllister and development coach Pep Lijnders took training for Liverpool's non-international players on Tuesday.

Ex-England Under-19 manager O'Driscoll and former Reds midfielder McAllister joined the coaching staff in the summer.

They were part of a backroom reshuffle which saw Rodgers' long-term assistant Colin Pascoe and another former player, Mike Marsh, leave the club.

Klopp is understood to have spoken to former Liverpool and Germany midfielder Dietmar Hamann about the club, the city and the fans.

When appointed, Rodgers' replacement will work within the existing structure and what has become known as Anfield's 'transfer committee'.

Liverpool have won only four of their 11 games in all competitions this season, including victory on penalties against League Two Carlisle at home in the Capital One Cup.

Rodgers, who took over in June 2012, led the Reds to second place in the Premier League in 2013-14.
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As good as done. feck
 
In all seriousness it's a bit of a coup for Liverpool. The owners have (seemingly) been very decisive on this one.
 
feck, really rate klopp despite underperforming in his final year. (which wasn't entirely his fault anyways)
 
Just rest assured in the knowledge that it's Liverpool and it'll all go horribly wrong for them for one reason or another and they'll only be able to blame themselves. As is always the case.
 
B20 said:
Ah, the reality. Yet, he obviously doesn't see it that way. Maybe if you broaden your thinking you will be able to comprehend why he is coming.

The fatalist elitism on this board ever since Ferguson resigned is dull as feck.
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I'm entitled to an opinion. He Seems to fancy it and fair enough.

Liverpool is a massive job because the expectation and the brief will be to deliver top 4 consistently against clubs that have much bigger resources. This, until the ground issue is resolved and they can compete commercially is unlikely in my opinion.

Unless he has significant cash to spend every summer - comparable to the rest of the top 4, then that is going to be hard.

I'm not having a dig - just stating facts. If he's not in the CL regularly he's going to be considered a failure. He won't be doing anything Rodgers didn't.
 
Revan said:
That shouldn't be a problem considering that the new EPL deal will be around 50m higher. Putting half of it in the wages means that they would have an extra 500k/week to spend on the wages. Then obviously it is the extra money in case they reach UCL. The difference in money between Arsenal and Liverpool is generally UCL money. The last time we have published reports (13/14), Arsenal had a 45m euro higher revenue.

I think that Klopp would do very well there, and even this year will be in challenge for the fourth place. With the right additions, I think that he can make a very good team. Will he be able to challenge with City, Chelsea and United considering that he'll have 100m+ pounds less per year is something that we don't know, but money ain't everything in football. And in the end, if Rodgers managed to make a very good challenge, then Klopp can do it too.

If I was a Liverpool fan, the day when Klopp signs with them would have been the best footballing day since Instanbul.
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As above, this is about relatively where they are going to be. United, City, Chelsea and Arsenal are going to be tough to overhaul regularly without huge investment. Those clubs can spend mega millions that Liverpool don't have.

As it stands Liverpool can't sign the very best players to replace a Suarez level player. That's their problem. They're reliant on finding unlikely stars year on year as their best players get picked off. Suarez, Sterling and this summer maybe Coutinho - already being linked to Barca.

He might surprise me and get them regular CL football. I think it's unlikely with the squad he has and the money he will probably have.
 
Klopp will take Liverpool back to the top. That's a fact. He'll land a load of unheard of kids from the German league and other leagues and will turn them into something special. Klopp and most certainly not Moyes should have been our choice to succeed Fergie. He's too good for Liverpool but it's all about timing.
With Pep signing a new deal with Bayern soon supposedly then I'm not too sure who is going to be available in 18 months when Van Gaal quits. Maybe Laurent Blanc or Ancelotti.......Right now it's looking like Giggsy is gonna be the favorite to take over in 18 months and I'm not sure that's a wise decision
 
Ringo 07 said:
Klopp will take Liverpool back to the top. That's a fact. He'll land a load of unheard of kids from the German league and other leagues and will turn them into something special. Klopp and most certainly not Moyes should have been our choice to succeed Fergie. He's too good for Liverpool but it's all about timing.
With Pep signing a new deal with Bayern soon supposedly then I'm not too sure who is going to be available in 18 months when Van Gaal quits. Maybe Laurent Blanc or Ancelotti.......Right now it's looking like Giggsy is gonna be the favorite to take over in 18 months and I'm not sure that's a wise decision
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It's not a fact at all, no one knows how it'll turn out.
 
Hammerfell said:
It's not a fact at all, no one knows how it'll turn out.
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Well that's my bet anyways....I can at least see them being a regular top 4 team under him and that does not bode too well for us..When a manager of that class takes over a struggling team with a decent amount of cash then they can do great things ....other examples - Simeone at Atletico, Mourinho at Inter etc

Don't get me wrong..there will still be some great managers out there that we may get when Van Gaal quits such as Joachim Low, Simeone, Conte etc but I really like Klopp and his style and always saw him as a Utd boss one day. It's horrible seeing him go to Liverpool
 
Everyone is shitting the bed over him coming in, that Rich guy even says they'll beat us for 4th (:lol:).

He's not a miracle worker, it even took him a good couple of seasons to get Dortmund to the top. His first two season he finished outside the top 4. I don't expect immediate results from him, it will take time but it seems Liverpool fans have unrealistic expectations. I hope they're not happy with him if he fails to get top 4 this season and the next and get rid of him.
 
I'm more excited about Klopp joining LFC than I was about Benitez becoming manager back in 2004. No idea how it's going to turn out but it's going to be one hell of a ride!
 
It matters not a jot if he still has to work under the 'transfer comitee', with the same buy them young and develop them philosophy, Klopp certainly won't be raiding his old club for Hummels or Reus under this, he also has to compete with four clubs that are alot richer and better located, which I'm not sure he did in Germany, it'll certainly challenge him.

I'm more concerned that the owners are getting Klopp to make the club more desirable to a potential Sheik who has few billion to spend, now that really would be a worry.

From a United point of view it does make me sad as he was the fashionable manager I wanted, but I was happy when we appointed LvG and still am.
 
We were all loving Rogers being sacked but in all honestly, Klopp taking charge of them is a concern. It will be entertaining though and I'm not surprised he is on the verge of going there but it is a shame as he's very likeable and has his teams playing well so would much rather he wasn't taking charge of our arch rivals but never mind.

They've put up with awful managers for so long we can't really begrudge them a quality coach for once. The league will only benefit from them being a serious force again but with United at such a delicate point in the clubs history and the league wide open, I'd much rather they still had Rodgers in charge. I don't think the squad is there right now for him to replicate the success he had at Dortmund but if he is actually there in a few years time I fully expect them to be a bigger threat to us than they have been.
 
iBoss said:
Well I think he actually finished about 7th.

He did win the league once or twice whilst at Dortmund though.
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Well the way some are having a meltdown, you do think Liverpool are hiring Sir Alex. There is no miracle worker in this league, the club must be willing to spend on top players before they can do anything tangible. And once they spend, the manger sets up himself for failure, one bad season they are out.

LVG is in the same predicament. if United messed up from this point on, he's out.
 
Should be pretty exciting for them if nothing else. I think he will do something there whether it is historic or not who knows.
 
shivab said:
Klopp to me had his gegenpressing style which worked for a while but then when it stopped working he couldn't develop newer and better ideas. Carlo on the other hand has developed different ideas and adapted to his environments really well (in all the clubs you've named). He inherited a trophy less Milan in 2001 and turned them into one of the most feared teams in Europe. Shevchenko and kaka weren't the players they were under Terim. It was ancelotti who turned pirlo into a deep lying playmaker and played him behind an ageing rui Costa. I think he brought the beat out of ambrosini and even an ageing maladini. Under him at Chelsea josh mc eachran was developing really well. He even brought the best out an average player like Malouda as far as I remember who became one of Chelsea's go to guys. I also think verratti developed well under him at PSG and they gave a good fight to Barcelona in the quarters of the CL. His time at Madrid is also well documented and even the best players like zlatan and ronaldo say that he's a players coach. I think Carlo would a solid choice and there are plenty of reasons why he is good for the development of young and even average players. I hope ive adequately answered your condescending question
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Josh McEachran? Really?
 
Kop flop Klopp set for the chop has a certain ring to it. I think the owner's expectations of a regular top four finish are unrealistic given their unwillingness to invest in the quality of player required. Whilst Klopp might make a better fist of it than most, it will ultimately end in tears.
 
Will be interesting how it goes. I amen't sure his style will suit the league as much as germany, you can try to high press Villa all you like but not much use when the keeper is bombing it long. Expect a few scalps but if teams learn how to adjust expect some appalling spells too
 
Not only related with Klopp but wondering would any manager accept that position without giving 100% green light to dismantle their so called transfer board/comitee or w/e its called.If not, any manager will have harder task in front,Klopp might have better pull for players but there is no much point if their transfer board might have last word about it.
 
I'm not worried about what he'll achieve with Liverpool, but I'm extremely pissed off that this effectively ends any chance of us ever appointing him.

Also, I'd rather have Brentan in charge of that club than Klopp. I like Klopp :(
 
R'hllor said:
Not only related with Klopp but wondering would any manager accept that position without giving 100% green light to dismantle their so called transfer board/comitee or w/e its called.If not, any manager will have harder task in front,Klopp might have better pull for players but there is no much point if their transfer board might have last word about it.
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the owners must surely look at it themselves though, its not working and they are throwing money down the drain at mediocrity
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
It matters not a jot if he still has to work under the 'transfer comitee', with the same buy them young and develop them philosophy, Klopp certainly won't be raiding his old club for Hummels or Reus under this, he also has to compete with four clubs that
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That is what he did at Dortmund. Subotic, Hummels, Kagawa, Gundogan, Reus, etc were all brought in when they were young and only Reus was a big name when he was signed.
 
He could've waited till next Summer and United, City, Bayern, Real Madrid, Chelsea job could possibly bbe open but Liverpool ?.
Feck sake :wenger:.
 
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I think the owners would have checked with Klopp if he was available to take up the job and then decided to throw Brendan out knowing that they wouldn't get a better opportunity.
I think this is one of the best signing Liverpool has done in almost a decade or more.
 
We'll, if he fancies the Liverpool job then it's probably safe to say that he did not have that much of a desire to be in competition for our next manager anyway. I'm not going to have any kind of meltdown over this.

Klopp is a good lad. He knows the possibilities of becoming our manager some day are next to zero if he takes the scousers job. All the best to him.
 
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