Klopp's agent very quickly denied all upcoming rumours until now. When Favre stepped down at Gladbach and the rumours started, the agent reacted the next morning by saying Klopp won't take the job. If there wasn't any truth to it, we'd know it by now.
Klopp Confirmed Liverpool Manager
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looks like liverpool made the decision of sacking rogers and hiring Klopp a long time ago. He's only 3points away from top 4.
I do not get this obsession with Klopp. Ok, it was fun seeing some clowns/inadequate people to manage Liverpool. But it was inevitable they would get a decent manager sooner or later.
However he is not a magician. He will not change them overnight. Their problems are structural. There is a possibility he will fail miserably. You cannot exclude it. And if his project is going to be successful in longterm (meaning Liverpool will be a genuine contender for major trophies) then fair play. It would be another challenge we need to face. And I would rather us to be better than good Liverpool in opposite to bad or even laughable Liverpool (which was undoubtedly enjoyable at the time). Because that would mean we are feckin brilliant.
However he is not a magician. He will not change them overnight. Their problems are structural. There is a possibility he will fail miserably. You cannot exclude it. And if his project is going to be successful in longterm (meaning Liverpool will be a genuine contender for major trophies) then fair play. It would be another challenge we need to face. And I would rather us to be better than good Liverpool in opposite to bad or even laughable Liverpool (which was undoubtedly enjoyable at the time). Because that would mean we are feckin brilliant.
3 points off the top 4 and I'm presuming he will have funds for the January transfer window, with Chelsea playing shite this season there's no reason why a top 4 finish can't be achieved by Klopp. Let's be honest this will be a great appointment by Liverpool.
This is the key for me and why i'm not worried, if he does well then fair enough but that isn't obvious yet, if the players can't execute what he asks then there will be errors, it's an intense system that when it comes off it's brilliant but when it doesn't they will drop points.
It will be difficult for him to change them immediately and with Mourinho still at Chelsea I would expect the top four to stay as they are, then next season they will all strengthen, United now have a squad they only need to add world class players too and we are a world class player or two away from being one of the best in Europe assuming Martial and Depay develop as expected and Shaw recovers from his injury.
Ryan Giggs also could be the next United manager allowing for continuity, he will know the players well and what he wants, the board won't make that decision if they don't think he is up to it.
The big advantage of Klopp is the increased chance of holding onto players like Coutinho and Sturridge but for them to break into top four it will probably require one of the other top four to have a poor season.
Does anyone actually think they have the players for his system?
That's difficult to tell. Quite often players who are supposedly great fits to a system struggle while others surprise. I think in the beginning his character will lead to a very positive attitude and could improve the mentality of the team a lot. They have a decent mix of individual quality and workhorses, so that's something to work with for Klopp. Benteke, Coutinho, Firminho are good talents in attack. The midfied's a bit dire but not that bad.
I don't rate any of their defenders and Klopp struggled to adapt his defensive set-up once the Bundesliga teams figured out how to play against his pressing, that's in my opinion the biggest question mark. We'll see if he learned something from it and how the Premier League clubs react to his tactics.
I don't think anyone should expect him to come midway in the season and turn them into a top 4 team within a few weeks. If they miraculously pull off a top 4 finish, it'll be because they went on a crazy run boosted by a change in mentality along with one of the top 4 teams fecking up big time (Chelsea continues to struggle, United or Arsenal collapse, something like that). 5th or 6th with a positive development in playing style this season and then a challenge for top 4 the following season is a likely outcome in my opinion.
It's another 5 year plan, another squad overhaul to get rid of the old manager's team, and most likely another attempt to do it 'on the cheap' with a manager who is used to working with a second tier budget and can accept the flux of losing star players to bigger teams.
Not 100 %. But they have some Players to build the Basis and Klopp will buy the perfect missing Players next summer after having worked a while with what he got.
He is excellent in bringing in the right Players.
I think some here are underrating this guy. I guess he enjoyed his time off and will be back in the game hungry for success. He will lead Liverpool into top 4 this season and with the right Investments challenge for the title within the next 2 seasons.
There is no Manager I rate higher than him. Not LvG, not Guardiola, not Mourinho. Not even Sir Alex.
Sir Alex never finished 7th with a team that had got into the CL.
Surely any manager wants to give himself the best chance of success.
I reckon Klopp couldn't care less.
Don't think many appreciate just how much better he is tactically than the dinosaurs that head the other big clubs in the league.
Will we see a mass exodus of the football hipsters on here to RAWK?
fecking hell. Yeah, the managers of the top PL clubs are all a bunch of long ball merchants compared to Klopp
hahahahahaha!
Interesting that you say that because this is what the media close to liverpool are saying
. Fair enough, the club might be more delusional than I initially thought. If that is true of course.There is no denying that he did wonders at Dortmund. And there is no guarantee that he could achieve similar feats at a club in a very different league.
It's harsh how some people underrate Klopp or what he achieved at Dortmund. I hope he goes to Liverpool, I think it's a good match and both sides will benefit from it. And if nothing else, he might bring something new to your league. Who knows, could be interesting for everyone. 
Flipping hell.
Good luck supporting Liverpool so.
Actually no, I wish you and Liverpool no luck at all.
My remark about losing the hipsters to RAWK may have more truth than I thought. Poor RAWK!
On a broader perspective I believe Klopp's potential arrival in the EPL would benefit English football overall. Aside from Pep he is the only one so far who has developed a real constant pressing machine. His Dortmund machine was breathtaking at times. Hustling, fast, strong, decisive, with a very clear plan and great execution. If he could repeat this in Liverpool it could influence the general style of football in England. If opponents didn't try to copy him, they at least had to learn how to cope with it. That learning process might be painful, but it improves opponents as well. Sometimes, Dortmund came over opponents like a hurricane. IMO Bayern became so strong in recent years, not solely but also, because of what Klopp's Dortmund did to them.
This could be worse for the Bundesliga than Bayern's dominance.
A top manager (potentially or proven - pick yourself) who is the posterboy of German club footy manages a PL club. I think he'll work like a magnet for German players and managers likewise.
Any capable young fresh manager is welcome imo, even if he manages our rivals or Liverpool. Great for the PL in every aspect.
A top manager (potentially or proven - pick yourself) who is the posterboy of German club footy manages a PL club. I think he'll work like a magnet for German players and managers likewise.
Any capable young fresh manager is welcome imo, even if he manages our rivals or Liverpool. Great for the PL in every aspect.
Klopp is an excellent manager, I wanted him to replace both Ferguson and Moyes. Really hope he turns Liverpool down but sadly it's looking quite likely.
Wasn't his first league title at Dortmund won when Van Gaal was the Bayern manager btw? I wonder what the games between the two teams were like.
Wasn't his first league title at Dortmund won when Van Gaal was the Bayern manager btw? I wonder what the games between the two teams were like.
What a bizarre thing to think and say. Has Klopp stayed at a club for 27 years and taken it to the very top in club football? Even before coming to United, Sir Alex took Aberdeen to their greatest period in history, to European success beating Real Madrid, the best club in the world in the 80s.
At United, he took us from a club that had rather lost its way after Sir Matt. He took us to the very top in club football winning 13 league titles and 2 European cups. The treble in 99 was an astonishing achievement. He excelled at blending young talent with senior established players in the squad. There will not be a long lasting manager like him at a top club for a very very long time.
Athletic Bilboa under Bielsa had a great pressing game as well. Not saying I disagree with your point(Even though it's he's going to Liverpool I'm looking forward to it)
It does look like FSG have chosen this international break so the manager which is most probably Klopp has time to work with the players. Unlikely they'd sack Rodgers without any confirmation since the draw at Everton was hardly worth sacking for.
They'll go for Klopp because of his passion and vocals and has managed in similar club in Dortmund. Very unlikely Ancelotti would be interested in the job anyway.
They'll go for Klopp because of his passion and vocals and has managed in similar club in Dortmund. Very unlikely Ancelotti would be interested in the job anyway.
In LvG's last season with Bayern he lost both matches to Dortmund, who were on their way to win the league. LvG was fired eventually.
EDIT: I forgot to mention: Bayern looked clueless.
Wow, so how does he outscore all the mentioned managers in your books? I think he's really good, but in my books he still has a long way to go to get where you see him.
Ahahaha, no. I don't think anything else needs to be said about this post.
Not entirely. I think they have a few players there that would suit him though. The midfield and CB positions would have to get sorted.
They won 2:0 at home and 3:1 away.
Not my best memories.
Van Gaal was a mess, everyone was just glad when he was gone.
The theatre with Kraft was just unbearable.
this is the batshittery I was on about in the new newbie system thread.I'm kinda glad we get to see a bit more stuff like this, but Jesus.
Bayern won the first match against van Gaal with a 5:1 in 2009/10...
Klopp was seven years at Dortmund - it did not start in 2010/11. He overhauled the players in the first years a lot.
New players usually weren't good in their first year in Dortmund.
Van Gaal in his second year had a lot problems with the new early pressing system of some teams - not just Dortmund. Bayern had that the next season with Heynckes, too. Like City had in every match - remember the match against Stuttgart in preseason... It is a clash of system - one team waiting for the mistakes another team trying not to make any.
He's exactly what Liverpool have needed for the last 20 years imo. Someone who will join the club and completely shake it up from the ground up. Will end up being their best signing in years.
That was our last victory for a long, long time.
Next victory against them was a cup match near the end of the 12/13 season, half a year later we finally got to win against them in the league.
Surely not. Same with players really. Maradona could have signed for better teams than Napoli, Zico for better teams than Udinese.
Am i really reading caf or i just incidentially went to RAWK. Guys i tell you, if he goes to Liverpool he will flop, not because he is not a great manager but because the expectation will be to big, he will never get 3 years as Rodgers and the media will be talking again how hard is PL compared to other leagues like Bundesliga...
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