Klopp Confirmed Liverpool Manager

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Cantonaaa! said:
Van Gaal is so stubborn that he might very well find a way to win the league.
And reality is he has taken us from 7th to 4th in a year, and we're currently two points off the top. Just because we lost away to Arsenal in a bad way doesn't mean we can't win it this or next season.
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I'm sorry but when are people going to wake up and realise that LVG isn't all that? So far he's done nothing to show that he can win the league for us.

Yes he took us from 7th to 4th but he didn't accrue many more points. Despite all the money he's spent his point return is about the same as Moyes! The reason we finished top 4 was more the failings of others.

People look at LVGs record and think he's guaranteed to do well. That's just not the case. For a start he's not been a success everywhere he's been and secondly his style of play doesn't suit the Premier League.

There's no guarantees that Fergie would have been a success in other countries. But people need to realise that just because some United fans don't blindly back the boss doesn't mean they don't follow the club.

Klopp will be a great appointment by Liverpool and those who think he's not going to improve them to the point of challenging us are deluding themselves.
 
SqueakyWeasel said:
I'm sure it's been said on here many times but I simply don't want to have to hate Klopp! Think he would have been better off replacing Wenger at The Arse, much better fit IMHO.
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When Bobby Robson left Newcastle, one of my Sunderland supporting mates said 'Thank feck for that, now I can hate their managers again'. You don't have to hate a manager because he's in charge of a rival team.. I positively loved Moyes when he was at OT ;)
 
Why aren't we reacting? Bring Klopp to OT, let him be our number 2 and let him do research until the end of the season before he takes charge. We can't let the fecking dippers go from Brenton Flop to Klopp.
 
Bastian said:
What? Better version of Brendan? Like SAF is a better version of Allardyce you mean?
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Hes the latest fashionable manager, like Brendan was at Swansea. Hes obviously better than Brendan but the thought of him managing Liverpool doesnt fill me with fear like Ancelotti or someone like Guardiola would.
 
Rich_H_1989 said:
I'm sorry but when are people going to wake up and realise that LVG isn't all that? So far he's done nothing to show that he can win the league for us.

Yes he took us from 7th to 4th but he didn't accrue many more points. Despite all the money he's spent his point return is about the same as Moyes! The reason we finished top 4 was more the failings of others.

People look at LVGs record and think he's guaranteed to do well. That's just not the case. For a start he's not been a success everywhere he's been and secondly his style of play doesn't suit the Premier League.

There's no guarantees that Fergie would have been a success in other countries. But people need to realise that just because some United fans don't blindly back the boss doesn't mean they don't follow the club.

Klopp will be a great appointment by Liverpool and those who think he's not going to improve them to the point of challenging us are deluding themselves.
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We finished Moyes season on 64 points and it was after Giggs took over and we performed better at the end. Under van Gaal we got 70 and you need to factor in his abysmal start to season where he had no PL experience and frankly did not prepare the team well enough - to his excuse he took over a side with no belief and void of ideas after they spent a season with Smug Scot.

Van Gaal has done a good job with us. Not great but he has brought some fresh ideas to the table and we have improved as a team.
 
Rich_H_1989 said:
I'm sorry but when are people going to wake up and realise that LVG isn't all that? So far he's done nothing to show that he can win the league for us.

Yes he took us from 7th to 4th but he didn't accrue many more points. Despite all the money he's spent his point return is about the same as Moyes! The reason we finished top 4 was more the failings of others.

People look at LVGs record and think he's guaranteed to do well. That's just not the case. For a start he's not been a success everywhere he's been and secondly his style of play doesn't suit the Premier League.

There's no guarantees that Fergie would have been a success in other countries. But people need to realise that just because some United fans don't blindly back the boss doesn't mean they don't follow the club.

Klopp will be a great appointment by Liverpool and those who think he's not going to improve them to the point of challenging us are deluding themselves.
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All that you say about Lvg might be true but it's funny that you then believe that Klopp will be a sureshot success even though he has never managed outside the Bundesliga
 
Rich_H_1989 said:
I'm sorry but when are people going to wake up and realise that LVG isn't all that? So far he's done nothing to show that he can win the league for us.

Yes he took us from 7th to 4th but he didn't accrue many more points. Despite all the money he's spent his point return is about the same as Moyes! The reason we finished top 4 was more the failings of others.

People look at LVGs record and think he's guaranteed to do well. That's just not the case. For a start he's not been a success everywhere he's been and secondly his style of play doesn't suit the Premier League.

There's no guarantees that Fergie would have been a success in other countries. But people need to realise that just because some United fans don't blindly back the boss doesn't mean they don't follow the club.

Klopp will be a great appointment by Liverpool and those who think he's not going to improve them to the point of challenging us are deluding themselves.
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If Moyes had the no of injuries we had last season, he would have got us relegated. Very simple.
Can you name one recent season, where the no of injuries were so alarmingly frequent.
 
Klopp won't make Liverpool a title challenger IMO. I wonder if he and his manager realised that he can never manage United in the future if he goes to Liverpool now.
 
11101 said:
Hes the latest fashionable manager, like Brendan was at Swansea. Hes obviously better than Brendan but the thought of him managing Liverpool doesnt fill me with fear like Ancelotti or someone like Guardiola would.
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Ancelotti would be a great manager but he's more used to going into clubs where they are already challenging for honours. Guardiola is out of reach for anyone at this moment in time (not that I think he'd come to LFC anyway) but Klopp is almost a perfect fit. I was excited when there was talk in 2004 of Benitez arriving at Anfield. This appointment is even bigger. The club's in a worse situation and we're in desperate need of a manager who can take us into the UCL and who knows where else
 
Can almost guarantee they'll be playing better football than us within two games, if they get Klopp.

And people on here will go mad.
 
VorZakone said:
Klopp won't make Liverpool a title challenger IMO. I wonder if he and his manager realised that he can never manage United in the future if he goes to Liverpool now.
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I know Woodward likes Klopp as well. Maybe not enough to make him our manager, but he did single him out for appreciation in some interview, a year ago.
 
I wonder if RAWK has a redcafe goes into meltdown thread, if they do then this thread should be Gold for them.
 
Rich_H_1989 said:
I'm sorry but when are people going to wake up and realise that LVG isn't all that? So far he's done nothing to show that he can win the league for us.

Yes he took us from 7th to 4th but he didn't accrue many more points. Despite all the money he's spent his point return is about the same as Moyes! The reason we finished top 4 was more the failings of others.

People look at LVGs record and think he's guaranteed to do well. That's just not the case. For a start he's not been a success everywhere he's been and secondly his style of play doesn't suit the Premier League.

There's no guarantees that Fergie would have been a success in other countries. But people need to realise that just because some United fans don't blindly back the boss doesn't mean they don't follow the club.

Klopp will be a great appointment by Liverpool and those who think he's not going to improve them to the point of challenging us are deluding themselves.
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You negate everything you have just said about both Van Gaal and Ferguson in the space of your last sentence.

Klopp guarantees nothing. He's a likeable fella' with a very good (not great) track record. That's all he is at this point.

On a side note, it's an irrefutable fact that Van Gaal has enjoyed success in every country he has managed up until this point. He's just over twelve months into his United tenure, too.
 
Sarni said:
We finished Moyes season on 64 points and it was after Giggs took over and we performed better at the end. Under van Gaal we got 70 and you need to factor in his abysmal start to season where he had no PL experience and frankly did not prepare the team well enough - to his excuse he took over a side with no belief and void of ideas after they spent a season with Smug Scot.
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Their records after 50 games were virtually identical. Let's not forget that while Moyes did an awful job he did it with a side left to him that simply wasn't good enough! Yes it had won the title the season before but we all saw the gaping holes. I'm not defending Moyes as he was hopeless, I'm just trying to get people to see that LVG really isn't all that.

Ayush_reddevil said:
All that you say about Lvg might be true but it's funny that you then believe that Klopp will be a sureshot success even though he has never managed outside the Bundesliga
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The style of play that Klopp will bring is absolutely suited to the Premier League. That's why I think he will be a success. I may be wrong and hope I am. But having seen 15 or so months of LVG I'm convinced that he isn't right for the Premier League. And all along I'd have rathered Klopp.
 
Sarni said:
They don't mean that no one has played this well, even Mourinho's Chelsea team from his first spell was probably superior to what Dortmund were at best under Klopp, but in terms of style very few teams out there were capable of making transition from defence to attack at such pace and fluidity. This will sound controversial but Premier League side who try to adapt a similar style (definitely last season and to an extent this season because they've been playing to their strengths) are Leicester. Obviously the quality is staggeringly different but in terms of approach and pace at which they play it's sort of similar, they've been reaping rewards of it as well and are one of the most consistently entertaining sides in the league.
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I genuinely believe that the best facets of Dortmund play were very similar to the qualities that made a Ferguson United side stand out for its energy, pace of transition and aggression when attacking.

Small differences, of course, but that Dortmund side were nothing new or original in spite of how entertaining they were.
 
Kag said:
You negate everything you have just said about both Van Gaal and Ferguson in the space of your last sentence.

Klopp guarantees nothing. He's a likeable fella' with a very good (not great) track record. That's all he is at this point.

On a side note, it's an irrefutable fact that Van Gaal has enjoyed success in every country he has managed up until this point. He's just over twelve months into his United tenure, too.
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Firstly I can't help but feel Klopp is being harshly done by on the basis of his final season. What he did with Dortmund with nowhere near the funding of Bayern was an incredible achievement. He also took them to the Champions League final and made them serious players in Europe for a number of years.

Klopp doesn't guarantee anything you're right. But the style he will bring suits the league. And things will improve at liverpool because they couldn't get much worse than under Rodgers! 4 points behind with the next 3 league games we have? Don't be surprised to see Liverpool above us come November.
 
I think that a lot of people are overrating Klopp. A lot of his success is due to the the overall Dortmund structure and at Liverpool he will be largely slotting into a wholly less effective structure. I doubt that Klopp will be able to emulate what Rodgers achieved a couple of seasons ago and I wouldn't be surprised if this all ends in Scouse tears.
 
VorZakone said:
Klopp won't make Liverpool a title challenger IMO. I wonder if he and his manager realised that he can never manage United in the future if he goes to Liverpool now.
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Not only that, but it's also possible that come the end of the season the Chelsea, City, Bayern and Madrid jobs will be up for grabs. No guarantees of course, but Klopp can definitely do better.
 
Klopp can't make them competitive enough with this group of mediocre players but if he manages to sign a gem like Suarez, then everything becomes possible. Too early to worry though.
 
TooBias said:
Not only that, but it's also possible that come the end of the season the Chelsea, City, Bayern and Madrid jobs will be up for grabs. No guarantees of course, but Klopp can definitely do better.
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Maybe he doesn't want to. There are some who don't just pick from the top shelf as a matter of course.
 
I don't really understand this. From Liverpool's point of view it's all good, but why on earth would Klopp want to join Liverpool now? Terrible league position, no transfer window to make immediate changes + there will quite possibly be quite a few big jobs vacant this summer.
 
pierrethesnack said:
I don't really understand this. From Liverpool's point of view it's all good, but why on earth would Klopp want to join Liverpool now? Terrible league position, no transfer window to make immediate changes + there will quite possibly be quite a few big jobs vacant this summer.
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It's a far bigger challenge to succeed with the likes of Dortmund and Liverpool than with Munich and Madrid? That's admirable if anything, tbf.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
I think that a lot of people are overrating Klopp. A lot of his success is due to the the overall Dortmund structure and at Liverpool he will be largely slotting into a wholly less effective structure. I doubt that Klopp will be able to emulate what Rodgers achieved a couple of seasons ago and I wouldn't be surprised if this all ends in Scouse tears.
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Its easy to overrate Kloppo, and it's as easy to underrate him as well. Some might say his tactics have been to one-dimensional in the end and too physically exhausting on the long run for his players, but what he did with a team that was in no-mans-land when he took over was and is remarkable.
 
Treble said:
It's a far bigger challenge to succeed with the likes of Dortmund and Liverpool than with Munich and Madrid? That's admirable if anything, tbf.
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I don't disagree. I certainly admire him for choosing Liverpool over Bayern (if that's what he's doing) but it's just the timing of it all.
 
pierrethesnack said:
I don't disagree. I certainly admire him for choosing Liverpool over Bayern (if that's what he's doing) but it's just the timing of it all.
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Actually I think it is better for the team this way. We will be spared overhaul syndrome as the manager will have to work with the group for at least three months of competitive games before making changes. It's a much better foundation for assessing the squad than pre season. What we lose in pre season preparation will probably be offset by the lift of getting a new star manager in the short term.

Rafa didn't rate finnan at all before the season started when he came, for example. And Henderson was nearly a swap with fecking dempsey when Rodgers took over.
 
pierrethesnack said:
I don't disagree. I certainly admire him for choosing Liverpool over Bayern (if that's what he's doing) but it's just the timing of it all.
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He is doing exactly what guardiola was criticised for not doing when he joined Bayern. Picking something more challenging than the top team that will probably do just as well without him.
 
I've just heard Klopp is going to be allowed to field 16 players and that Liverpool have signed Thor & Captain America.

We're fecked.
 
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While i am not necessarily happy with his eventual coming to the PL, i can't help it but notice that he is very well suited for the job. Has a lot of work to do and it's not guaranteed he will be more successful than Rodgers. Liverpool are a weak side and at the moment they have the biggest problem in the world. Quality players do not want to come there.

He's a very likable guy, probably the first Liverpool manager i actually like in 15 years and in the end it would benefit everybody to have one more strong side in the League. Good luck to him.
 
Sunny Jim said:
Im still under impression that Klopp has agreed to replace Pep Guardiola at Bayern.
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I also believe that he had his eye on the Bayern job. I still hope to see him at the club at some point in the future. But there are more and more rumours that Pep will sign an extension soon and that this triggered Klopp's decision. Again, could be bollocks of course, some journalist could just made it up because it fits the narrative, but it wouldn't be the worst explanation for Klopp's interest in joing Liverpool now. City just extended with Pellegrini, United probably won't fire van Gaal as long as he gets the team into the top 4. Wenger won't leave and I'm fairly sure he's not that interested in the Real job, he'd much rather coach in England.

All of a sudden Liverpool looks like a pretty interesting job.
 
I am not in the slightest bit worried about this. SAF himself coudnt sort that shambles of a club, a mere mortal like Klopp has no chance
 
TooBias said:
Not only that, but it's also possible that come the end of the season the Chelsea, City, Bayern and Madrid jobs will be up for grabs. No guarantees of course, but Klopp can definitely do better.
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And you can be sure that Klopp would be one of top 3 candidates for all of them, especially as only Ancelotti out of top level managers is also available (well if any of them four sack their managers you will be able to add Mourinho, Guardiola and Pellegrini to the list).
 
I think this thread will keep running for long time and keep getting bumped by each sides after each good/bad result respectively. Just like the players threads or few other argument prone thread do.
 
I'm not buying into this story until there's something more concrete. It was the easy narrative for the papers to pick up and run with while they had very little information.
 
I think he is a very good manager, but hope he and Liverpool fail miserably. I dont 'love' him, like some on here and i dont like these sudden popular managers and hipster clubs, but still acknowledge his quality. Being Liverpool manager is part of it, so he can go feck himself. I dont know how successfull he will be, because they are a weird bunch, but Liverpool will definately be better and pose a more serious threat. I just hope we get Carlo or Pep after van Gaal, now that Klopp is off the list.
 
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