Klaas-Jan Huntelaar

Mitch Conor said:
Then why did Liverpool need special dispensation to sign Mascherano - he had only played for West Ham that season - he had been playing for Corinthians i suppose, but i thought that was considered to be a different season.
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On 16 January 2007, Liverpool requested clearance from FIFA to take Mascherano on loan from West Ham. FIFA's rules state that no player can play for more than two different clubs between 1 July and 30 June the following year, but Mascherano had already played for both Corinthians and West Ham during this time.

Mascherano played for Corinthians and West Ham, so Liverpool needed special dispensation to loan him.

Huntelaar played for Ajax and Real Madrid. He won't play for Madrid till the end of June, so anyone can sign him without any problems.
 
Maciek said:
On 16 January 2007, Liverpool requested clearance from FIFA to take Mascherano on loan from West Ham. FIFA's rules state that no player can play for more than two different clubs between 1 July and 30 June the following year, but Mascherano had already played for both Corinthians and West Ham during this time.

Mascherano played for Corinthians and West Ham, so Liverpool needed special dispensation to loan him.

Huntelaar played for Ajax and Real Madrid. He won't play for Madrid till the end of June, so anyone can sign him without any problems.
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ah right, cheers.
 
Brwned said:
Huntelaar played 17 games out of a possible 25, or something. He played in about 3/4 of their games.

Not sure what point you're trying to make.

He's leaving because he wants to be first choice at a big club.
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How many goals did he score for Real?
 
meh, hardly an exciting striker, if anything he'll slow our game down
 
Brwned said:
Huntelaar played 17 games out of a possible 25, or something. He played in about 3/4 of their games.

Not sure what point you're trying to make.

He's leaving because he wants to be first choice at a big club.
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Is he good enough to be that at Utd?
 
Eyepopper said:
Is he good enough to be that at Utd?
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IMO no, i mean no club was willing to take a risk on him when he was younger and after a big club finally came in to get him hes hardly been a starter or shown the potential that he was showing in the Dutch league. I dont think United will sign him and i reckon its just another rumour, it seems that United are interested in every player across Europe the last few days
 
The Wizard said:
Good post, seems you have a fair grasp of the players in Holland, and not skewed but hype.

Can you tell me who are the real up and coming ot current talents in the Dutch league? Are there any players there that we should be interested in?
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Ibrahim Afellay, Eljero Elia, and Luis Suárez are probably the most promising talents in Holland. Other bright spots include Marcus Berg, Marko Arnautović, Gregory van der Wiel, Moussa Dembélé, and Georginio Wijnaldum.

I think the only player who would really strenghten our squad would be Afellay, though. The others are for the most part unproven at the highest level.

Regarding Huntelaar, I just saw this:

http://goal.com/en/news/9/england/2...united-want-huntelaar-from-real-madrid-report

Manchester United Want Huntelaar From Real Madrid - Report
With a Dutch exodus predicted from the Bernabeu, the Red Devils could be set to add an Oranje tinge to Old Trafford...
25 Jun 2009 16:31:52

Real Madrid have been the biggest movers, at least in terms of star names and finance, in this summer's transfer window so far, with Brazilian superstar Kaka leaving AC Milan for the Bernabeu and Cristiano Ronaldo departing Manchester United to link up with los Blancos over the coming days.

Observers have predicted that the Spaniards will need to clear some space at the club to accommodate the further signings which are anticipated, and a report has emerged in England today that the club could be ready to rid itself of all six of its Dutch players.

One of those is Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, and the striker is piquing the interest of English champions Manchester United, according to Sky Sports News.

The player's agent has told the broadcaster that there is interest in the player from England, Germany, Italy and France, without revealing the names of the specific clubs involved. A "separate source" has informed Sky that one of those clubs is the Red Devils, though.

Huntelaar's agent was cagey when discussing the issue, saying, "Kaka said he wanted to stay at AC Milan, but now he's gone to Real Madrid."

With Carlos Tevez also expected to leave Old Trafford very soon, it appears Alex Ferguson might move quickly to find some striking reinforcement. There has been no indication as to the potential fee involved.

Zack Wilson, Goal.com
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RedThaiDevils#7 said:
No thx hunter, he and alfonso alves has proved that the Dutch league hasn't been up to the standards set by Ruud.
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Judging a player by the quality of the league he plays in is rather silly IMHO. For every Afonso Alves, Kezman, or Boulahrouz there is a Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Robin van Persie, Rafael van der Vaart, Alex Rodrigo Dias da Costa (Chelsea Alex) or Wesley Sneijder. Besides, Huntelaar has done well on international level with Holland and with Ajax in the UEFA Cup. He scored 8 goals in 20 games for Madrid in 6 months despite hardly being a starter and mainly being used as a post-60 minute sub.
 
jacoplane said:
Ibrahim Afellay, Eljero Elia, and Luis Suárez are probably the most promising talents in Holland. Other bright spots include Marcus Berg, Marko Arnautović, Gregory van der Wiel, Moussa Dembélé, and Georginio Wijnaldum.

I think the only player who would really strenghten our squad would be Afellay, though. The others are for the most part unproven at the highest level.

Regarding Huntelaar, I just saw this:

http://goal.com/en/news/9/england/2...united-want-huntelaar-from-real-madrid-report
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Yes please.
 
We need a goalscorer - not necessarily a Nistelrooy-type - but absolutely a player who scores 15-20 goals a season.

I just don't want us ending up with 3 strikers, all better at creating goals than scoring goals. In that respect Huntelaar is a better choice than many other players we have been linked with - esp if Benzema decides to stay in France
 
lysglimt said:
We need a goalscorer - not necessarily a Nistelrooy-type - but absolutely a player who scores 15-20 goals a season.

I just don't want us ending up with 3 strikers, all better at creating goals than scoring goals. In that respect Huntelaar is a better choice than many other players we have been linked with - esp if Benzema decides to stay in France
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Exactly. TBH, I've not seen him as much as others on here have but I certainly know of his goal record and if there's any chance of him scoring goals for us like he's previously done then I'd kill to have him here. With the amount of chances we create, I think he'd score a bucket load for us. People criticise his play apart from scoring but at the end of the day, if he scores 20-30 goals a season, who gives a shit about anything else? If he does feck all else but put the ball into the net every match, I wouldn't give a shit.
 
I think he's very talented but doesn't do anywhere near enough of it, and I'd not want him at my club.
 
Brwned said:
I think he's very talented but doesn't do anywhere near enough of it, and I'd not want him at my club.
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Fair play.

Personally I'd have him at United, but he's one of those players who needs an Owen Hargreaves type player to do the dirty work for him. Its an age old combination, and one that can pay dividends. We're too reliant on Carrick for midfield creativity at times, and someone like Sneijder would fit in nicely, provided we had ample protection.
 
Brwned said:
I think he's very talented but doesn't do anywhere near enough of it, and I'd not want him at my club.
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I disagree, i'd happily take him and Snidjder. Two talented dutch players who would settle easily in England and improve our attack no end. Huntlaar has scored goals at every level he's played at and would be excellent in the prem, Snidjder like-wise.
 
Brwned said:
Yeah but Kuyt's average and Sneijder's only decent.
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Ah no, Brwned. Kuyt is not average, he is a starter for the second best team in England and scored 19 goals (including international goals) last season. You don't do that if you're average. He might have been average two years back, but his improvement is plain to see. Useful player to have, despite all the spastic comments about him on the caf.
 
Anduin said:
Ah no, Brwned. Kuyt is not average, he is a starter for the second best team in England and scored 19 goals (including international goals) last season. You don't do that if you're average. He might have been average two years back, but his improvement is plain to see. Useful player to have, despite all the spastic comments about him on the caf.
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Kuyt is a very good player - but he is the kind of player who needs good players around him because he can't create that much himself. But his workrate can't be much worse than Park's and in addition he scores quite a few goals. He is one of the most underrated players at Liverpool
 
lysglimt said:
Kuyt is a very good player - but he is the kind of player who needs good players around him because he can't create that much himself. But his workrate can't be much worse than Park's and in addition he scores quite a few goals. He is one of the most underrated players at Liverpool
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I agree, he basically combines Park's work rate with a decent goalscoring record. And seeing how many caftards rate Park I'd say it's ridiculous to refuse to give Kuyt any credit, no matter the team he plays for.
 
Sonny1972 said:
What about Kuyt Robben Sneijder ?? they from the same piss poor league !!!
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Haven't seen Kuyt set the PL alight like Ruud. Good player but not in Ruuds mould. Sneijder is not a FW and I was giving examples to the FW and their goals. After Ruud, Kezman failed and f*ck knows where he is. Kuyt had a good reputation was bought to Liverpool for what 3 seasons and to me despite his good run at the start of season 08/09 fails. Alfonso Alves is relegated with Boro and Huntelaar hasn't proved his worth for 18m yet.
 
BAMSOLA said:
I disagree, i'd happily take him and Snidjder. Two talented dutch players who would settle easily in England and improve our attack no end. Huntlaar has scored goals at every level he's played at and would be excellent in the prem, Snidjder like-wise.
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How do you know that Sniejder can fit in the PL easily ? Sometimes he can't even cope with the pace of the Spanish league so I dare say he might struggle at the PL. Rather take someone who is proven in our league than sniedjer atm. Rodwell, Cattermore or maybe even Ireland should be a wiser choice for young Midfielders.
 
Anduin said:
Ah no, Brwned. Kuyt is not average, he is a starter for the second best team in England and scored 19 goals (including international goals) last season. You don't do that if you're average. He might have been average two years back, but his improvement is plain to see. Useful player to have, despite all the spastic comments about him on the caf.
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I think he'd prove only useful to the Scousers cuz he won't fit in our 442. It'd be Fletcher on the flanks all over again.
 
Huntelaar linked to United

Fri 26 Jun, 08:01 AM

Klaas Jan Huntelaar is the latest big-name striker to be linked with a move to Manchester United.

Given the number of big-money signings at Real Madrid this summer, it would be no surprise if Huntelaar found himself surplus to requirements at the Bernabeu Stadium.

And, as any attempt to lure Karim Benzema to Old Trafford looks fraught with difficulty, it is not a shock either that it has been suggested a move for Huntelaar by Sir Alex Ferguson is on the cards.

Although he is a key part of the Dutch side that became the first European team to qualify for the World Cup Finals earlier this month, Huntelaar has not appeared to settle in Spain since joining Real in January this year.

The 25-year-old former Ajax star scored eight goals in 20 appearances for his new club. However, he was omitted from their Champions League squad in favour of Lassana Diarra and an approach from Ferguson may well pay off.

Not that United - about to pocket £80million from Real for the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo - are exactly short of possibilities in the attacking department.

Apart from Benzema, who would cost around £30million if he could be prized away from Lyon, Atletico Madrid's Argentina front-man Sergio Aguero appears to feature on United's radar, even though the team-mate of former Old Trafford striker Diego Forlan would cost at least £10million more.
 
I would suppose he would be our back-up if we were not to get Benzema this season or next.. However to ensure we do not rule out any possibility of getting Benzema, I think we should get Huntelaar on loan for a year first.. If he does well sign him up.. if he does alright and we have a chance of getting Benzema let him go.. IMO it would be better than singing him right away.. I doubt Real Madrid would mind letting him go out on loan initially.. They seem to be dealing with a few of their outgoing transfer in a similar fashion..
 
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