Klaas-Jan Huntelaar

But you also don't release the ball as slowly as he does with one.

Works both ways.

When it comes to shooting there's no "slowly" involved. I do agree that his link up play is basic at best, but his movement and finishing are both great, and he is a steroetypical no.9 - the type of player we lack.
 
But you also don't release the ball as slowly as he does with one.

Works both ways.

it does, but releasing the ball quicker can be beaten into someone if necessary.

I think he'd be a good addition at the right price because he brings something new to the show ... and over a season we need as many options as possible.

Squadwise I think it would improve us, and that's all one can ask for?
 
Huntelaar is a good player,who could be great at United,but we have 2 young strikers in wellbeck and macheda who i consider could be better given the opportunity.

Dont include ruud in the argument hes a soft twat .

I must admit i really thought Kuyt would have been brilliant at the dippers so i was wrong on that one,who knows i could be wrong on this,i just think Huntelaar couldnt handle the pressure at Madrid,so i think he might struggle here.
 
it does, but releasing the ball quicker can be beaten into someone if necessary.

I think he'd be a good addition at the right price because he brings something new to the show ... and over a season we need as many options as possible.

Squadwise I think it would improve us, and that's all one can ask for?

Plus he should be available at a knock-down price and shouldn't be unhappy at being rotated with Berbatov, unlike Tevez.
I'd be happy to see him sign, especially given that generally we create a lot of chances, and fail to put them away, someone like Huntelaar would be ideal for that sort of game.
 
Plus he should be available at a knock-down price and shouldn't be unhappy at being rotated with Berbatov, unlike Tevez.
I'd be happy to see him sign, especially given that generally we create a lot of chances, and fail to put them away, someone like Huntelaar would be ideal for that sort of game.

this is what ive been trying to say all summer (and last summer too)
 
this is what ive been trying to say all summer (and last summer too)

The fear is that we would create less chances with Huntelaar in our side. He doesn't contribute alot to the overall play apart from finishing moves.
 
The fear is that we would create less chances with Huntelaar in our side. He doesn't contribute alot to the overall play apart from finishing moves.

not true

we have several players capable of creating chances

huntelaar would benefit with carrick's/scholesys long range passing as well, as he like to play off the shoulders of the defenders and get behind them
 
The fear is that we would create less chances with Huntelaar in our side. He doesn't contribute alot to the overall play apart from finishing moves.

i understand that concern, but dont think its entirely realistic, and even if Huntelaar isnt going to be showing the creativity of a Berbatov or a Rooney, he can pull his weight.
Additionally is the fact that Berbatov/Rooney can still play together and form a partnership of their own in the matches that call for it. Huntelaar simply provides an option in how to play, not an obligation.
 
But you also don't release the ball as slowly as he does with one.

Works both ways.
No it doesn't. Players with less natural talents on the ball use their football brains for different things. Huntelaar uses it to get into scoring positions in the box while not having exceptional ball skills or pace. You are doing the equivalent of claiming a player like Inzaghi isn't quick brained.
 
I think If Fergi wanted to sign any of the Madrid players, He would have been part of the Ronaldo deal. Fact that we have been paid in full, makes me think that we wont be signing any of thier rejects..
 
I think If Fergi wanted to sign any of the Madrid players, He would have been part of the Ronaldo deal. Fact that we have been paid in full, makes me think that we wont be signing any of thier rejects..

Yeah, that occurred to me too - unless SAF's original targets are all unattainable? But in that case I wouldn't expect a move for any Real rejects until the transfer deadline looms large
 
Originally Posted by kiristao
I think If Fergi wanted to sign any of the Madrid players, He would have been part of the Ronaldo deal. Fact that we have been paid in full, makes me think that we wont be signing any of thier rejects..


True but the deal was done before Tevez rejected us.


 
No it doesn't. Player with less natural talent on the ball use their football brains for different things. Huntelaar uses it to get into scoring postions in the box while not havineg exceptional ball skills or pace. You are doing the equivalent of claiming a player like Inzaghi isn't quick brained.

Not sure I'm seeing your point. Having a good footballing brain consists of more than just getting into good positions, for everyone, so while he's impressive in that area he's found lacking in many other areas that 'the footballing brain' is used, and so his footballing brain isn't very impressive.
 
not true

we have several players capable of creating chances

huntelaar would benefit with carrick's/scholesys long range passing as well, as he like to play off the shoulders of the defenders and get behind them

Maybe on Fifa.
 
Not sure I'm seeing your point. Having a good footballing brain consists of more than just getting into good positions, for everyone, so while he's impressive in that area he's found lacking in many other areas that 'the footballing brain' is used, and so his footballing brain isn't very impressive.

A number of years ago having a "football brain" required the creativity and invention of a Bergkamp or Cantona.

These days apparently everyone has a "football brain" as long as they are capable of doing one thing which required some thought. :wenger:
 
Huntelaar may not be the most hardworking player on earth but he scores plenty of goals. When AC Milan played against Liverpool, it was the laziest and most limited player on the pitch that made the difference, scoring 2 goals in a CL final. How many Manchester United players were able to do that?

Mind you I don't think that Huntelaar would fit in every game we play. There will be times when it would be wiser to stick a hardworking side with Valencia on the right, Carrick, Anderson and Fletcher in midfield, Park on the left and Rooney as the lone striker. Stating that there were times when we dominated our opponents and what we missed was someone who scored that goal. Huntelaar is a master on that. I mean god knows what would have happened if we didn't missed those chances against Barca in the first 10 minutes of the game.

Is Huntelaar my first option. Hell no. But considering that there is so little choice to choose then he is surely one of the finest options available. Let us not forget that he shouldnt cost us a lot and it would not be a tragedy if he ends up losing his place to Wellbeck and Macheda (in a distant future).
 
I'd take him for £10-12m now. He could turn out to be a bargain at such a prize. I think he would do well as long as he gets enough service (which would obviously happen).
 
Not sure I'm seeing your point. Having a good footballing brain consists of more than just getting into good positions, for everyone, so while he's impressive in that area he's found lacking in many other areas that 'the footballing brain' is used, and so his footballing brain isn't very impressive.
You don't get it simply because you think players with good football brains mostly only play like Scholes or Rooney. Which is a very wrong view to have for my money.
 
A number of years ago having a "football brain" required the creativity and invention of a Bergkamp or Cantona.
Yea. For those who imagine a football brain has creativity as its main prerequisite.

These days apparently everyone has a "football brain" as long as they are capable of doing one thing which required some thought. :wenger:
:lol: Typical. I bet you think defenders or player like Solksjaer way back when don't have footballing brains.
 
French Ligue 1 runners-up Olympique Marseille are set to launch a €13m bid for Real Madrid forward Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, according to reports.

Huntelaar moved to the Bernabeu in January from Dutch side Ajax for a fee of €20m but, with the arrival of Karim Benzema in the past week, his opportunities are likely to be limited next season, and Europe’s top clubs have been put on alert regarding his availability.

Earlier today, Goal.com reported that Los Blancos had rejected a loan offer from AC Milan for the 25-year old, but a significant cash offer could see Perez consider moving the striker on to pastures new.

Marseille have smashed their own transfer record this weekend with the capture of midfielder Lucho Gonzalez from Porto for €18m, signalling their intent to clinch silverware next season under new coach Didier Deschamps.

Now French publication La Provence states that l'OM have set their sights on Huntelaar, as they look to challenge both domestically and in the Champions League.

Much may depend on the players’ willingness to move to France.

The Dutchman had a prolific goalscoring record during his time in Holland, netting 76 times in 92 domestic matches and, despite only making his debut for Real Madrid in February, he scored 8 times to help his side clinch second place in the La Liga table.
http://goal.com/en/news/12/spain/20...ffer-13m-for-real-madrids-klaas-jan-huntelaar
 
I still think Huntelaar would score a silly amount of goals for us, if we were to sign him, and anyone who thinks "sure he would score goals but what else would he offer?" needs to stop and think for a second, because when last I checked, the way you win a football match is by scoring, not by doing clever first touches and flickons.
 
I still think Huntelaar would score a silly amount of goals for us, if we were to sign him, and anyone who thinks "sure he would score goals but what else would he offer?" needs to stop and think for a second, because when last I checked, the way you win a football match is by scoring, not by doing clever first touches and flickons.
True, but what happens when he runs into a bad patch of form?

He'll be this useless pole up front.

Even when Rooney doesn't score a lot of goals, he contributes to the buildup of other things including goals.
 
True, but what happens when he runs into a bad patch of form?

He'll be this useless pole up front.

Even when Rooney doesn't score a lot of goals, he contributes to the buildup of other things including goals.

Lets not get into this story again, because im sure its already been gone over. I would still back an out-of-form Huntelaar to bag a respectable return of goals, given the creative talent around him that we have. His career stats argue that if nothing else, he is a consistent goalscorer.
 
For what its worth, I think that given the circumstances this summer (ie, we have money!), it would have been wiser to spend £10-15m on a 25(26?)-year old Huntelaar with a great fitness record than to get in Owen on the cheap and run risks regarding his fitness.

Both are very similar types of player and either will suit us when playing, im just not sure I like the idea of having (another) injury prone striker.

Still, if SAF reckons Owens injuries are behind him and that turns out to be true then I would say he will be an excellent signing - possibly even better than Huntelaar.
 
Man United are back in the Hunt

ALEX FERGUSON is preparing to make a £20million raid for Real Madrid striker Klaas Jan Huntelaar.

The Manchester United boss had his eye on the Dutchman before he joined the La Liga side from Ajax in January.

But Huntelaar, 25, has struggled to make an impact after scoring 113 goals in 136 games in Holland.

He failed to make Real's Champions League squad.

And he has fallen further down the pecking order following the arrivals of Cristiano Ronaldo, Kaka and Karim Benzema.

Now Fergie, who had the player scouted all last year, is ready to make a new bid to land him after losing out on Benzema.

United will have to match the £20m Madrid paid for the hitman.

An Old Trafford source said: "Huntelaar is somebody we have known about for a good while. There was more than a passing interest last time out."
According to the Sun anyways, and they says this is an exclusive...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2520476/Man-United-are-back-in-the-Hunt.html

At least it has quotes :wenger:
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Waste of money. If we give Real £20 when they need to sell players we are fools.

i think twenty quid wouldnt be a bad price, to be fair!


seriously though, its a buyers market as far as the ex-madrid players are concerned. Perez is a businessman and he is going to want to cut the names off the wage bill wherever possible. For them, it is arguably a better situation to give Huntelaar away and not pay him anything for the next few years, than to have that extra name on the wage bill.

Wait it out a bit, im willing to bet Huntelaar et al wont be at Madrid by the end of the transfer window though. The longer the buyers hold out, the cheaper it will eventually be.

Real are a different monster to Chelski or Shitty - whilst the latter two have rich sugar daddies who will happily bankroll a bloated squad with a bunch of past-it players, Madrid are different. They dont have their billionaire owner funding everything, and Perez's priority seems to be on increasing their profitability, especially if they want to fund these ridiculous transfers - even the well rumoured "local banks" deals arent going to hold out forever, Real need to make a good profit to stay on top of their new galacticos era.