Keylor Navas

What do you think of Keylor Navas as David De Gea's replacement?


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So we've been after Ramos and bale but end up with a 2nd choice keeper that's surplus to requirements at Madrid .

Mmmmm righty oh !
 
I see him as the typical world class shot stopper (and nothing else). I've yet to see a goalkeeper like that succeed at United. I hope Im wrong though. Man United's success is more important than be proven right...always

Don't worry, we've got Frans Hoek for all that other stuff. :)
 
Selling De Gea last season would have been a massively stupid decision.

There was enough uncertainty at the club as it was, never mind selling one of the only positions we had a nailed on starter.

So you don't actually have any replacements in mind?

Your only considered outcome was to get De Gea to sign a new deal.

I disagree. We would have made 50m out of him and that's alot of money to bring some quality GK. Even under the current situation, we should have secured Cech whose more suited for EPL football than Navas and would give us 2 seasons to sort this issue out
 
I was pretty happy with the deal until I watched this video...



Lad looks like he couldn't catch a cold. He's surely better then Romero, mind. So thats a plus.


You could make a video about pretty much any player and make them look like a buffoon or a world beater.
 
Make excuses if you want. I didn't say getting top class players was easy but the best clubs get it done simple as that.
Modric - signed for Real 27th August. Bale to Real - 1st September. Berbatov to us - 1st September. They don't let them go at the beginning of the summer precisely because they know if they hold out they can rinse you for a bit more at the end. Navas is a good keeper, so unless you have legitimate concerns over his abilities that you want to voice, rather than just put off that Real didn't want him anymore (say hi to Sneijder, Robben and co), it's really not the end of the world.
 
I disagree. We would have made 50m out of him and that's alot of money to bring some quality GK. Even under the current situation, we should have secured Cech whose more suited for EPL football than Navas and would give us 2 seasons to sort this issue out

Cech is a shadow of his former self, whereas Navas is coming into his peak years.

It's really not that simple.

And its' questionable that we would've got £50m for him, who was buying?

If clubs got wind we were willing sellers because he wouldn't sign a new deal then they'd lowball us.
 
You could make a video about pretty much any player and make them look like a buffoon or a world beater.

Thats from one single game, not just clips of his best/worst bits.

Videos like this are far better to get a proper impression of a players highlights and weaknesses.
 
Id ask you the same thing i've asked Brwned. Was he your first choice to replace DDG?
Honestly I didn't really have a replacement in mind, possibly Lloris but then I don't rate him as highly as others do, he's prone to brainfarts. I've heard a lot about Leno but I haven't seen enough of him to form a true opinion.
 
I was pretty happy with the deal until I watched this video...



Lad looks like he couldn't catch a cold. He's surely better then Romero, mind. So thats a plus.


He's not fantastic on crosses but he's not a pure liability either. Here's one example against LvG's Dutch side. He prefers to punch rather than catch but that's true of so many keepers now. You can find literally dozens of examples of Neuer messing up on crosses. Navas isn't just a fantastic shot stopper - which is always such a strange criticism to me because that is the bulk of the work they do - but he's fantastic off his line too and composed on the ball. Even in the PL you can count the number of teams on one hand that actually cross the ball into the bag man in the middle regularly. It's just not there any more. Teams don't play with two out and out wingers and a target man up top.
 
Honestly I didn't really have a replacement in mind, possibly Lloris but then I don't rate him as highly as others do, he's prone to brainfarts. I've heard a lot about Leno but I haven't seen enough of him to form a true opinion.

fair enough
 
Modric - signed for Real 27th August. Bale to Real - 1st September. Berbatov to us - 1st September. They don't let them go at the beginning of the summer precisely because they know if they hold out they can rinse you for a bit more at the end. Navas is a good keeper, so unless you have legitimate concerns over his abilities that you want to voice, rather than just put off that Real didn't want him anymore (say hi to Sneijder, Robben and co), it's really not the end of the world.

What has the date a player signs got to do with anything though? Those deals went through. No team wants to sell their best players. I've made my point in my original post don't need to add anything to it. I'm not convinced he's the solution and I'll be happy to be proven wrong. I don't think he will turn out to be a bargain like Robben though. Madrid have got rid of a lot of rubbish over the years as well.
 
Cech is a shadow of his former self, whereas Navas is coming into his peak years.

It's really not that simple.

And its' questionable that we would've got £50m for him, who was buying?

If clubs got wind we were willing sellers because he wouldn't sign a new deal then they'd lowball us.

Barcelona and Real would have been interested. That would have caused a bidding war. Shitty would probably be involved to and Juventus have already spent crazy money for Buffon in the past and would probably be interested too. DDG is in the buyer's market because he's 1 year away towards his end of the contract + he had agreed everything with Real. That's one deadly mix
 
What has the date a player signs got to do with anything though? Those deals went through. No team wants to sell their best players. I've made my point in my original post don't need to add anything to it. I'm not convinced he's the solution and I'll be happy to be proven wrong. I don't think he will turn out to be a bargain like Robben though. Madrid have got rid of a lot of rubbish over the years as well.
Because you said in your original post that we should've signed Lloris at the start of the window. That's literally how the conversation started.
 
Barcelona and Real would have been interested. That would have caused a bidding war. Shitty would probably be involved to and Juventus have already spent crazy money for Buffon in the past and would probably be interested too. DDG is in the buyer's market because he's 1 year away towards his end of the contract + he had agreed everything with Real. That's one deadly mix

Juve couldn't afford to spend £50m on a keeper and City were hamstrung by FFP and we wouldn't have sold to them (nor would DDG have wanted to go there).

Barcelona might've but there were no noises and De Gea has always seemed set on Real.

It was always them or no one. And it made far more sense to keep him a year, get CL football back, and sell now.

My preference would even be to old on another year with all the other uncertainty, but this deal is growing on me.
 
only seen him at WC in which he impressed me. but then so did vlaar.

at least we don't have to rely on romero as our #1 GK this season.
 
Juve couldn't afford to spend £50m on a keeper and City were hamstrung by FFP and we wouldn't have sold to them (nor would DDG have wanted to go there).

Barcelona might've but there were no noises and De Gea has always seemed set on Real.

It was always them or no one. And it made far more sense to keep him a year, get CL football back, and sell now.

My preference would even be to old on another year with all the other uncertainty, but this deal is growing on me.

I doubt that Real would have had a deal sealed with DDG 2 years ago. Even if that's the case, than any interest from Barca would have made him think especially since he's a former Athletico Madrid guy. Regarding Juventus they did spend 32m for Buffon at a time when 32m were worth alot of money. They may not be as rich as United are but they can spend some real money. Dont forget last summer we were interested in Vidal so a swap + money deal was possible
 
Because you said in your original post that we should've signed Lloris at the start of the window. That's literally how the conversation started.
... or something. I'm just disappointed we haven't been lining up a replacement from the start when Utd have had so much time. I wasn't intent on us buying a player on the 1st of July if that's what you think.
 
I can hear the concerns about Navas but Lloris is really overrated.
 
He's not fantastic on crosses but he's not a pure liability either. Here's one example against LvG's Dutch side. He prefers to punch rather than catch but that's true of so many keepers now. You can find literally dozens of examples of Neuer messing up on crosses. Navas isn't just a fantastic shot stopper - which is always such a strange criticism to me because that is the bulk of the work they do - but he's fantastic off his line too and composed on the ball. Even in the PL you can count the number of teams on one hand that actually cross the ball into the bag man in the middle regularly. It's just not there any more. Teams don't play with two out and out wingers and a target man up top.

That is, somewhat, reassuring I guess.
 
Are you lot seriously bitching about the transfer fee?

De Gea wants to LEAVE. We would have had him for ONE more season, that's IT. And then the club gets ZERO euros.

Sometimes I am fecking surprised how some ppl can't see something so simple.
 
For me it's typical of him really. Acrobatic saves, excellent reflexes but when it comes to commanding, catching or dealling with crosses he struggles.

How do you think he managed to get through the entire World Cup without such an obvious flaw being exposed?

@Brwned how good is he with ball in his feet?

Quite good. Under Hoek and in a team where he sees more of the ball I fully expect it to go up another level. Definitely not something you'd call a weakness but not at de Gea's level yet. You can see a bit of it against Italy when he played as more of a sweeper keeper:



Quick off his line and crisp, accurate short passing. That's what we need. Against Greece you can see his more expansive passing too (from around 3 minutes in - stupidly long video):

 
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Like for like replacement for De Gea - a keeper who'd rather be in Madrid.
 
I'm with Brwned on this one and feeling much better about the keeper situation this season than 24 hours ago, assuming Navas really is coming.
 
How do you think he managed to get through the entire World Cup without such an obvious flaw being exposed?

How did bryan ruiz look like Ronaldinho even with his lack of effort or stamina?
It's a non question costa rica rose to the challenge and performed beyond what was expected as do alot of underdogs. Ron Vaal looked the best CB in the world in that dutch team.
Also its a world cup so teams are naturally more cautious and play it safe. Which is why he really on faced shots from distance rather than crosses or one on ones.
 
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He's not fantastic on crosses but he's not a pure liability either. Here's one example against LvG's Dutch side. He prefers to punch rather than catch but that's true of so many keepers now. You can find literally dozens of examples of Neuer messing up on crosses. Navas isn't just a fantastic shot stopper - which is always such a strange criticism to me because that is the bulk of the work they do - but he's fantastic off his line too and composed on the ball. Even in the PL you can count the number of teams on one hand that actually cross the ball into the bag man in the middle regularly. It's just not there any more. Teams don't play with two out and out wingers and a target man up top.

I also seem to remember DDG wasn't great on crosses when he first arrived, especially with the physicality of the Prem. That is something that can be worked on, as we did with DDG.
 
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