Keylor Navas
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Oh comeon it was evident that Real would take DDG. If he was so good, clubs would have bidded for him and Real would have offered us more money for DDG. In reality we're getting Real no 2. Maybe it was clumbsy for me to put him in Lindegaard's level (TBF I was referring to his role rather than talent) but still, he's a goalkeeper no Real manager saw him good enough to lead Real in long term
I'm worried about this too. It's not good. However, I said in the other thread that with Ander and Juan there, he will feel more comfortable. Plus Valencia is from South America as well, so he will be fine. We do have nice lads in the dressing room it has to be said.
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If DDG didn't want to sign what should have LVG done? Tie him and sign with his DDG's fingers?
You're seriously ignoring that Casillas - who undeniably performed worse last season - was chosen ahead of him because of dressing room politics? I guess you're just on the wind up again. We're swapping our first choice keeper for their first choice keeper. It's unquestionably a downgrade which is why they're giving us €25m on top. It's a fair deal for everyone in the circumstances. I know that doesn't fit in with the hysterical POV but it's the accurate one.
He's the tier below DDG but still a top keeper and at that price is a bit of a steal too.
Makes sense to split the two transfers, real can still sell Navas after their window closes.
Makes sense to split the two transfers, real can still sell Navas after their window closes.
Didn't you get the memo? Everything is his fault, we are a laughing stock and we've had the worst ever transfer window.
Feels like we've been served someones leftover at a fancy restaurant and everyone else is looking at us as if we weren't suppose to be there to start with.
Crap
Crap
Oh yeah, need to go with the script. We're a joke of a club and rival fans are laughing at us.
Absolutely not, but then Bayern weren't selling Neuer.
Under the circumstances it's a deal that works for us.
I also think Real were stupid not to play him when Casillas was practically throwing in opposition goals last year. Always political bullshit going on there that probably explains shite decision making like that.
What were your choices for replacement?
one good season at a low to midtable team and a decent world cup dont make you a top keeper. In the last 4 seasons he has only played around 50 times.
Decent signing, significant downgrade from David, but marked improvement over Romero. Superb reflexes, really composed and quite assertive from the back. At the very least, he could prove to be United's Ospina in terms of being a solid temporary choice until we can find a superior player to man the posts (like Cech in Arsenal's case). Hopefully we scour Europe and beyond through the season to find a suitable long term option if Navas doesn't work out as well as expected. Only thing that worries me is his relative lack of presence in the air. Will be tested early and often in the league coming over from Spain, Van Gaal and the defense should work together to help him out through the early goings.
Thanks for that. Had no idea who this guys is but he sounds decent. Good stuff.
Apparently, Navas is who LvG rates, and wanted. We got a near record for a player with one year remaining on his contract. Also, from what I understand Hoek is world class GK coach. Let's let LvG prove it now, he's put it on the line now.
Name someone who is realistically available who'd be better.
He was sensational for Levante the season before last, that much is true.
As a pure shot stopper he's fantastic, I don't doubt that. He's also got a bit of authority about him.
A better keeper than Romero in any case for my money.
As a pure shot stopper he's fantastic, I don't doubt that. He's also got a bit of authority about him.
A better keeper than Romero in any case for my money.
if this is true and we are getting almost £30m plus Navas then we've pulled off a great deal all things considered. Navas is a very good keeper who should do well here.
He looks funny. Can't wait to see him flapping at crosses all season.
The way I look at it is that we've added Navas to the squad, De Gea was already gone. Whether he's the best bet for us long term I don't know, but he'll do a good job this year I'd imagine based on past form and we've now got time to scout for a long term solution. We were clearly always holding out hope last year that De Gea would sign the contract with us, now we know that's not happening we can seriously start looking at options elsewhere, and if Navas proves he's got what it takes in the meantime then no harm done.
Costa Rican Taibi.
If reports are to be believed, DDG would cost Madrid a maximum of 20 million euros, and that is including the scenario that Navas flops here. So we have sold DDG for less than what we got him for if we adjust for inflation. An awful deal and I lay it solely at DDG and Mendes feet for fkng us over.
If Woody and the club have a shred of self respect left, they better feck Mendes and his players off and cut him off completely from our system.
Are you saying that the likes of Ancelotti would cave in to such BS? Also if Keylor is so good than why would Real not give him the first team place and forget about DDG? As said, two managers saw him as not good enough to be Real's no 1. This summer Real chased DDG and yet there were no rumors linking Keylor with another big club. Not to forget that prior to the recent rumours I cant think of anyone suggesting Keylor as a potential replacement for DDG in redcafe or elsewhere.
I love underdogs. I still believe that Van Gouw could have replaced Schmeichel in a decent way if only he was a bit younger. However there's no denying that this is an underwhelming transfer and we're riding on luck with this signing. The way we managed the DDG saga was amateur at best
At least we can move on from people pretending Romero was good enough. Of course those people will just inflate Navas.
I don't think anyone here can say how he'll do. We're just going to have to see how he adjusts and performs. Not ideal at all but that's life.
I don't think anyone here can say how he'll do. We're just going to have to see how he adjusts and performs. Not ideal at all but that's life.
At this moment in time no one. However we had 6 months to sort this out.
So is Navas going to join our squad immediately or is he playing any international matches this week??
He's a good shot stopper. But I feel we signing a goalkeeper who plays like how De Gea did in his early years with us.
He needs to adapt. Will he at 27?
He needs to adapt. Will he at 27?
While I rate Navas, and I understand DDG is Spanish and from Madrid etc, still sucks that we are basically swapping our best player for a player they don't rate (after Woodward said all that stuff about being a 'big' club etc). However I know I'm just bitter right now seeing all these departures and no world class forwards, CBs etc
Was touted as one of the best GK in La League few years ago. But then so was Begovic here.
You're going to hear Oblak, Leno or Lloris like a chorus. No chance we were getting Lloris without paying a kings ransom. Probably the other 2 as well. Ajax publicly stated multiple times they'd fleece us for Cillessen. I think there was no chance we'd get any of those for anywhere near as cheap as we got Navas and Romero. We were getting taken to the cleaners for not getting De Gea to sign to sign a new contract under SAF and Moyes. Putting this on LvG is a bit unfair. He inherited this issue, IMO.
As said, at this point in time, there's little we can do. However we've been mismanaging the situation for at least a year. We should have offered DDG a take it or leave it contract last summer. Once he refused we should have sold him for more money and brought a decent replacement for him. FFS I cant believe that while Arsenal got Cech for a steal we'll be dicking around with Real no 2.
And Begovic still cost Chelsea a pretty penny to backup a world class keeper in Courtois, mind.
A quick google search tells me he is 28 turning 29 in December.
Given the circumstances, he's the best we could've hoped for with the least hassle really.
At least he'll be an upgrade on Romero, who pretty much shits himself every time the ball comes near him, and manages to collectively raise everyone's blood pressure any time the opposition attack.
At least he'll be an upgrade on Romero, who pretty much shits himself every time the ball comes near him, and manages to collectively raise everyone's blood pressure any time the opposition attack.
No, no Costa Rican Bosnich! Am I right?
Yes. Absolutely. If you ask the Madrid fans they'll say the same. The only reason you're ignoring that is because it doesn't fit your narrative. That's pretty obvious, Dev.
Mourinho dropped him and it created a huge amount of drama, a rift between the Spanish players and himself and ultimately played a part in him leaving. Ancelotti is much less confrontational and put up with Berlusconi's nonsense for ages too. That's part of the reason why Ancelotti was brought in - he's very good at working with what he's been given rather than rigidly sticking to what he wants.
Florentino Perez's entire election strategy is around filling the team with superstars and the best Spanish talent. De Gea is both. The only keeper he wouldn't have thrown out for De Gea is Neuer...and even then I'm not so sure. You could apply the same logic to why they brought in James instead of Di Maria. He definitely wasn't needed - and they obviously didn't improve as a team because of it - but he was the next big superstar and Perez needed it.
It's pretty clear you know nothing about Navas other than he was the "Madrid #2" so your entire argument is based on pretty much nothing. If he'd come straight from Levante having performed as the best keeper in La Liga you'd be cautiously optimistic but here you're blinded by the "Madrid #2" narrative and the fact you haven't seen much of him makes it impossible for you to see him any other way.
We could have 2 good no. 2 Gk then. Progress.
While Navas isn't one the same level as de Gea, he's well above anything that Romero has to offer. He'll only get better under Hoek.
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