Kevin Pietersen

Would be a big loss for English team. Still their best batsman and is a real match winner.
 
And why is arrogance such a bad thing? I like someone who speaks his mind and knows that he's a good sportsman, instead of the sycophantic ones who put it all down to the "crowd" their "team mates," or better yet "God" for their talent. I guess it's well documented that the British don't like a winner
 
I think England will struggle to replace KP. He is the X factor in their line up. Strauss, Cook, Bell and Trott, all provide solidarity much needed in test arena. But they don't have that something extra he does. None of them could have played the same knock he did in the last test.
 
Whats all this fuss then?

England players innocent in Twitter send-up

England players innocent in Twitter send-up
Documentation seen by ESPNcricinfo proves that the parody Twitter account @KevPietersen24 is not managed by a player despite Pietersen's suspicions to the contrary

George Dobell

August 8, 2012


Kevin Pietersen's suspicions that a parody Twitter feed mocking him comes from the England dressing room are unfounded.

Documentation seen by ESPNcricinfo proves that the parody twitter account @KevPietersen24 is not managed by a player. While it is true that the individual behind it knows some England players quite well, it would be misleading to suggest they are being fed information or have an agenda other than humour. None of the England players knows who is behind the account.

Those behind the account are revelling in their notoriety. "You know you're a genius when you are getting column inches during the Olympics," one tweet said. "KP tried scoring hundreds but this is far easier." They later assured their followers that no England player was involved.

Information that no England player is involved in the account should end suggestions that have been floated that an England player could potentially be guilty of workplace bullying.

For all that, perhaps the episode does highlight the uncomfortable relationship between Pietersen and several senior England players that has built up in the over the last few years and that can now no longer be explained away by routine expressions of support.

The fact that Pietersen thought the account, which lampoons his sometimes self-aggrandising comments, might be the work of team mates speaks volumes of his increasing isolation within the squad.

Pietersen is understood to have instructed lawyers to shut down the account and, after a period of suspension, it was reactivated with a new avatar that no longer bore Pietersen's image.

It is telling, too, that the account has been followed by several England players, including Matt Prior, James Taylor, Graeme Swann, Graham Onions and Tim Bresnan, though Taylor has recently 'unfollowed.' While that might support the view that some in the dressing room are sharing a joke at Pietersen's expense, it is worth noting that even Pietersen himself has retweeted some comments made by the feed.

The ECB will not and cannot act against the parody account. While they did successfully instruct lawyers to act against a spoof Ian Bell account in 2009, the @KevPietersen24 feed is felt to be an obvious parody and is felt to have breached no law or Twitter regulation.

Some might conclude that Pietersen's somewhat heavy-handed response to it betrays a certain humourlessness that may be one of the reasons he finds himself an increasingly isolated figure in the England dressing room. His spells at Natal, Hampshire and Nottinghamshire also all ended under something of a cloud.

Pietersen is far from the only player to inspire a parody twitter account. Andrew Strauss, the England captain, has one. The difference in those cases is that the individuals have tended to laugh along with the joke or, in the case of Strauss, rise above them.

But such is Pietersen's state of mind that he has added the Twitter account to a list of the injustices that he must face. Following the leaks about his contract talks and the fine for his own Twitter comments about Nick Knight, this issue underlines his increasing discomfort within the England set-up.

As he said in Monday's bizarre press conference "It's not easy being me." While such comments are easy to mock the fact is that, wherever the fault may lie, there is a real danger than unless there is a concerted effort by all concerned to reintegrate Pietersen, he may well drift away forever, convincing himself as he turns to a life on the T20 circuit that he has been wronged.

News that he will not face disciplinary charges from the ECB as a result of his press conference at the end of the Headingley Test will come as scant relief.

Stuart Broad, England's pace bowler, was dismissive of Pietersen's concerns when he spoke to Sky Sports News.

"If there is a problem, it is important it gets sorted and we take the field at Lord's with 11 guys who want to win for England," he said.

"With the rules, when we get to the ground we hand our phone in at 8am and get it back at 8pm. It would take a bit of genius to tweet from the wicket. It is not a major problem. It is a bit of fun for whoever is doing it and I don't think it is as big a story as the papers are making out.

"We spend virtually every day together, it is thoroughly enjoyable, we have a laugh. There is not a better working environment to go into. You get out of bed to go and play with your mates for your country. It is one of the biggest honours you could ever have and within that changing room everyone values that."

Perhaps the absurdity of the episode was perhaps best highlighted when a parody of Richie Benaud tweeted: "These parody accounts are a nuisance and damaging the game I love. RB." It was a parody parodying a parody. We live in confusing times.
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Can't see twitter at work put apparently it's a parody account and Pietersen's majorly pissed about it per the article.

Anything funny?
 
Red-Indian said:
Whats all this fuss then?

England players innocent in Twitter send-up



Can't see twitter at work put apparently it's a parody account and Pietersen's majorly pissed about it per the article.

Anything funny?
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Yeah, it's quality. Not many single hysterical tweets but it's pretty consistently funny. Especially if reading whilst imagining KP's Sith Ifrican iccent.
 
Hmm...I'll go home and have a look.

Would be a pity if Pietersen's lost to the international game. Playing in farcical IPL 20-20 games is a real waste of his talent. It's been a pleasure having Gayle back playing for the Windies.
 
Turns out he was sending texts to the SA team during the test match.

Kevin Pietersen has risked further damaging his relationship with England after it emerged he sent text messages to members of the South Africa team during the Headingley Test.
News of his fraternisation with the tourists will infuriate coach Andy Flower and captain Andrew Strauss as they attempt to avoid yet more distractions ahead of next week’s third Test at Lord’s.
The text messages — reportedly sent to fast bowler Dale Steyn and wicketkeeper AB de Villiers — contained ‘less than flattering comments’ about Strauss and his team-mates.
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South Africa’s manager Dr Mohammed Moosajee attempted to play down the matter, telling Sportsmail: ‘I can confirm that text messages were sent but they contained friendly banter between guys who have played with each other in the past.’

Steyn is a former team-mate of Pietersen at Indian Premier League franchise Royal Challengers Bangalore, while De Villiers has played for Delhi Daredevils, Pietersen’s current IPL side.
Both men are said to be embarrassed that Pietersen — who has complained of dressing-room ‘politics’ and warned he could quit international cricket after the Lord’s Test — made contact with them during a game England needed to win to keep alive hopes of victory in the three-match series.

The texts followed an incident on the opening morning of the Headingley Test, when Pietersen upset team-mates by mingling with the South Africa players as both sides warmed up on the outfield before play.
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cr...African-rivals-second-Test.html#ixzz238Dx04Uv
 
rofl at him going after that parody account and getting it closed. #KPgenius will forever live in memory.
 
Comes out of retirement in the limited overs formats and commits to the test team as well..
 
I reckon KP is going to stick around until after the back to back ashes, then he will sign up for the IPL full time.
 
DixieDean said:
I reckon KP is going to stick around until after the back to back ashes, then he will sign up for the IPL full time.
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Yeah, probably, might do 2015 world cup as well.
 
He's dropped for the final test. Big call from England, but I suppose they're tired of KP's antics and want to move on from him.

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@richard_conway: ECB say they needed confirmation from Pietersen that no derogatory texts were sent to South African team: "..this has not been forthcoming."
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He was at best naive to imagine that word of those tweets wouldn't leak out.

Better team unity will hopefully improve our chances of victory in the final test.
 
KP is a really good player but he's always had a 'victim' mentality. That's why he left SA in the first place.
 
Right decision from England.

What a cock Kevin Pietersen is if he went around sending derogatory messages about Strauss/Flower to his opposition, during the match. There's like 3 levels of cuntishness in this. Strauss, in particular, always come across as a top guy.
 
He's a great player but I think he needs to be shown adulation for him to perform at his best. The part of the reason why he loves IPL so much(along with the huge stacks of money, ofcourse) is that people in Delhi absolutely love him. In many matches in the last season whole of the stadium was chanting KP, KP when he was batting.
 
SA played a blinder in this. Got the best player in the opposing team dropped. KM is prolly right as well. Kp defo has the Scouse victim complex.
 
crappycraperson said:
SA played a blinder in this. Got the best player in the opposing team dropped. KM is prolly right as well. Kp defo has the Scouse victim complex.
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I don't see how it's SA's that caused this. He brought on himself. He got himself dropped due his own antics. The SA team manager even said they consider the texts as just banter and didn't make too much of it. The ECB decided on their own to drop KP due his actions, not that of the SA team.

And like I said, Kevin Pietersen always plays the victim card. It's never him. It's always everyone else. He needs the spot light. I've little to no respect for him. He falls into the same category for me as those that ran away from SA because 'blacks' were marginalizing them.
 
Stretch said:
I don't see how it's SA's that caused this. He brought on himself. He got himself dropped due his own antics. The SA team manager even said they consider the texts as just banter and didn't make too much of it. The ECB decided on their own to drop KP due his actions, not that of the SA team.

And like I said, Kevin Pietersen always plays the victim card. It's never him. It's always everyone else. He needs the spot light. I've little to no respect for him. He falls into the same category for me as those that ran away from SA because 'blacks' were marginalizing them.
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There were only two parties which knew of these texts. SA players and KP. I doubt KP leaked the text story himself very much so it was the SA side. They did nothing wrong, they knew there was trouble there so they just gave it another nudge which KP offered them on plate.
 
KP is doing himself no favours by having his mate Piers Morgan sticking up for him.
 
Anyone else read the posts on the Guardian by some random guy who worked out who the guy behind the satirical account was?
 
zing said:
Anyone else read the posts on the Guardian by some random guy who worked out who the guy behind the satirical account was?
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It's been confirmed that it was run by Richard Bailey. A Friend of Broad and Swann/
 
What is it about Morgan and KP? It's coming across really weird. Does he have shares in pietersen's management company or something? I finally took the step of unfollowing the cretin, he was too much to cope with.
 
Stuart Broad said; "Following last night's statement by Mr Richard Bailey that he was responsible for creating a parody Twitter account in Kevin Pietersen's name, I would like to confirm that I had no involvement in this whatsoever.
"I met with the Managing Director, England Cricket, Hugh Morris this morning and assured him that I did not play any role in the creation of this account or provide Mr Bailey with any information regarding Kevin Pietersen or the England team.
"As has been widely reported Mr Bailey is a friend of mine, but we had no conversations regarding this issue at all and I am pleased that he has now decided to close the parody account down. "

Yeah, sure! Your friend never mentioned he was running a parody account making mickey out of one of your team mates!
 
Heh, Broad is lying there.
 
KM said:
It's been confirmed that it was run by Richard Bailey. A Friend of Broad and Swann/
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Yea, I read it in the Guardian comments section. Thought it was the commenter doing some bit of sleuthing, but didn't realize it was all over the Telegraph, Cricinfo, etc..
 
Bit immature this. Swann and Broad need to grow up. You'd think Broad would pause and think "hang on, i'm one of the captains of this English side.."..

Swann with his comments in the column he writes.. pretty cheap
 
KM said:
Heh, Broad is lying there.
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Obvious. If a friend of mine was doing the same thing to a colleague of mine, he knows I am not too keen about, there is no way he won't tell me about it. It also looks close to certain that Broad and few others were probably feeding him some info.

ECB are showing clear double standards but KP brought it all on himself. He could not lie about the texts since evidence was there.

Cricinfo are also being terribly biased about the whole thing IMO. They have oddly given Broad and others English players the clean chit without using any common sense. A lot of their staff were desperate to elevate the current English side with the great Oz one of last decade and seem to be still clinging to that fantasy.
 
I don't like either of them, suspect they've not got the balls to say that stuff to his face. Funnily enough, I always felt it was Swann... who said you can't judge a book...
 
crappycraperson said:
Obvious. If a friend of mine was doing the same thing to a colleague of mine, he knows I am not too keen about, there is no way he won't tell me about it. It also looks close to certain that Broad and few others were probably feeding him some info.

ECB are showing clear double standards but KP brought it all on himself. He could not lie about the texts since evidence was there.

Cricinfo are also being terribly biased about the whole thing IMO. They have oddly given Broad and others English players the clean chit without using any common sense. A lot of their staff were desperate to elevate the current English side with the great Oz one of last decade and seem to be still clinging to that fantasy.
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Bob Willis decided the bowling attack was on par with the great Windies' quartet. Made me cringe.
 
zing said:
Bit immature this. Swann and Broad need to grow up. You'd think Broad would pause and think "hang on, i'm one of the captains of this English side.."..

Swann with his comments in the column he writes.. pretty cheap
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It's been clear from day one Broad is a cock. Swann just does not get along with KP it seems.

In any case, a grand shame, KP is one the few exciting cricketers left in a game already struggling to produce characters to sway the crowd. If he has to retire due to all this rubbish then cricket will lose along with him as well.
 
Spoony Kobayashi said:
Bob Willis decided the bowling attack was on par with the great Windies' quartet. Made me cringe.
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The way Pak mauled England, it was clear they were no where near close to the best test sides of all time. Even current SA side don't make the grade or get close to it.
 
I think Pietersen comes across bad in the whole thing. What was the big deal with the parody account anyway? He retweeted it at least once, so it can't have bothered him that much.
 
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