By these "many people", you mean the ones who tune in once every four years for the Ashes....and even then no one was that bad about Panesar, jesus most people still considered him a fluke when he was doing decent.
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By these "many people", you mean the ones who tune in once every four years for the Ashes....and even then no one was that bad about Panesar, jesus most people still considered him a fluke when he was doing decent.
Yeah looks like he has been dropped for the ODI and T20s, presumably so he can have some 4 day cricket behind him before the team flies out to Australia. That to be honest is more important than a series which may end up getting called off.
On the BBC Website now!
He's an idiot for tweeting it but it took them at least 2 or 3 hours to notice. That's poor IMO.
I think KP's relationship with the ECB and some of the players in the squad has been strained since his whole captaincy debacle. Announcing he's been dropped on Twitter and saying 'it's a feck up' is hardly the best thing to do.
Smith was right about some of the things said about KP. He's a snide little bugger who think he's a rockstar...that would be fine if you actually had the talent to back up all that brash talk. But KP's been poor. He should learn to shut up and prove his doubters wrong with his bat rather then his mouth, and his twitter page.
No. They didn't. I remember watching an England test at a time that Monty had one of the best strikerates in the world and these people (so ex-England players) were already suggesting how many wickets he would take at the current rate. They were extrapolating and coming up with some magical figures even though it was pretty clear even then that Monty had very little variation and provided no support either with the bat or in the field.
I think Monty was a feel good story they all wanted to come good. Indian bloke, representing England, a spinner at that, quiet, polite, and very humble. I remember Channel 9 in Australia being very critical of him, and saying he was decent, but had to add a lot more to his game to survive in the test arena
Right, so my point is that every country will have a player that does well, that stands out, and as such the commentators, the media pundits will hype him up, make him seam like he's the shining light.
And that's happened with KP. He was a good player with SA...but he didn't get his chances there. He splits, comes to England with a point to prove, does well and suddenly people are hearing he's one of the best to every play the game.
I said earlier that if you think KP is the best english talent in your lifetime then you're not very old. And turns out the poster is a young in...i don't blame someone who's 20, and probably only started to watch the game a few years ago to think KP is the best and all of that.
He should pick up a Wisden. Talk to someone over the age of 50 and ask them who the best English batsmen is. I'm sure they won't have KP on their top 10 list (and rightly so).
And that's happened with KP. He was a good player with SA...but he didn't get his chances there. He splits, comes to England with a point to prove, does well and suddenly people are hearing he's one of the best to every play the game.
I said earlier that if you think KP is the best english talent in your lifetime then you're not very old. And turns out the poster is a young in...i don't blame someone who's 20, and probably only started to watch the game a few years ago to think KP is the best and all of that.
He should pick up a Wisden. Talk to someone over the age of 50 and ask them who the best English batsmen is. I'm sure they won't have KP on their top 10 list (and rightly so).
Well the whole gang on SkySports never really seemed to like him that much, they seemed to be semi-mocking him half the time(a couple seemed more sympathetic). They were probably only showing that stat for the sake of showing a "what if" scenario, I don't think a single one of them ever believed he'd go over 300 wickets.
I know someone who turned 50 this year(he's going to Australia for the Ashes as his late present/his present to his son for Christmas), has been following the Sport from what I can gather since he was a kid, and highly rates Pietersen. Top 10 all-time, sure he might not make that list technically, but you can't really compare Hobbs' era to Pietersen's. I think it's fair to say he's one of the best of the past 40 years or so
fecking hell
I wouldn't expect someone who probably started watching cricket in the 90's to understand. But carry on like you know better.
What's funny?
Got to give him credit for his desire to play himself into form
Pietersen's ridiculously over-rated. You English lot wouldn't know what a good batsman was if one came to you and smacked you in the face with a groin guard.
That said, he's obviously talented. Just needs to find his touch. He'll be nowhere near the greats though. Ever.
That said, he's obviously talented. Just needs to find his touch. He'll be nowhere near the greats though. Ever.
I thought he was one of the top 10 batsmen in history; what's he doing playing for no namers to try and get back into his team?
Who do you support?
I do agree that he won't be as good as the greats, but who in modern cricket will be?
Plus its no great surprise that he has gone back to his former team to get some form
Time to bump this, although a bit belated.
Still so overrated...
Still so overrated...
People call him a great batsmen, i never bought it and still don't. He is a good enough player that blows hot and cold and is a good striker of the ball on form.
He's obviously not a GREAT batsmen, but he is a very good player. He has sucked balls against Pakistan - but he averaged 70.3 in his last 12 test matches.
His ODI record on the other hand if you're English is a worry - he is going backwards, and at great knots.
His ODI record on the other hand if you're English is a worry - he is going backwards, and at great knots.
Solid batsman, but no better than Damien Martyn was for Australia 'even then I give Marto's pure sex batting style' the nod over KP'eeeeeeeeeeeeee'
I've seen alot better batsman and some of the comments earlier in this thread are embarrassing. Most dangerous batsman? Please, the likes of Gilchrist, Richards and Sehwag say otherwise.
Also UJ's list severely underrates the success of Alan Border. Absolutely cracking cricketer, that is up there with the very best to ever play the game. He was Australia's Keano in the mid 80's early 90's.
I've seen alot better batsman and some of the comments earlier in this thread are embarrassing. Most dangerous batsman? Please, the likes of Gilchrist, Richards and Sehwag say otherwise.
Also UJ's list severely underrates the success of Alan Border. Absolutely cracking cricketer, that is up there with the very best to ever play the game. He was Australia's Keano in the mid 80's early 90's.
Very talented batsman. Really thought he'd go on and become the mainstay of your lineup but has been very inconsistent. Injuries havent been kind to him either. Had the talent i feel, that much was never in doubt, never really made the best of it.
Funnily enough his ratings have remained around the 700 mark for three years.
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He peaked in 06/07. He's a strange one...I've seen him bash Murali and Warne to all parts...but he's a shadow thesedays. I think he had the potential...in fact still does to be a great player.
He's been much better recently but what an arrogant twat he is.
What do you say?
Thanks for the runs but now go off & make your millions in the IPL etc & good luck!
feck of Pietersen you arrogant overrated flat track bully.
What do you say?
Thanks for the runs but now go off & make your millions in the IPL etc & good luck!
feck of Pietersen you arrogant overrated flat track bully.
I like him and love this fake twitter even more - https://twitter.com/KevPietersen24
One of the few fake accounts that consistently makes me laugh.
One of the few fake accounts that consistently makes me laugh.
dont blame him, hes not english after all. I'd certainly try and cash in on the IPL. Flat track bully, didnt he just score a ton and a half against SA?
Did you hear his 'poor me' interview? the ECB are mean to me etc?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/19138968
Can't say I like the man, but shut the feck up & show us on the pitch, like you did in the Test Match.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/19138968
Can't say I like the man, but shut the feck up & show us on the pitch, like you did in the Test Match.
He is full of himself. Get rid!
Some people you just need to make room for, Pietersen is arrogant but the ECB have IMO done him dirty twice with politics, no reason for this to all be public.
He wants to earn big money, good luck to him...he's not the only player is he? New Zealand will lose a couple of players to the IPL forcing them to miss out on the England series. In read somewhere that Dhoni will be earning $42m over the next couple of years. Now, that, is insane.
Wotcher Spoony. How're things?
Why didn't you put your name in for the Cricket draft?
Why didn't you put your name in for the Cricket draft?
Quality player will be missed by the England team quite a bit.
Less than 10% of that will be from the IPL.
That's mainly from endorsements. In terms of salary, crickets still earn pretty less compared to many other sportsmen.
Yohan Blake said he wants to play in the IPL..
Not bad, thanks. Yourself? And I can't be arsed.
How much do top earners earn? I suspect if the IPL was year long a la football, players would earn football amounts. Anyway, off topic, but it's about time cricketers started looking like proper sportsmen/ athletes. The games littered with fat cnuts.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/video_audio/576046.html
His news conference, pretty interesting viewing. I imagine there's been a breakdown in his relationship with Strauss, but that's pure speculation.
I think that England need him, he is the X-factor.
His news conference, pretty interesting viewing. I imagine there's been a breakdown in his relationship with Strauss, but that's pure speculation.
I think that England need him, he is the X-factor.
Maybe he'll come back to play for SA.
He was getting slated on the radio this morning.