Kevin De Bruyne

Kevin just said few days ago that he want’s to stay here long term. We just dont let our best players go. He’s going to sign a better contract before next summer.
 
I’d be fuming if i was a Chelsea fan, De Bruyne and Salah (even Lukaku to an extent), 2 of the best players in the Premier League this season, sold by Jose Mourinho.
 
I’d be fuming if i was a Chelsea fan, De Bruyne and Salah (even Lukaku to an extent), 2 of the best players in the Premier League this season, sold by Jose Mourinho.
Yes and no. Chelsea were just in this weird situation where they couldn't promise these players consistent minutes because that 14/15 side was doing very well in the PL.
 
What winds me up about this guy is not just he's a brilliant player playing for them but he's got a moody competitive edge he channels in the right way.
 
Yes and no. Chelsea were just in this weird situation where they couldn't promise these players consistent minutes because that 14/15 side was doing very well in the PL.

They wasn't getting 'any' minutes though, people can sugar coat it all they want, it doesn't bode well on Jose Mourinho.

I would certainly look at that if i was a young footballer playing under Mourinho now and in the future.
 
Xavi used to have distance covered numbers like that when he played for Pep.
It's the playing style. De Bruyne probably burns less energy in any single game than Alexis, despite running 3-4 kms more

Btw, shades of Kaka. Lacks the turn of pace but everything else is the same. Might even be a better passer
 
If he keeps performing like that, he will win individual awards. I'm not saying he will break the duopoly or that Neymar and Hazard aren't the favorites to do it, but all KDB needs is a fantastic season and a bit of luck.

I think he is more consistent than Hazard, KDB produces every match.
 
If he keeps performing like that, he will win individual awards. I'm not saying he will break the duopoly or that Neymar and Hazard aren't the favorites to do it, but all KDB needs is a fantastic season and a bit of luck.

I think he is more consistent than Hazard, KDB produces every match.

I don't think he's far off it now. He keeps this form going and I'll be shocked if he's not in the top three next time around.
 
No they didn't @Bojan11, Aguero is and has always been a miles better player than Benzema.

Saying otherwise is just playing plain dumb.

Rubbish... Aguero might be a better goalscorer than Benzema, which really says feck all since Real Madrid's primarily goalscorer (Cristiano Ronaldo) also happens to be the best player in his generation alongside Messi. Benzema's all-round ability is definitely better than Aguero who's just there to put the ball behind in the net as a pure #9.


No it’s true dear. Ancelotti, Mourinho and Zidane tend to agree. I think I rate their opinion rather than @Regulus Arcturus Black.

Benzema is a unselfish player which fits in with Ronaldo who is selfish as you can get. He sacrificed himself just like Rooney was doing for Ronaldo. Aguero is selfish too and I’m not sure him and Ronaldo would have been able to play together.

This isn’t FM you know. Madrid won three champions league with Benzema as their striker @Regulus Arcturus Black thats more than our club has managed in the history @Regulus Arcturus Black. So I’m sure Benzema was doing something right. Yeah he’s been a donkey this season.

Yeah, Benzema's goalscoring form in LaLiga might be shite currently but it's true for CR7 as well rn.

We're at December and they have scored a grand total of 2 goals and 4 goals respectively.

Anyway... people don't realize that Benzema is ridiculously good in his F9-role.

The Frenchman is a much better version of Firmino who does the same job at Liverpool.

Mané and (especially) Salah have greatly benefited from the Brazilian's work on the field.


Every year I wonder how a player like Benzema could be starting games together with world class players like Ronaldo, Kroos, Marcelo, Isco, etc. And every year he surprises me. He is a fantastic team player. Agüero is probably a much better player in most teams, but in RM Benzema fits perfectly. And the results have been great.

Eh... Because Benzema is a world class player himself who has proved himself as a first teamer with different managers for years. The guy is currently UCL's 5th highest top scorer ever & RM's 7th highest top scorer ever (without taking penalties + free kicks) despite always being the 3rd attacking fiddle behind Bale and CR7 who takes more shots per game than him.

And yes, Benzema (when he's in-form) is comfortably a superior player than Aguero lol.
 
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He's been flawless. The way he responded to that horrific challenge by Alli yesterday was superb. Mentality there is first class.
 
Doing bits at the moment isn't he?! Class player. Some of his passes yesterday were unreal, he must have created at least 5 clear cut chances for them against Spurs.
 
Here we go....Jose never plays youth....
Don’t know about that. But he didn’t give De Bruyne a fair shot, which even at the time was ridiculous. People on here act if he was some nobody who suddenly started playing football at City. De Bruyne was already a fantastic player at Bremen. Deciding not to keep him was always a terrible decision.
 
It's the playing style. De Bruyne probably burns less energy in any single game than Alexis, despite running 3-4 kms more

Btw, shades of Kaka. Lacks the turn of pace but everything else is the same. Might even be a better passer
Kaka is an interesting comparison, never really considered it before now. Kaka used to drive at defences far more than De Bruyne ever has, he is far more reliant on his weight of pass, but he has definitely started to add it to his game as well. Yesterday he did it countless times. I don’t think he’ll ever get quite match Kaka in that aspect but he has everything else.

What a player by the way.

 
Pep has always played a style that was very reliant of pace and stamina, besides technical quality. When you look at our team there are plenty of players there who simply have very high athleticism and who were attracted with that in mind. Even before Pep we had a team that was more orriented towards pace and technique than say strenght or aerial abbilety. Any team can be sellective as to the players that it attracks so to create a certain team profile and city's typically was much about being a fast counter team. Just looking at our strikers they tend to be the fast nimble kind more than the heavy type like a targetman. Must it be surprizing then that when a team was build with atheticism in mind that their players run so much? Bayern was similar to this imho, more oriented towards athleticism and stamina than the barca tiki taka style of technical play.
 
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Say what you really mean then. What are you afraid of ? We may have players who are doping too who knows ?

Pep was a doper and while other high profile players who were caught with high nandrolone levels at the time in serie A accepted the punishment and went on with their careers, he tried to do everything in his power to tell the world he isn't one and now he isn't one. Great manager, amazing footballing brain, but disgusting person and why should it be forgotten?
 
Pep was a doper and while other high profile players who were caught with high nandrolone levels at the time in serie A accepted the punishment and went on with their careers, he tried to do everything in his power to tell the world he isn't one and now he isn't one. Great manager, amazing footballing brain, but disgusting person and why should it be forgotten?
It shouldn't be forgotten but how is it relevant to him being a coach other than implying his players are also doping ? I'm just saying everyone should be under suspicion at the top level, whether the coach is a previous cheat as a player or not.
 
Pogba might have something to say on this subject. Certainly in terms of the influence that both players have on their respective teams, Pogba would be superior in that regard.
Pogba hasn't performed in big games like de bruyne has so it's clear who is better right now.
 
Yeah let's buy World Peace while we are at it.

Alright, I'll indulge you, just for a moment.

How easy was it to prise RvP away from Arsenal? An actual proper football team with history and success? And Matic, from Chelsea, fresh from winning the league?

Do you think KdB dreamt of playing for City?

I doubt he would think twice if he was offered the opportunity of moving to Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern Munich, Juventus, or even little old United. It would just be a question of agreeing a, considerable, transfer fee.
 
Eh... Because Benzema is a world class player himself who has proved himself as a first teamer with different managers for years. The guy is currently UCL's 5th highest top scorer ever & RM's 7th highest top scorer ever (without taking penalties + free kicks) despite always being the 3rd attacking fiddle behind Bale and CR7 who takes more shots per game than him.

And yes, Benzema (when he's in-form) is comfortably a superior player than Aguero lol.
You did not understand me. This was my way of saying that he is a fantastic player. I am always very impressed with him. Benzema and ronaldo seem to have found a great way to work now that Ronaldo more and more slips in to CF position.
 
Alright, I'll indulge you, just for a moment.

How easy was it to prise RvP away from Arsenal? An actual proper football team with history and success? And Matic, from Chelsea, fresh from winning the league?

Do you think KdB dreamt of playing for City?

I doubt he would think twice if he was offered the opportunity of moving to Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern Munich, Juventus, or even little old United. It would just be a question of agreeing a, considerable, transfer fee.

Arsenal needed the money following the move to their new stadium. RVP was relatively easy to sign for that reason.

I agree with you, though. Should the likes of Real, Barca etc come calling for his services he'd most likely jump ship.
 
Arsenal needed the money following the move to their new stadium. RVP was relatively easy to sign for that reason.

I agree with you, though. Should the likes of Real, Barca etc come calling for his services he'd most likely jump ship.

He owes City nothing, he's only in his 3rd season there, it's quite clearly a stepping stone to a proper club.
 
Here we go....Jose never plays youth....

What? I'm not saying Jose doesn't play youth, I'm questioning his management 'developing' youth.

Jose's main quality's for me is getting the very best out of average players, making them feel like they are better than they are and working with already established players, what Jose isn't known for is turning youth into stars.

I'm not Martial's biggest fan, but a few posters on here go on about Jose's management of him and when you look at Salah/De Bruyne/Lukaku as youngsters at Chelsea (all sold) Jose's management in this area rightfully deserves to be put under the microscope.
 
Alright, I'll indulge you, just for a moment.

How easy was it to prise RvP away from Arsenal? An actual proper football team with history and success? And Matic, from Chelsea, fresh from winning the league?

Do you think KdB dreamt of playing for City?

I doubt he would think twice if he was offered the opportunity of moving to Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern Munich, Juventus, or even little old United. It would just be a question of agreeing a, considerable, transfer fee.
I doubt he'll leave City as long as Guardiola is the manager there. No matter what club comes calling.
 
Absolutely fair to say that De Bruyne has been the best player in the league so far. Although performance level is not identical with individual quality as such, as it depends on team performance and tactical aspects as well as the player himself.

I'm sure Pogba and Hazard (both impressive so far) playing in an offensive machine like City would play one level above their current displays too. All of them are roughly the same quality to me, each in his own way, with the level of their teams currently making the main difference.
 
He's rarely been fit for most of them to be fair. Those that he has been fit for, he's been deployed in a system where it doesn't suit his qualities.
He wa fit last season and poor in most of them. Has it all to prove in this respect. Can't even see how he's ahead of the likes of Sanchez who have been top class in this league year after year. He has the potential though.
 
I also doubt KDB would leave city, for various reasons:

- Pep: his improvement under Pep is why we're even talking about a potential transfer to Barca or Real Madrid
- Language: KDB is multilingual like any Belgian, but doesn't speak Spanish
- Climate: One might wonder why anyone wouldn't prefer Spain in that regard, but if running a lot of kilometers is part of your game it doesn't get easier to do it in average 30 degrees celsius. When i played as a winger myself i much preferred our temperate climate over a baking sun
- friends around: He has Comps with him at city, and the vast majority of Belgian NT players play in England, besides that he seems happy with his team
- Money: there ain't a real difference between city and these teams in that regard, he can get just as much at city
- Stature: Barca and Real Madrid might be the historical top, but City is definitely on the rise and might soon challenge those teams for top spot.
- CL hopes: city might win it, if they do why would KDB still regard Barca or RM a step up?

Most of all he seems to feel fine for various reasons at City and moving would involve some risk, whereas looking at where city is heading towards the future it's even questionable if Barca or RM would be such a good choice long term.
 
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Alright, I'll indulge you, just for a moment.

Do you think KdB dreamt of playing for City?

I doubt he would think twice if he was offered the opportunity of moving to Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern Munich, Juventus, or even little old United. It would just be a question of agreeing a, considerable, transfer fee.

This is what he said in November, there's no reason for him to leave when he's the face of the club.

“I like it here, it is the perfect environment and since I came here there has been a lot of trust in me. I like the project they are doing from the moment I came here.

“There was an older team (when I first arrived), they did a lot of transfers, a lot of young people, they are building for the future.

“I like the project and I am really happy here and I see myself being a long time here.”
 
Pogba might have something to say on this subject. Certainly in terms of the influence that both players have on their respective teams, Pogba would be superior in that regard.
Pogba doesn’t get a say on that so far this season.
 
He wa fit last season and poor in most of them. Has it all to prove in this respect. Can't even see how he's ahead of the likes of Sanchez who have been top class in this league year after year. He has the potential though.

Most of them? He was only really poor in the Liverpool games. It's seems to be seen as the truth because people keep repeating it.
KDB was poor in both games against us in his first season and wasn't much good in the derby, his excellent game in the 2-1 at Old Trafford last season seems to have banished his bad ones from memory.
 
This is what he said in November, there's no reason for him to leave when he's the face of the club.

“I like it here, it is the perfect environment and since I came here there has been a lot of trust in me. I like the project they are doing from the moment I came here.

“There was an older team (when I first arrived), they did a lot of transfers, a lot of young people, they are building for the future.

“I like the project and I am really happy here and I see myself being a long time here.”

That a square headed ginger is the face of the club speaks volumes in itself.

Footballers say a lot of things and the vast majorty of it should be taken with a pinch of salt. These lads are educated in the ways of Public Relations don't forget - he's hardly going to come out and say something like "I hate being an essentiall cog in our billionaire owners latest pet project. I Can't wait to leave for a proper football club whom harbour integrity and honour above all else"

Pogba doesn’t get a say on that so far this season.

How so?
 
Ronaldo has scored goals with his left foot that De Bruyne has never scored period.



I say he's scored most of his goals in the box with his left and you post a video with most of them being in the box as evidence of what exactly? Thanks for proving my point.

In the last few weeks alone KDB scored the winner vs Chelsea a screamer vs Leicester and hit the woodwork vs Napoli all with his left.

Also being two footed is about more than finishing, just look at his highlights from vs us or Spurs and see some of the passing with his left.

Ronaldo as a teenager scored a 30 yard screamer with his left foot. Its not even close.


Probably never saw Pavel.

I'm in my 30s so I saw plenty of him.
 
Alright, I'll indulge you, just for a moment.

How easy was it to prise RvP away from Arsenal? An actual proper football team with history and success? And Matic, from Chelsea, fresh from winning the league?

Do you think KdB dreamt of playing for City?

I doubt he would think twice if he was offered the opportunity of moving to Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern Munich, Juventus, or even little old United. It would just be a question of agreeing a, considerable, transfer fee.
van Persie was in the last year of his contract. Chelsea allowed Matic to leave as they'd bought Bakayoko.