Kevin De Bruyne

He scores with his left in and around the box.

Ronaldo has scored goals with his left foot that De Bruyne has never scored period.



Ronaldo as a teenager scored a 30 yard screamer with his left foot. Its not even close.
 
Serioulsy dude ?? Scholes was doing this all his career , you just haven't noticed may be !

Scholes wasn’t doing what KDB is doing now. Who will end up as the better player over the course of their careers is a different story - but to imply that Scholes spent his entire career performing at, or above, the level that De Bruyne is performing at now isn’t true in my opinion.
 
Scholes wasn’t doing what KDB is doing now. Who will end up as the better player over the course of their careers is a different story - but to imply that Scholes spent his entire career performing at, or above, the level that De Bruyne is performing at now isn’t true in my opinion.
True. The current KDB is definitely better than Scholes at his peak.

KDB is right now the best player in the league, the best midfielder in the world and probably the second best player in the world.

As great as Scholes was, and over the course of their complete careers he will still probably go down as the greater player, he was never at that level.
 
True. The current KDB is definitely better than Scholes at his peak.

KDB is right now the best player in the league, the best midfielder in the world and probably the second best player in the world.

As great as Scholes was, and over the course of their complete careers he will still probably go down as the greater player, he was never at that level.

I don't understand this. Scholes was a vital piece in a team which dominated the Premier League for a decade. He played a vital role in the treble winning season and in all our deep runs in Europe. But somehow KDB is better at his peak after after playing well for 6 months. :wenger:.
 
I don't understand this. Scholes was a vital piece in a team which dominated the Premier League for a decade. He played a vital role in the treble winning season and in all our deep runs in Europe. But somehow KDB is better at his peak after after playing well for 6 months. :wenger:.

De Bruyne has been a top level player for a while now. He just took it to another level this season.
 
He did it tonight, looked like he was on a different level to everyone else
Well every player can have a night where everything goes right for them whilst his teammates are having an off night. I've seen that from many United players over the years but wouldn't have them down as someone like a Messi who can make someone like an Iniesta look like a level below him week in, week out.

I've seen matches where a Sané or Silva were more influential than De Bryune. All top players who I think are all of equal importance.

Scholes wasn’t doing what KDB is doing now. Who will end up as the better player over the course of their careers is a different story - but to imply that Scholes spent his entire career performing at, or above, the level that De Bruyne is performing at now isn’t true in my opinion.
Not his entire career but I've seen Scholes play at a similar level and I don't get why that's so absurd. He was a key part in one of the best English teams ever. My favourite season of Scholes wasn't even a season in which we were at our best - it was in 02/03 where I thought he was one of the best players in the world.
 
I don't understand this. Scholes was a vital piece in a team which dominated the Premier League for a decade. He played a vital role in the treble winning season and in all our deep runs in Europe. But somehow KDB is better at his peak after after playing well for 6 months. :wenger:.
Like I said, Scholes will still probably go down as the greater player because he won so many trophies and remained consistent for so many years. All I'm saying is that, even at his peak, he never hit the levels we've seen from KDB this season.
 
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Well every player can have a night where everything goes right for them whilst his teammates are having an off night. I've seen that from many United players over the years but wouldn't have them down as someone like a Messi who can make someone like an Iniesta look like a level below him week in, week out.

I've seen matches where a Sané or Silva were more influential than De Bryune. All top players who I think are all of equal importance.
You make valid points and hard to argue with any of them

I still think he's a special player and the way he's playing it's quite similar to Zidane and Messi when they showed up to a game and dominated from the get go.

Very impressive from De Bruyne overall
 
Like I said, Scholes will still probably go down as the greater players because he won so many trophies and remained consistent for so many years. All I'm saying is that, even at his peak, he never hit the levels we've seen from KDB this season.

I dunno about that, Scholes had some spectacular seasons and scored some vital goals. In my mind KDB doesn't even come close yet.
 
He was shite against United, but so far this season the best player in the premier league (even with Salah scoring a crazy amount of goals for a winger). Nevertheless, going by goals and assists he has 6 goals and 8 assists in 18 games, which means he has gotten a goal or assist in 14 out of 18 games. Pogba has 3 goals and 5 assists in 8 games so 8 combined goals and assists in 8 games, and yet some people act like there is a world of difference between De Bruyne and Pogba and talk about Pogba like, oh Pogba, hes overrated. If thats true then how come his stats are better per game in so many categories than De Bruyne (Pogba that is).
 
"The brilliant Belgian ran further than anyone else on the pitch - 12.09 kilometres - while nobody made more high-intensity sprints. Talent and effort."

Scholes achieved much more than KDB has so far and was more gifted on the ball but KDB is a far superior athlete. Think his intensity was impossible for Scholes.
 
"The brilliant Belgian ran further than anyone else on the pitch - 12.09 kilometres - while nobody made more high-intensity sprints. Talent and effort."

Scholes achieved much more than KDB has so far and was more gifted on the ball but KDB is a far superior athlete. Think his intensity was impossible for Scholes.

Xavi used to have distance covered numbers like that when he played for Pep.
 
Hes the best player of the world this season.
THIS season I don’t think that’s a crazy thing to say. If he replicated that for a longer period then he becomes part of a bigger discussion. Right now, he is a supremely talented player, probably the best in the league, but not in the talk for best in the world overall right now.
 
THIS season I don’t think that’s a crazy thing to say. If he replicated that for a longer period then he becomes part of a bigger discussion. Right now, he is a supremely talented player, probably the best in the league, but not in the talk for best in the world overall right now.
I think theres a tendency of wingers and strikers to win the balon d'or.
I dont think is fair. Some years Xavi or Iniesta were the best.
Now i think is KDB.
 
I think theres a tendency of wingers and strikers to win the balon d'or.
I dont think is fair. Some years Xavi or Iniesta were the best.
Now i think is KDB.

Goals decide matches so goal scorers make the biggest impact. So I think it is fair that players like that are called the best in the world.
 
Me too, Pep constantly said when he arrived he thought KDB's best position as a winger, playing from out wide. Dunno what changed his mind but it seems to have worked.

It could be worse we both could be this guy
https://sports.bwin.com/en/news/foo...should-be-prioritising-this-summer,79658.html

Think his games for Belgium changed his mind. De Bruyne often played deeper for Belgium and had some outstanding games at that position. There were even some quotes about it, will try to find it.
To add to that discussion with @Keeps It tidy, I also thought at the start of the season he could get exposed in this position and that City defence might suffer in some games because of that.

But credit where it's due. Absolute class of the player and one of the world's best atm.
 
He would probably need to take a wage cut to join them. City can match and exceed any contract the big 2 in Spain can offer.
Many would to play for either of them

Like I say it is often seen as the pinnacle for many players. Haven’t a fecking clue if de Bruyne thinks that but I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he does.

Utd would have matched or exceeded any wage offer for de gea two years ago but he still wanted to join Real
 
Many would to play for either of them

Like I say it is often seen as the pinnacle for many players. Haven’t a fecking clue if de Bruyne thinks that but I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he does.

Utd would have matched or exceeded any wage offer for de gea two years ago but he still wanted to join Real

People used to try to link Aguero to Barca and Real for years. Nothing came to fruition it will probably be the same for De Bruyne.
 
Well many players see the big two in Spain as the ultimate goal....so hopefully he does?

It’s hardly unrealistic

I find it has more to do with the leagues - for a large period Barcelona & Madrid utilised each other to bring the best out of each other & compete for the best players. Then for a year or 2 Bayern & Dortmund did the same with each other & could have got pretty much whoever they wanted & then it came back to Barcelona & Madrid.

The way things are going - the next league is definitely the EPL. Unbelievable managers, a whole list of top teams & players even at the most ridiculous clubs; the chances of many players leaving this league to Barcelona & Madrid is not as high in my opinion because as clubs they are on a relatively subtle downward spiral as is their league in general including their players. I doubt a player who is on the verge of their peak is going to jump ship to play with Ronaldo for a season compared to playing with the likes of Sane & Jesus for example
 
I dunno about that, Scholes had some spectacular seasons and scored some vital goals. In my mind KDB doesn't even come close yet.

Someone finally agrees with me. The KDB love is getting way over the top !!! If he has to compare with scholes he have to dominate the league for year's. To me seeing KDB playing today actually makes me remember how scholes used to play. But KDB is not yet at Scholes level yet..
 
He's just a brilliant player. His dive for the pen was a fecking joke though. What is it with Pep's teams and diving? It's not needed.
 
He's just a brilliant player. His dive for the pen was a fecking joke though. What is it with Pep's teams and diving? It's not needed.

He was clearly fouled even if he exaggerated contract it does not matter he was clearly fouled.
 
I find it has more to do with the leagues - for a large period Barcelona & Madrid utilised each other to bring the best out of each other & compete for the best players. Then for a year or 2 Bayern & Dortmund did the same with each other & could have got pretty much whoever they wanted & then it came back to Barcelona & Madrid.

The way things are going - the next league is definitely the EPL. Unbelievable managers, a whole list of top teams & players even at the most ridiculous clubs; the chances of many players leaving this league to Barcelona & Madrid is not as high in my opinion because as clubs they are on a relatively subtle downward spiral as is their league in general including their players. I doubt a player who is on the verge of their peak is going to jump ship to play with Ronaldo for a season compared to playing with the likes of Sane & Jesus for example
To a lesser extent Bayern but especially Dortmund never had and never will have even close to the pulling power Of Barcelona or real

Dunno what you are on about,
 
He was clearly fouled even if he exaggerated contract it does not matter he was clearly fouled.

I've rewatched it and saw almost no contact at all, the defender missed KDB, KDB jumped over the defender and planted his feet on the ground, was literally no contact I could see at all. It was a dive.

Edit: watch at 4:47 - it was a dive.

 
To a lesser extent Bayern but especially Dortmund never had and never will have even close to the pulling power Of Barcelona or real

Dunno what you are on about,

For a relatively short period the bundesliga were the best league in the world & dprtmund was able to attract players much higher than their previous standard because of it. You are right though; it was because of Dortumunds lack of providing a competition afterwards & not being as a big club that the power shifted back to the la liga.
 
"The brilliant Belgian ran further than anyone else on the pitch - 12.09 kilometres - while nobody made more high-intensity sprints. Talent and effort."

Scholes achieved much more than KDB has so far and was more gifted on the ball but KDB is a far superior athlete. Think his intensity was impossible for Scholes.
Scholes didn’t have blood bags.
 
I've rewatched it and saw almost no contact at all, the defender missed KDB, KDB jumped over the defender and planted his feet on the ground, was literally no contact I could see at all. It was a dive.

Edit: watch at 4:47 - it was a dive.



It looks like contact to me and even if there wasn't most footballers would go down in the situation. A defender has to know better since the ref will call that 95% of the time.