Kenyon: No more Spending....
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Davo:
Yeah as you might have seen, I'm still waiting for a sensible explanation as to the logistics of this idea.
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simple economics - if a club is convinced they have the only player you want - the price goes up, like in a monopoly market (and not the board
game either)
with more sellers, pricing become more competitive
declaring interest in a player or for a position hints at deperation to close a deal before the CL deadline, pushing the price up
PK's is the flea-market bargain-shopping approach - i don't really NEED that old record, but i don't mind it at a knock-down price
It doesn't work
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nothing in economics really seems to, but there's folks winning Nobel Prizes every year ...
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>Unlikely bedfellows, you two are.
Pardon me? <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
Originally posted by radd:
<strong>Davo:
nothing in economics really seems to, but there's folks winning Nobel Prizes every year ...
Once more, as soon as you show an interest in a player the idea that you're not going to buy anyone ( that Kenyon has currently planted )goes out the window, so its back to square one..
Do you think Kenyon's going to call and say
"Kenneth, how much would you take for Eider? We're not really interested mind, so don't hike up the price?"
Davo
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re 1: So its a clever play on words differing from "transfer" and "replace" is it? LOL, you couldn't make this up...what makes you think you're after Duff, has he been mentioned by Blackburn in the ongoing Yorke exchanges
2. Not only do I disagree, I also think this theory doesn't work..as shown above, its simply a load of toss mate
3. It is possible, but very unlikely....</strong>[/QUOTE]
1. Well it's a fact. If Dwight Yorke goes, then we are down to three forwards. He needs to be replaced. Therefore someone will need to be bought. And Duff has not been mentioned at all. So will you be surprised if United sign him considering SAF has openly admitted that he admires him as a player and alluded to the fact that he would like him to play for United before the WC?
2. Maybe you think it is a load of toss, so what. Whatever you think, I believe that if United show an interest in a player from a certain club. That club immediately up the value of the player by virtue of the fact that United are bidding for them. Whereas, if a club like Sunderland were looking at the same player and without the interest from United, they would be asked for a more reasonable transfer fee. Simple.
3. So you agree, it is possible then.
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re 1: So its a clever play on words differing from "transfer" and "replace" is it? LOL, you couldn't make this up...what makes you think you're after Duff, has he been mentioned by Blackburn in the ongoing Yorke exchanges
2. Not only do I disagree, I also think this theory doesn't work..as shown above, its simply a load of toss mate
3. It is possible, but very unlikely....</strong>[/QUOTE]
1. Well it's a fact. If Dwight Yorke goes, then we are down to three forwards. He needs to be replaced. Therefore someone will need to be bought. And Duff has not been mentioned at all. So will you be surprised if United sign him considering SAF has openly admitted that he admires him as a player and alluded to the fact that he would like him to play for United before the WC?
2. Maybe you think it is a load of toss, so what. Whatever you think, I believe that if United show an interest in a player from a certain club. That club immediately up the value of the player by virtue of the fact that United are bidding for them. Whereas, if a club like Sunderland were looking at the same player and without the interest from United, they would be asked for a more reasonable transfer fee. Simple.
3. So you agree, it is possible then.
1. He needs to be replaced in your eyes. This doesn't mean that your opinion is shared by those who matter....I think Duff will be expensive if he goes, so yes I would be surprised if you get him
2. I agree with your idea re clubs hiking the price depending on who the bidding club is. However, this still has no relevance to the theory that Kenyon's words will make any difference....you're not going to catch clubs unaware
3. Yes, possible and very unlikely
... and I think that's as close as we're gonna get Davo. I think I'll order a Chinese!
For Ruddy:
I have supported United even through the days of "NO MONEY" Edwards. So I frankly don't care how much United spend.
On the topic I personally believe United need only one more player. Namely a foruth striker or even one who can play deep. This can either be got from layers available on frees, the lower divisions or even by forcing Lazio to give us someone for the money the owe us. Else. Last season we had three and did so well despite our worst season in ages. If we where to start with the form we had in mid seaseon with Veron, Barthez, Silvestre, Scholes, Giggs and Forlan firing on all cylinders we would be unfathomable and near unstoppable imo
I have supported United even through the days of "NO MONEY" Edwards. So I frankly don't care how much United spend.
On the topic I personally believe United need only one more player. Namely a foruth striker or even one who can play deep. This can either be got from layers available on frees, the lower divisions or even by forcing Lazio to give us someone for the money the owe us. Else. Last season we had three and did so well despite our worst season in ages. If we where to start with the form we had in mid seaseon with Veron, Barthez, Silvestre, Scholes, Giggs and Forlan firing on all cylinders we would be unfathomable and near unstoppable imo
And Davo. You are pitiful
I think it will be the latter. If Utd. are in talks to sell Yorke, there will have to be a replacement. Besides, Fergie also said before we got Rio, that he would replace all the players who had left...3 so far, possibly one more. We've only got 2 so far and thats if you count Luke Steele. Besides, even if he doesn't sign anyone, it will still be good for Utd. in the long run as he will be forced to give youngsters like Davis a lot of experience and we will see where the talent lies. Who was the last good striker to come out of our Youth who made it to the first team?
Utd may well see how things pan out at the start of the season then dip into the market around Christmas time if needed.
Davo et al,
An attacker will be signed if (when) yorke leaves
The concern is not the transfer fees, but the wage bill
An attacker will be signed if (when) yorke leaves
The concern is not the transfer fees, but the wage bill
What your all forgetting is kenyon said, he was:
"We have got a squad size we are happy with." If you look at us we have the best midfield of any team probably across Europe,"
to me that means if yorke goes, then we will not have the right squad size and fergie willl not be happy with his squad, as he is the guy that started this 4 strikers theory (keegan tried to do one better with <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> ), he was right as we won the treble, last year we really used 2-3 strikers, which was not enough in europe, where u need a variety of forwards and need to play certain styles against certain teams, sometimes direct strikers, sometimes 1 direct striker, one withdrawn one, sometimes a pacy/tricky striker (deportivo??????).
so all in all, tghe squad size right when yorke is there, but he is definately going, so he will definately be replaced, and kenyon also took the unusal step of saying that they were trying to offload yorke, that to me was a bit suspect, maybe he contradicted himself on purpose, to hint maybe we might buy again.
"We have got a squad size we are happy with." If you look at us we have the best midfield of any team probably across Europe,"
to me that means if yorke goes, then we will not have the right squad size and fergie willl not be happy with his squad, as he is the guy that started this 4 strikers theory (keegan tried to do one better with <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> ), he was right as we won the treble, last year we really used 2-3 strikers, which was not enough in europe, where u need a variety of forwards and need to play certain styles against certain teams, sometimes direct strikers, sometimes 1 direct striker, one withdrawn one, sometimes a pacy/tricky striker (deportivo??????).
so all in all, tghe squad size right when yorke is there, but he is definately going, so he will definately be replaced, and kenyon also took the unusal step of saying that they were trying to offload yorke, that to me was a bit suspect, maybe he contradicted himself on purpose, to hint maybe we might buy again.
Originally posted by Davo:
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Yeah that confirms it beyond a shadow of doubt...
You really know your stuff, when's Carini signing?</strong><hr></blockquote>
i know your a sheep shagging twat
hes not
Originally posted by RUDDY:
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i know your a sheep shagging twat
hes not
You implied he might be 10 mins ago..
A very quick update
He wouldn't lower it. The point is that he wouldn't raise it either.
But it would be the rational thing to do..
rationality's a pretty relative thing, mind
rationality's a pretty relative thing, mind
Dans, Davo, Knoxy, Ichk, Ruddy <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
So I believe United are in the market for another striker, Surprised? I'll bet you are! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
So I believe United are in the market for another striker, Surprised? I'll bet you are! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
Can't wait to hear the explanation.