Kenyon: No more Spending....
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Dans you've just proved you are a village IDIOT. You know nothing more than the words you used to abuse me with. So much for your thinking capacity 
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Your laughable
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Your laughable
Originally posted by kemo:
<strong>Dans you've just proved you are a village IDIOT. You know nothing more than the words you used to abuse me with. So much for your thinking capacity
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Your laughable
Kemo
You're football knowledge is terrible..
Its between you and Ahmed as to has the worst such knowledge on here..
Everyone thinks you're a tit
Last summer Kenyon said we won't be making any huge signings for a while after Veron. That held for 12 months.
If the right player comes along at a decent price and Fergie's interested, I'm sure we'll go for him, especially once we sell Yorke.
If the right player comes along at a decent price and Fergie's interested, I'm sure we'll go for him, especially once we sell Yorke.
United Chief Executive Peter Kenyon has said that the club's summer spending spree began and ended with the capture of Rio Ferdinand.
Despite the Reds being linked with over 30 players during the close season, the man who controls the Old Trafford purse-strings says that he and the manager are happy with the size of their squad, and no more new additions will be made.
"We're not looking for new players," he said after tying up the British record deal for Ferdinand.
Note that cuddly pete mentioned "he and the manager" are happy with no more puchases.
I hope this doesn't come back to haunt us when we get a few injuries
Despite the Reds being linked with over 30 players during the close season, the man who controls the Old Trafford purse-strings says that he and the manager are happy with the size of their squad, and no more new additions will be made.
"We're not looking for new players," he said after tying up the British record deal for Ferdinand.
Note that cuddly pete mentioned "he and the manager" are happy with no more puchases.
I hope this doesn't come back to haunt us when we get a few injuries
Err, Kenyon said 'we're. Who said 'we' is he and Sir Alex?
I have no idea - sir alex perhaps?
What bothers me more is that cuddly pete quoted he and fergie are happy with no more signings.
Sort of extinguish our hopes of another signing or two doesn't it?
What bothers me more is that cuddly pete quoted he and fergie are happy with no more signings.
Sort of extinguish our hopes of another signing or two doesn't it?
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>United Chief Executive Peter Kenyon has said that the club's summer spending spree began and ended with the capture of Rio Ferdinand.
Despite the Reds being linked with over 30 players during the close season, the man who controls the Old Trafford purse-strings says that he and the manager are happy with the size of their squad, and no more new additions will be made.
"We're not looking for new players," he said after tying up the British record deal for Ferdinand.
Note that cuddly pete mentioned "he and the manager" are happy with no more puchases.
I hope this doesn't come back to haunt us when we get a few injuries
I honestly do not believe that our summer 'spending spree' is over.
a) because the outlay for Rio in terms of this season is £15m
b) we've lost Denis, Rai, Wallwork etc.
c) with Yorke likely to go we are light for cover up front
and
d) if Soumess wants to buy Yorke, I would be (to put it moderately) very anxious that we use him as a bargaining tool to get the services of Damian Duff, who SAF has already said that he has courted for and that he was ready to bid for before the WC.
In relation to the share price being the lowest it has been for 6 years, their is a major downturn in shares worldwide with the FTSE being as low as it has been in 5 years and the NASDAQ as low as it has been for 6. Add this to the fact that United won sweet FA last season and I think that the need to worry over the price of the shares (being relative) is minimal.
United will win some silverware next season, my money is on the PL. Our share price will go up. We have Rio and we will get Damian Duff.
Hve to agree I think there is already things going on with a Yorkie/Duff deal
I think he will ask Giggs to play as striker if we got injuries. So we can still play players like Fortune and Chadwick (time for youth gentlemen). Scholes played left last season and he might as well do it again against lesser sides.
I think we will be ok but I still got a feeling that we will see a striker (since Italians are struggling and we might even get a nice bargain).
I think we will be ok but I still got a feeling that we will see a striker (since Italians are struggling and we might even get a nice bargain).
Its time for some youth, If SAF is not willing to outlay the cash this summer he is not looking to fix the teams problems in one go. Perhaps he see's some promise in a youngster or two that we don't. It would not be the first time.
From this crop we have O'Shea, Stewart, Djordic, Webber and Davis who could be given a chance in lesser games [not all at once obviously]. Djordic can cover for Giggs and Webber/Davis rotate as the 4th striker and see what they can do.
Plus it is not unusual for Utd to buy players during the season once all the transfer hype has died down. This is not ideal but could save millions of pounds.
From this crop we have O'Shea, Stewart, Djordic, Webber and Davis who could be given a chance in lesser games [not all at once obviously]. Djordic can cover for Giggs and Webber/Davis rotate as the 4th striker and see what they can do.
Plus it is not unusual for Utd to buy players during the season once all the transfer hype has died down. This is not ideal but could save millions of pounds.
the last time we were forced to dig deep into youth 'cos senior players left - we have got Becks, Butty and co ... a whole host of young stars that ultimately take over the snr. England team ...
If $ is the issue this round .. well I would say OK, we dig deep again ... IT's time to let the youngster get some taste of higher level football ... so that even if they leave OT one day - they won't regret abt the time they spent here at least ...
Midfield still look pretty much covered now ... only the front lines and especially fullbacks are immediate needs ...
If $ is the issue this round .. well I would say OK, we dig deep again ... IT's time to let the youngster get some taste of higher level football ... so that even if they leave OT one day - they won't regret abt the time they spent here at least ...
Midfield still look pretty much covered now ... only the front lines and especially fullbacks are immediate needs ...
BH: I honestly do not believe that our summer 'spending spree' is over.
a) because the outlay for Rio in terms of this season is £15m
<strong>DANS: We spent on Veron and Forlan last season - 35m - no small outlay I'm sure you will agree - we need to think bigger picture here I'm afraid</strong>
BH: b) we've lost Denis, Rai, Wallwork etc.
<strong>DANS: We've lost Denis - who was the most slated last year for being slow and past it - we have a reserve who surely can do the job he has vacated - let's not get overly sentimental. We've lost Wallwork - so what? We've lost a 38 yr old keeper who played the odd game - same applies - so what - we have Roy.</strong>
BH: c) with Yorke likely to go we are light for cover up front
<strong>DANS: We may play 4-5-1 next season in which case 3 strikers could suffice, if not perhaps a promotion from the reserve team is in the offing (Davis?)</strong>
BH: and
d) if Soumess wants to buy Yorke, I would be (to put it moderately) very anxious that we use him as a bargaining tool to get the services of Damian Duff, who SAF has already said that he has courted for and that he was ready to bid for before the WC.
<strong>DANS: I don't remember reading any quotes from Ferguson about Duff - could you provide some please?</strong>
BH: In relation to the share price being the lowest it has been for 6 years, their is a major downturn in shares worldwide with the FTSE being as low as it has been in 5 years and the NASDAQ as low as it has been for 6. Add this to the fact that United won sweet FA last season and I think that the need to worry over the price of the shares (being relative) is minimal.
<strong>DANS: We are not a technology company. We may be reliant on Sky but to lump them together with NASDAQ stock doesn't make sense. Like it or not we are in the entertainment business - leisure. You're better off comparing us with a film studio, Disney for example.</strong>
BH: United will win some silverware next season, my money is on the PL. Our share price will go up. We have Rio and we will get Damian Duff.
<strong>DANS: Let's hope so. Share price seems to be linked to a lot more than just success though - for instance, new customers gained in NA. Gaining new customers might at present be more reliant on ties with the New York Yankees than winning the PL.</strong>
Dans, are you arguing here just for the sake of arguing - as your responses are not exactly coherent. What the feck has Disney got to do with United???
The bigger picture Dans, is that as a United supporter, I want to see them win trophies. we spent £35m last year on players out of last years budget. Not this years. This year we spent £15m. Now with the chance to offload Dwight Yorke for a younger better player who will not cost as much in wages and has a better attitude seems to me to make sense. Maybe not you, but then of course,... you're Dans.
I said "b) we've lost Denis, Rai, Wallwork etc." and you reply with "let's not get overly sentimental"???? Dans, this is a fact. When players go from a club that has aspirations of winning trophies they need to be replaced by younger players or players who are better and will improve the squad. Sentimental??????
You are one of the very few people I have heard that believes that 3 strikers are enough for a PL winning side. Not even SAF believes that. But good luck to ye.
In relation to the SAF/Duff/before the WC thingy, it was on Irish radio and numerous printed media. If you really want me to find out what dates, from whom exactly you can feck off. I don't have the time, but sure you can look yourself if it means that much to you.
Finally Dans. Before you lecture anyone on stocks and shares. Do a little bit of homework, your final paragraph was embarrassing.
a) because the outlay for Rio in terms of this season is £15m
<strong>DANS: We spent on Veron and Forlan last season - 35m - no small outlay I'm sure you will agree - we need to think bigger picture here I'm afraid</strong>
BH: b) we've lost Denis, Rai, Wallwork etc.
<strong>DANS: We've lost Denis - who was the most slated last year for being slow and past it - we have a reserve who surely can do the job he has vacated - let's not get overly sentimental. We've lost Wallwork - so what? We've lost a 38 yr old keeper who played the odd game - same applies - so what - we have Roy.</strong>
BH: c) with Yorke likely to go we are light for cover up front
<strong>DANS: We may play 4-5-1 next season in which case 3 strikers could suffice, if not perhaps a promotion from the reserve team is in the offing (Davis?)</strong>
BH: and
d) if Soumess wants to buy Yorke, I would be (to put it moderately) very anxious that we use him as a bargaining tool to get the services of Damian Duff, who SAF has already said that he has courted for and that he was ready to bid for before the WC.
<strong>DANS: I don't remember reading any quotes from Ferguson about Duff - could you provide some please?</strong>
BH: In relation to the share price being the lowest it has been for 6 years, their is a major downturn in shares worldwide with the FTSE being as low as it has been in 5 years and the NASDAQ as low as it has been for 6. Add this to the fact that United won sweet FA last season and I think that the need to worry over the price of the shares (being relative) is minimal.
<strong>DANS: We are not a technology company. We may be reliant on Sky but to lump them together with NASDAQ stock doesn't make sense. Like it or not we are in the entertainment business - leisure. You're better off comparing us with a film studio, Disney for example.</strong>
BH: United will win some silverware next season, my money is on the PL. Our share price will go up. We have Rio and we will get Damian Duff.
<strong>DANS: Let's hope so. Share price seems to be linked to a lot more than just success though - for instance, new customers gained in NA. Gaining new customers might at present be more reliant on ties with the New York Yankees than winning the PL.</strong>
Dans, are you arguing here just for the sake of arguing - as your responses are not exactly coherent. What the feck has Disney got to do with United???
The bigger picture Dans, is that as a United supporter, I want to see them win trophies. we spent £35m last year on players out of last years budget. Not this years. This year we spent £15m. Now with the chance to offload Dwight Yorke for a younger better player who will not cost as much in wages and has a better attitude seems to me to make sense. Maybe not you, but then of course,... you're Dans.
I said "b) we've lost Denis, Rai, Wallwork etc." and you reply with "let's not get overly sentimental"????
Dans, this is a fact. When players go from a club that has aspirations of winning trophies they need to be replaced by younger players or players who are better and will improve the squad. Sentimental??????You are one of the very few people I have heard that believes that 3 strikers are enough for a PL winning side. Not even SAF believes that. But good luck to ye.
In relation to the SAF/Duff/before the WC thingy, it was on Irish radio and numerous printed media. If you really want me to find out what dates, from whom exactly you can feck off. I don't have the time, but sure you can look yourself if it means that much to you.
Finally Dans. Before you lecture anyone on stocks and shares. Do a little bit of homework, your final paragraph was embarrassing.
Is anyone else surprised by the general Manc reaction to Kenyon's words..
The majority appear to think that you will be making more signings...
The majority appear to think that you will be making more signings...
What's the general Manc reaction Davo?
Another oversensitive one. I'm not trying to lecture anyone. I'm just making some points.
1 - I never said I considered 3 strikers enough, I merely suggested that perhaps SAF did because he was looking to play 4-5-1 again this season. Would you not agree that if this was the case 3 strikers would be enough? Whether or not we do actually play 4-5-1 is irrelevant. It's a hypothesis.
2 - By bigger picture, I meant we spent a lot last season. We've just spent a lot this summer. It seems to me that some people aren't happy with that outlay. I think we should be grateful. I also think that such spending is significant and maybe our limit has been reached.
3 - My point about losing Denis/Rai/Wallwork was that they are no great loss. By overly sentimental I was suggesting that some people might feel that Denis is a great loss because of his unrivalled record and loyalty over the time he was at United, rather than his contribution last year
4 - I wasn't inferring that you were lying about the Duff SAF link, I thought perhaps you might point me in the direction of a quote as I couldn't remember one. Nevermind.
5 - The stocks and shares thing was merely a suggestion that it's about more than success these days, for instance the succesful marketing and selling of a whole host of other products related to the brand that is United. Undoubtedly success plays a key role in this but I think their are four trophies up for grabs a season and the chances of not winning one are undoubtedly higher than of winning one. My suggestion is that they need to find and are finding ways of generating revenue that are not directly linked to success.
6 - I made the analogy with Disney because we are in the entertainment business these days what with our TV channels, these new US cartoon style characters that will be used to further exploit the brand that is United etc etc
7 - I didn't try and lecture you on stocks and shares despite what you might think. My suggestion was that NASDAQ (which correct me if I'm wrong is the tech stocks market) and it's ups and downs is unlikely to have a bearing on us.
8 - Again, my opinion, no lecture, how about lightening up a bit?
1 - I never said I considered 3 strikers enough, I merely suggested that perhaps SAF did because he was looking to play 4-5-1 again this season. Would you not agree that if this was the case 3 strikers would be enough? Whether or not we do actually play 4-5-1 is irrelevant. It's a hypothesis.
2 - By bigger picture, I meant we spent a lot last season. We've just spent a lot this summer. It seems to me that some people aren't happy with that outlay. I think we should be grateful. I also think that such spending is significant and maybe our limit has been reached.
3 - My point about losing Denis/Rai/Wallwork was that they are no great loss. By overly sentimental I was suggesting that some people might feel that Denis is a great loss because of his unrivalled record and loyalty over the time he was at United, rather than his contribution last year
4 - I wasn't inferring that you were lying about the Duff SAF link, I thought perhaps you might point me in the direction of a quote as I couldn't remember one. Nevermind.
5 - The stocks and shares thing was merely a suggestion that it's about more than success these days, for instance the succesful marketing and selling of a whole host of other products related to the brand that is United. Undoubtedly success plays a key role in this but I think their are four trophies up for grabs a season and the chances of not winning one are undoubtedly higher than of winning one. My suggestion is that they need to find and are finding ways of generating revenue that are not directly linked to success.
6 - I made the analogy with Disney because we are in the entertainment business these days what with our TV channels, these new US cartoon style characters that will be used to further exploit the brand that is United etc etc
7 - I didn't try and lecture you on stocks and shares despite what you might think. My suggestion was that NASDAQ (which correct me if I'm wrong is the tech stocks market) and it's ups and downs is unlikely to have a bearing on us.
8 - Again, my opinion, no lecture, how about lightening up a bit?
Why are you all making a big deal out of what Kenyon said? As with all things PLC, you take everything with a grain of salt. He says there will be no more signings - and thats very possible.
However more signings are also possible. All we can do is wait and see cos frankly at the moment all of you are potentially right. I dont think even Kenyon and Fergie know if there will be more signings which renders all these debates useless.
We NEED more players, but we can get by pretty well without. I reckon if we sell Yorke, we will bid for Duff or Gudjohnsen. Its one of Fergie's laws, you need 4 strikers. However if we dont get another striker Giggsy will be the 4th man helping accomodate another one of our midfielders.
However more signings are also possible. All we can do is wait and see cos frankly at the moment all of you are potentially right. I dont think even Kenyon and Fergie know if there will be more signings which renders all these debates useless.
We NEED more players, but we can get by pretty well without. I reckon if we sell Yorke, we will bid for Duff or Gudjohnsen. Its one of Fergie's laws, you need 4 strikers. However if we dont get another striker Giggsy will be the 4th man helping accomodate another one of our midfielders.
Of course there WILL be new signings for next season, they may not happen this summer but sure to soon after. If any of these players got themselves a nasty injury they would have to be replaced. Barthez, Rio, Larry, Ruud, Ole
Originally posted by RUDDY:
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if there is then so be it
if not im happy</strong><hr></blockquote>
You're coming round...
Have you lot missed something???
Yes PK says that it's the end of the spending. But SAF in an interview on SUNDAY last. Said that it is not the end of the spending...
ComprOnde... ( )
So one is saying one thing - the other is saying the opposite, and you lot are surprised that there is speculation???? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Yes PK says that it's the end of the spending. But SAF in an interview on SUNDAY last. Said that it is not the end of the spending...
ComprOnde... (
)So one is saying one thing - the other is saying the opposite, and you lot are surprised that there is speculation???? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Originally posted by BHManUNut:
<strong>Have you lot missed something???
Yes PK says that it's the end of the spending. But SAF in an interview on SUNDAY last. Said that it is not the end of the spending...
ComprOnde... (
So one is saying one thing - the other is saying the opposite, and you lot are surprised that there is speculation????
Kenyon has the final say, not Demento..
and I haven't seen this interview you're talking about..
I'm surprised that so many are refusing to believe Kenyon on this..
Originally posted by Davo:
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You're coming round...
its not that mate im just saying like dans says we just splashed 30mil on rio but then people want more and more to be spent