Kenyon: No more Spending....

The bottom line is that we dont HAVE to spend anymore. If we do it'll mainly be for cover in certain areas.

I especially like the idea of NOT investing an Lira. Italy are desperate for someone (and there arnt many contenders) to pump sum money into their transfer machine and start a chain reaction of moves. Now it looks like we wont be bothering they're knackard - awwwwww :p

Sure we'd like Duff or Thuram, but do we really need either.... I personally dont think so

-------------------- Fab/Carol ----------------

--- G Nev/Brown --------------- Micky/P Nev ---
------------ Rio/Blanc/Wes/OShea --------------

--- Becks/Fortune -------------- Giggs/Chad ---
----------- Keane/Veron/Scholes/Butt ----------

----------- Ruud/Ole/Forlan/Disco(!) ----------


It has balance, quality and cover everywhere. Save the candy for a Striker next season.
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We'll definitely have to replace Yorke if he leaves. Having only 3 strikers will leave us thin, especially if Ruud were to get injured.
 
Can't see Duff coming. He's not really a specialist striker and seems expensive. We don't need any more midfielders, no matter how good they are - interestingly, Kenyon said that pretty clearly.

Scholes did a good job covering Giggs last season, seems to suit Mickey too. Forlan can probably cover the wings too.

Fullback cover is a problem but Wes can handle the right side, Phil Neville the left (although neither of those options in those positions fill me with much confidence). O'Shea looks like he's going to get his chance this season, and great news it is too, think he's going to be a big hit for us.

The priority looks like a 4th striker at the moment... There must be value on the continent at the moment with all these money hassles.
 
Exactly, if any of our strikers is injured we are running the risk of that if another one is also injured we do not have cover if Dwight leaves, we that extra player maybe as cover, maybe a player like Rivaldo who would be a first choice or young up and coming player who will learn and could be come a first team regular, who though that is the question? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
 
Originally posted by MancFanFromManc:
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----------- Ruud/Ole/Forlan/Disco(!) ----------


It has balance, quality and cover everywhere. Save the candy for a Striker next season.
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So you also put an exclaimation mark there yourself, that means we are indeed not that "balance" everywhere, isn't it? ;)
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Originally posted by MancFanFromManc:
<strong>The bottom line is that we dont HAVE to spend anymore. If we do it'll mainly be for cover in certain areas.

I especially like the idea of NOT investing an Lira. Italy are desperate for someone (and there arnt many contenders) to pump sum money into their transfer machine and start a chain reaction of moves. Now it looks like we wont be bothering they're knackard - awwwwww :p

Sure we'd like Duff or Thuram, but do we really need either.... I personally dont think so

-------------------- Fab/Carol ----------------

--- G Nev/Brown --------------- Micky/P Nev ---
------------ Rio/Blanc/Wes/OShea --------------

--- Becks/Fortune -------------- Giggs/Chad ---
----------- Keane/Veron/Scholes/Butt ----------

----------- Ruud/Ole/Forlan/Disco(!) ----------


It has balance, quality and cover everywhere. Save the candy for a Striker next season.
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BTW Chadwick mostly plays on the right, and Fortune on the left ;)
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If Yorke goes I'm sure we need to replace him, and preferably with that kind of link striker, maybe it would be PDC although clearly Rivaldo is a better player (albeit questionmarks over his personality), but maybe PDC short term is better so we can get Cisse next season.
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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What about if you got no one? Like your chairman says....</strong><hr></blockquote>

Edwards has said nothing! ;)
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-------------------- Fab/Carol ----------------

--- G Nev/Brown --------------- Micky/P Nev ---
------------ Rio/Blanc/Wes/OShea --------------

-Becks/Chadwick/Forlan----Giggs/Fortune/Djordic -
----------- Keane/Veron/Scholes/Butt ------------

----------- Ruud/Ole/Forlan/Davis(?) ----------

Looks fine to me. Time for some youth.
 
-------------------- Fab/Carol ----------------
--- G Nev/Brown --------------- Micky/P Nev ---
------------ Rio/Blanc/Wes/OShea --------------

-Becks/Chadwick/Fletcher----Giggs/Fortune/Djordic -
----------- Keane/Veron/Scholes/Butt ------------

----------- Ruud/Ole/Forlan/Player to be signed later ----------
 
Didn't Kenyon say something similar when we signed Verón or Ruud. In both cases we went on to sign someone else.
 
Don't know if any of the Irish reds heard the interview with SAF on Morning Ireland yesterday morning (monday morning). Fergie was in Sligo on Sunday night at a dinner for a former Celtic staff member, seemingly he was playing golf in Sligo on Sunday and ringing OT for updates on the Rio situation as he played.

Anyway, once the news leaked on Sunday some journalist who was at the event for RTE interviewed Fergie late on Sunday night. It sounded like an after dinner interview, know what i mean.

To cut a long story short, Fergie said that will be more players brought in saying something like "You can't lose players like Denis Irwin, Ronnie Johsen and Rai and not replace them". All of this talk was about strengthing the back and he said there will be more.

Now that doesn't mean we will be spending big-time. He could have a few frees lined up. Or maybe Mr. Quiroz has a few aces up his sleeve. Suffice to say Fergie wants more defenders coming in.
 
Originally posted by Rory 7:
<strong>Don't know if any of the Irish reds heard the interview with SAF on Morning Ireland yesterday morning (monday morning). Fergie was in Sligo on Sunday night at a dinner for a former Celtic staff member, seemingly he was playing golf in Sligo on Sunday and ringing OT for updates on the Rio situation as he played.

Anyway, once the news leaked on Sunday some journalist who was at the event for RTE interviewed Fergie late on Sunday night. It sounded like an after dinner interview, know what i mean.

To cut a long story short, Fergie said that will be more players brought in saying something like "You can't lose players like Denis Irwin, Ronnie Johsen and Rai and not replace them". All of this talk was about strengthing the back and he said there will be more.

Now that doesn't mean we will be spending big-time. He could have a few frees lined up. Or maybe Mr. Quiroz has a few aces up his sleeve. Suffice to say Fergie wants more defenders coming in.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Quite right
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The squad for the Mel Machin testimonial game includes the following youngsters:
Mark Lynch, John O'Shea, Daniel Pugh, Michael Stewart, Bojan Djordic, Ben Muirhead, Daniel Nardiello and Ben Williams. Could it be that the 4th striker is one of our youngsters? And the back up left back?
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>The squad for the Mel Machin testimonial game includes the following youngsters:
Mark Lynch, John O'Shea, Daniel Pugh, Michael Stewart, Bojan Djordic, Ben Muirhead, Daniel Nardiello and Ben Williams. Could it be that the 4th striker is one of our youngsters? And the back up left back?</strong><hr></blockquote>

As things stand now that looks likely, but I'm clinging to the hope that Kenyon was trying to throw the press off the trail with his comments this morning. The last thing United needs is another long running Rio saga. Here's hoping...
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>The squad for the Mel Machin testimonial game includes the following youngsters:
Mark Lynch, John O'Shea, Daniel Pugh, Michael Stewart, Bojan Djordic, Ben Muirhead, Daniel Nardiello and Ben Williams. Could it be that the 4th striker is one of our youngsters? And the back up left back?</strong><hr></blockquote>

can't remember if Lynch is a LB or RB ... but yeah I think among the lot he probably standout as one youngster that have a bit more experience compare to the others ...

Other than Djordic & Stewart, can't see many from above able to break through this season though .. Wonder where is Davis and Webber ?!

O'Shea is already in 1st team recognisition so we don talk abt him here ..
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Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>-------------------- Fab/Carol ----------------

--- G Nev/Brown --------------- Micky/P Nev ---
------------ Rio/Blanc/Wes/OShea --------------

-Becks/Chadwick/Forlan----Giggs/Fortune/Djordic -
----------- Keane/Veron/Scholes/Butt ------------

----------- Ruud/Ole/Forlan/Davis(?) ----------

Looks fine to me. Time for some youth.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think it's quite right too about the above line-up if no more $ available.
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Originally posted by Penny:
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can't remember if Lynch is a LB or RB ... but yeah I think among the lot he probably standout as one youngster that have a bit more experience compare to the others ...

Other than Djordic & Stewart, can't see many from above able to break through this season though .. Wonder where is Davis and Webber ?!

O'Shea is already in 1st team recognisition so we don talk abt him here ..</strong><hr></blockquote>
Do you know anything about Pugh?
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You have to be worrying about what the hells happening to our youth policy if there isnt a promising full back and striker in there

I dont expect a new Becks every year but come on ! <img src="graemlins/annoyed.gif" border="0" alt="[Annoyed]" /> <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
Originally posted by pjaya:

I'm quite confused with the yorke thing ATM. If fergie drop him, why is he still featured to play against Shelbourne?

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I thought fergie was at the match but he wasn't so Carlos Queiroz took control of the team and bought on Yorke for the second half. I just hope and wish that Yorke stays, he is a quality striker if given the chance. I still hope we get a few more signing because we have to improve from last seasons performance, no trophies!
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I have a feeling United will sell Yorkie then sign a 4th striker. When we bough Ruud and Veron last season, Kenyon said there would be no more signings. They then signed Carol, who was cheap. Why couldn't United get someone cheap who turns out to be a great striker.
 
I hope you're right that we will replace Yorke with someone else.
Besides, I think the only positive we get from Kenyon's message is that Silverstre is definitely not leaving. That's good as it is not easy to replace him even if we have money to buy.
 
Maybe Kenyon just said that hoping Fergie will read and give up signing anymore players ? :)
What I believe will happen is that if we sell Yorke we WILL get another striker, unless fergie has someone coming up from the youth team.
I still think another backup FB is needed but maybe it was my money i wouldn't think that ;)
 
Dans when did you escaep from the asylum :eek:
Your buddies sure do miss you :p


Our defence is covered if we promote youth or Keep Johnesen. Oour peoblem is we need some one els who can operate in the hole who is effective and will settle in longer than it took forlan. While bejng lethal like Sheringham and I doubt out youth team has such an individual or do y'all know somthing I don't? :cool:
 
Originally posted by kemo:
<strong>or do y'all know somthing I don't? :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>

I'd say most of us on here aged 6 and above know a great deal that you don't. About all things. Especially about football though.
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Originally posted by Dans:
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I'd say most of us on here aged 6 and above know a great deal that you don't. About all things. Especially about football though.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Superb! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
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Whilst Rio is a tremendous aquisition, I don't think he's necessarily the difference between failure and success in the short term . Without doubt, from United's standing in the football world, it's the latter which must be achieved next season. Not in the next few seasons but next season. Unfortunately, to my mind there are two many question marks hanging over quite a number of the squad including Barthez, Silvestre, Neville (P), Blanc, Brown, Veron, Fortune, Chadwick , Forlan and due to injuries and dare I say it inconsistency, Giggs. Wallwork, Irwin, Cole have gone. Johnsen and Yorke are due to go. The rest, such as Keane, Becks, Scholes, Ruud, Rio of course, Neville (G), Ole, remain the cornerstones of the squad - world class players. O'Shea has tremendous potential and maybe Stewart also, although the latter's is not immediately apparent. The rest are untried youngsters who may or may not make the grade, and whose lack of experience obviously cannot be relied upon for next season.

Ideally, United, as has been well documented by members of this forum, should have been looking to introduce another defender in addition to Rio, a striker and maybe even a goalkeeper, depending on your view of Barthez.

Having spent "only" 13m this year in terms of the Rio deal, why is it, given the above, that Kenyon feels he has to announce "That's it". Is Fergie happy with everyone he's got now? Has the Rio deal been an all consuming one from every aspect ? Is the Plc concerned about the share price, or is it an attempt to calm down rumoured deals whilst they consider one or two others ? All a little puzzling but hopefully it's the latter.
 
Am I the only one who seems enormous potential in Silvestre? Give him another 2 or 3 seasons and he could be the new Carlos. Look at his forward runs and compare them to R.C's of about 5 years ago - theyre both quick, strong and powerful. He made fewer mistakes last season and broke into the full French squad. To me, thats the sign of a maturing player! Sure, we need another strong center back (maybe next season when Blacn finally leaves!) but the Neville brothers, Silvestre, Rio and Wes are stars of the future. Theres no need to go spending another £30 million on a Nesta or Cannovaro just for the sake of it.
 
Originally posted by Dervish:
<strong>Am I the only one who seems enormous potential in Silvestre? Give him another 2 or 3 seasons and he could be the new Carlos. Look at his forward runs and compare them to R.C's of about 5 years ago - theyre both quick, strong and powerful. He made fewer mistakes last season and broke into the full French squad. To me, thats the sign of a maturing player! Sure, we need another strong center back (maybe next season when Blacn finally leaves!) but the Neville brothers, Silvestre, Rio and Wes are stars of the future. Theres no need to go spending another £30 million on a Nesta or Cannovaro just for the sake of it.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Nail on the head.
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Whilst physically you have only handed over half of the Rio fee this summer, surely it's obvious to all that you have in fact spent £33M?

I can't see Ferguson "borrowing" from next years budget in order to bring in rio this year.
 
Originally posted by Knoxy:
<strong>Whilst physically you have only handed over half of the Rio fee this summer, surely it's obvious to all that you have in fact spent £33M?

I can't see Ferguson "borrowing" from next years budget in order to bring in rio this year.</strong><hr></blockquote>


We have spent 33m, and best guess that the reason it was split over two years, would be for us to buy more players this year, if they're available.
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Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>We have spent 33m, and best guess that the reason it was split over two years, would be for us to buy more players this year, if they're available.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Or just to keep Leeds cash-strapped <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
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Originally posted by Dervish:
<strong>he could be the new Carlos.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I was very impressed with his forward runs in the latter half of the last season, still a bit concerned about him defensively. Bobby is small but he is a fecking leech, the moment someone gets into his flank he is all over him and I have hardly seen him lose 1-2-1. I don't see that in Silvestre (hopefully he will get there).

It's just odd he keeps going on about being CB when what he does best is irrelevant for a CB. I hope he abandons the concept and stays with us but we need cover for him regardless. Phil gives me no confidence whatsoever.
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Dervish, I couldn't agree more. Been saying this for a while now. He's the only player who has improved every year he's been with us. Can't ask for more than that.
 
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