I know you say they poll well, but at the end of the day, they failed the only poll that ultimately matters. So I don't think Starmer was wrong in taking a sceptical look at these policies.
Keir Starmer Labour Leader
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It's a good policy and it incentivises parties to treat these people far better than they have been treated up to now.
Agreed.
I don't see how more people living, working and contributing in the country, regardless of where they were born and raised, being allowed to vote and take part in the democratic process is a bad thing (well I understand how it would be seen as a bad thing to right wing xenophobes). It would be a hugely positive step and a boost to British democracy (know I also really want a change to the voting system for GEs and House of Lords reform as well but I've discussed that plenty).
Labour want to encourage and allow more people to vote, while the Tories want to stifle and disenfranchise people (notably younger people) from voting.
De facto labour thread so I’ll shove it here
Should put this in here.
"Did you know - my Dad was a toolmaker, my Mum was a nurse, " -never heard that one before.
"Did you also know that the EU and Brexit is a complete mystery to me"
I see everyone attacked Reeves for this but if you dig deeper you will see she is travelling business class and I can't see an issue with a Shadow Minister travelling like that. As ever on Twitter, people have shouted First Class and its gone around.
She could set an example and fly economy? Labour are forever highlighting Tory decadence on public tab. Why not just learn to be a bit better at politics and stop leaving the hypocrisy net wide open?
I'd love to know what he means because the last time the NHS got involved with a big technology project it cost about 20 billion before they realised it wasn't going to work. Sounds more like a throwaway comment to me though; he probably doesn't know himself what he means.
I agree, she could have but the attack from the left wingers of the Labour Party and Corbynites is funny to see considering they were quiet when Sunak was flying helicopters over short distances.
I don't know about this - surely we want our most senior politicians to fly business on transatlantic flights, and work en route? There's no way she would be able to work on a laptop or read sensitive documents in economy.
Feels like silly point scoring more than anything else.
fully automated not luxury centrism
Would be an own goal for Labour.
There's that double standard again.
Not the right type of racism. What happened to zero tolerance? Starmer is a fecking joke.
I mean what the shit, it's just all so fecking lame. The Tory filth are going to be washed away with buckets of Labour piss, and then everything will just stink of piss forever.
A vote for Labour is literally a vote for the Tories
How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Wanker.
Starmer: "I sit next to Daniel Levy at every home game in the Director's box. What I can't understand is why I only see Arsenal play once a season."
♫ Blue is the colour.....♫
♫ Blue is the colour.....♫
This was in response to Sunak using a private helicopter to go to Southampton. How they can compare the two is mindboggling.
I guess he is worried about holding on to Stockport?
Oh I didn’t even think of that.
Imagine that quote being used in rape and family violence policy....what on earth were they thinking?
I’m voting Tory
I have a real problem with Jamie Driscoll, the incumbent North of Tyne mayor, being blocked from standing again. It is clearly due to internal, petty factionalism.
It's due to the fact that he interviewed Ken Loach, expelled from the party, at a theatre in Newcastle a couple of months ago, to discuss films produced in the North East, and not about anti-semitism, Israel / Palestine etc. Clearing appearing on the same stage as someone does not mean that you share their views. It has clearly also been done in an undemocratic way, with no right to appeal.
Interestingly Alistair Campbell, so not exactly a Corbynite on the left of the party, strongly disagrees with the move, as does Andy Burnham who I'd say falls under the 'soft left' bracket. Driscoll appears to be a very well liked mayor, and has been effective at reaching out across the political spectrum to do what is best for the people he represents, including trying to work constructively with the Tory Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen.
Clearly it's important to view these matters on a case by case basis, and not through a 'left vs. centre' tribal basis. During the Corbyn years for example, I vehemently disagreed with the treatment of Luciana Berger and though that the attempted motion of no confidence in her was a disgraceful, while on the flipside I thought that the attempted motion of no confidence in Margaret Hodge (who smeared and slandered Corbyn and was clearly undermining the party even encouraging people to vote against it ahead of the Euro elections which was far worse than Campbell saying he voted for the Lib Dems after polling closed) was 100% justified.
It's due to the fact that he interviewed Ken Loach, expelled from the party, at a theatre in Newcastle a couple of months ago, to discuss films produced in the North East, and not about anti-semitism, Israel / Palestine etc. Clearing appearing on the same stage as someone does not mean that you share their views. It has clearly also been done in an undemocratic way, with no right to appeal.
Interestingly Alistair Campbell, so not exactly a Corbynite on the left of the party, strongly disagrees with the move, as does Andy Burnham who I'd say falls under the 'soft left' bracket. Driscoll appears to be a very well liked mayor, and has been effective at reaching out across the political spectrum to do what is best for the people he represents, including trying to work constructively with the Tory Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen.
Clearly it's important to view these matters on a case by case basis, and not through a 'left vs. centre' tribal basis. During the Corbyn years for example, I vehemently disagreed with the treatment of Luciana Berger and though that the attempted motion of no confidence in her was a disgraceful, while on the flipside I thought that the attempted motion of no confidence in Margaret Hodge (who smeared and slandered Corbyn and was clearly undermining the party even encouraging people to vote against it ahead of the Euro elections which was far worse than Campbell saying he voted for the Lib Dems after polling closed) was 100% justified.
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It doesn't sit right there is no appeal available. Also seems strange that he has not been given the opportunity to disassociate himself from Loach's views on the party. Maybe Driscoll's supporters could try and have the process debated at conference.
Wouldn't be surprised if Starmer comes out in support of Boris Johnson at this point and calls it a witch hunt.
Meh. Think I'm gonna be a non voter next election. What's the point. Well done you've finally worn me down.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
They have a fetish for being yelled at by the left. This stuff is the only way they can climax.
They'll do it when they've made Brexit work.
The climate pledge was literally the only thing keeping my vote Labour. If they scale that back in their eventual manifesto i'll be voting elsewhere.