Napoli had their issues but he was impressive. I think we need a guy like that, a big feck off warrior of a guy that is imposing, a fan favourite, a guy that brooks no argument. You know the lift the crowd gets when your centre half puts the no 9 into the crowd. We haven't had much of that lately.
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Little ive seen from him makes me want to splash all the cash in him in january.
Perfect age for what we need right now, and a great combination of beeing a tank, fast, techniqual and intelligent player.
Perfect age for what we need right now, and a great combination of beeing a tank, fast, techniqual and intelligent player.
I like him but i find it almost impossible to get excited about signing a defender (especially a cb) at this moment in time when our attackers collectively can't hit a barn door.
There are probably 20 offensive players I would rather sign than him, for the money he is rumoured to be worth.
There are probably 20 offensive players I would rather sign than him, for the money he is rumoured to be worth.
This forum really gives absolutely no credit to the professionals working at the club at all. You would think someone as educated as Woodward was a complete idiot. He uses Varane as one example in a quote and since then he wouldn’t spend more than a tenner on anyone who isn’t Varane.
I think you are right. Sadly.
I'd happily take Varane although I dont think he would be available. I think Ed should should not be so concerned about how much much a potential signing could bring in rather than than suitability to produce on the pitch.
Great player. Must be time for him to move on now from Napoli.
It would be a step in the right direction, but would really only solve 50% of the problem. We currently have 5 centre backs who are all decent but not good enough. Even if we signed Koulibaly, I'd like to see us try and nab Alderweireld.
Insane player, one of the best central defenders in the world right now and can still improve.
I'd rather him than Varane by quiet a bit to be honest, I think Varane lacks the momentary aggressiveness premier league defenders need that Koulibaly tends to show. He's also a bit more on the lighter side for a defender in comparison to Koula
I'd rather him than Varane by quiet a bit to be honest, I think Varane lacks the momentary aggressiveness premier league defenders need that Koulibaly tends to show. He's also a bit more on the lighter side for a defender in comparison to Koula
Really hope that I am wrong on this one and that he is willing to spend the money on whoever we need.
I give credit when I think its due.
I would give a lot more credit to Ed and also my opinion of him would get a lot better if he handed over control of transfers to some who knew more about football than him.
Woodward is educated in finances, he is an investment banker and brilliant at making money for United.
Unfortunately when it comes to footballing matters, he is horseshit.
Exactly mate. We need to stop giving a feck about the cost and wages but more importantly about the popularity of the player. Half of our so called Galactico signings in hindsight seems poorly planned and did not suit the system we were trying to play. Man Utd needs to give preference to ability and compatability over popularity.
Hard to give credit to any of them when they think 75m£ for RomeNile LuRanger is ok..
He pretty much made the point that he wouldn't mind spending big bucks on marketable popular players but not on relatively unknowns and untested which is exactly what KK is.
Jesus Christ
If it take VVD-like fee, he's still worth it. If we have any chance of buying him and if he was any interested, we should do everything we can. Brilliant player
We could probably get him for around 60m£ plus either Bailly or Lindelöf.
Whats "attainable" ?
Chelsea had a big bid rejected. No doubt we'd have to pay a lot more than hes worth
I don't think they'll sell him for £45 million
Think we would have to pay a lot more for players than any club because is it is us and the clubs know we have cash and are in desperate need of quality players
£40 million more?
How on earth did you get 45m£ out of what I wrote?
Was joking, but only a little, that £60 million + Lindelof or Bailly is worth £45 million
Oh, ok, well I could see them accepting that as they would get a quite big fee plus they wouldn't even have to worry about replacing him.
And it would be the reasonable thing to do. We can't keep spending like that. There are quite a few talented CBs out there, who would cost a lot less. If we really need someone experienced, we could probably find someone else.
I think they'd very much have to worry about replacing him with those players. But yeah the £60 million gives them enough to take a chance on somebody
I understand why you do but the italian league is of atrocious quality, someone like Lindelöf would probably shine over there.
Maybe. But based on their performances this season I think their defense losing a really good CB and replacing them with players of that level of performance would leave them extremely vulnerable
Although I hope Lindelof stays here and comes good. I would gladly take the above mentioned deal.
I feel the same. Would immediately improve us.
The Italian league is a very demanding league for players and is of high quality. The players get a great education from a tactical standpoint. Your post is very ignorant regards Serie A.
Agreed. I think a lot of people are losing sight of what represents value because of the perceived success of the van Dijk transfer for Liverpool. The reality is he hasn't transformed that defence by himself, they spent £65m on a goalkeeper and Joe Gomez has also been excellent this season.
It's not realistic or fair for us to spend £80/90m on a defender and expect it to work when we plump them into a failing system.
Based on what you say about Liverpool, we already have the goalkeeper in place. Maybe we should go all out for Koulibally and get someone like Milenkovic who I read is valued at around £50m to go next to him.
He would be brilliant for us. If we can get Alderweireld aswell, even better.
Are you serious? One team has been strolling through the league for the past 8 years with no one even close to challenging. Did you see Napoli against Liverpool today? They were quite frankly a joke. Inter drew at home against psv and Milan has been complete rubbish for some time now and these are all of their supposed "top teams" mid table to bottom half teams in that league is comedy to watch. Serie A used to be one of the greatest leagues if not the greatest in the world at one point but face it, these days it's garbage. Anyone of those teams I mentioned would probably lose to a team like Wolves in a 2 legged tie.
100% agreed. Those posters that over analyse every single small detail in defenders are out of touch with the reality. So what if he got beat once in a foot race? I remember Vidic used to get embarrassed everytime he came up against Torres. And what? didn't stop him from being part of watertight defence that lead us to three back to back consecutive PL titles did it? Koulibaly you know what you're getting an elite level defender but having said that wouldn't spend any more than 80 ،million
Even de Gea hasn't hit the same standards he usually does for us this season. Regardless, there's still risk involved. Just because it worked for Liverpool it doesn't mean it will automatically translate for us by virtue of spending - we've seen that with players like Sanchez and Lukaku.
I don't necessarily have anything against Koulibaly but I'd like to think we're more sensible than just stumping up an enormous fee for whoever's flavour of the month at the time of signing. One thing we can learn from Liverpool is there's value in coaching players. We don't have to write off every defender we have at the club currently just because it isn't working now.
Attainable in the sense if we pay the cash demanded we'll land him. As opposed to our targets in the glory days i.e Bale, Ramos where no amount of money would have made a difference.
No it isnt. If we have to compete with oil money we have to spend like the Shieks would you prefer the Glazers pocket the money instead? Every week I read a new article about United being a financial juggernaut so why not spend the cash the club generates? Why should we settle for mediocrity?
Buying KK is a wonderful oppurtunity, you dont really get players like that on the market which are "attainable" (not playing for a team bigger than us basically) and not being hunted by the likes of Barca or Real. We would be fools if we proceed to penny pinch here. Would be reminiscent of us missing out on Hazard trying to save a few quid.
Spend, 90m so that we can park the bus effectively, annoy opponents and snatch a 1-0 win is basically what mourinho means at this point.
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