Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

JaffyJoe said:
The most aggressive pressing team in the league vs a team who struggles to play out of the press. Hopefully Mourinho has learned his lesson from the City game. Knowing him I imagine we will sit deep and compact and try and hit them on the break, to work that needs players who play well under pressure and who can make good decisions, our attackers and our attacking tempo also needs to be quick to take advantage of gaps. The Liverpool attack looks so fluid at the moment so I'm expecting them to score at Anfield, we need three men in midfield, two to sit and one who will press their dm when we are out of out of possession, get in those half spaces when in possession and help launch passes that open them up on the break. personally I would play Pogba in that role with Blind and Herrera as the two sitting midfielders.

I'm skeptical but genuinely won't be able to cal this until I see how we line up.
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From what I saw of the pundits recent analysis of Pogba he has almost been playing as another striker at times,leaving acres of space in midfield with Herrera then getting exposed.
You can't afford to do that against us. I suspect Mourinho will play a more cautious and solid midfield set up.
 
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johnny boy said:
From what I saw of the pundits recent analysis of Pogba he has almost been playing as another striker at times,leaving acres of space in midfield with Herrera then getting exposed.
You can't afford to do that against us. I suspect Mourinho will play a more cautious and sold midfield set up.
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He's been better in that regard since the City game, where it was deservedly highlighted. However, in general I agree. I don't think we can afford a midfield 2 of Herrera and Pogba, with someone like Mata ahead, against quality opposition. I'd probably like to see Carrick and Herrera, with Pogba ahead.
 
johnny boy said:
From what I saw of the pundits recent analysis of Pogba he has almost been playing as another striker at times,leaving acres of space in midfield with Herrera then getting exposed.
You can't afford to do that against us. I suspect Mourinho will play a more cautious and solid midfield set up.
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The lads a bit of a mess thus far, but he'll come good. How we defend the space is going to be so important and he is prone to losing his man so that's why I would prefer two midfielders behind him.
 
Stolen, but some cracking quotes :lol:, probably been posted before at some point but felt it was worth a repost.


20. On losing the 2013 Champions League final: “The only thing I can say is that it was great. London is the town of the Olympic Games. The weather was good, everything is OK. Only the result is sh*t.”

19. On his playing days: “I never succeeded in bringing to the field what was going on in my brain. I had the talent for the fifth division, and the mind for the Bundesliga. The result was a career in the second division.”

18. On winning at least one trophy in four years at Liverpool: “When I sit here in four years I would say we won one title. If not next time [I will manage] in Switzerland.”

17. On rumours of Mats Hummels joining Manchester United: “If that’s not a bullsh*t story, I’ll eat a broomstick.”

16. On Bayern Munich: “We have a bow and arrow and if we aim well, we can hit the target. The problem is that Bayern has a bazooka. But then Robin Hood was quite successful.”

15. On purple bins: “We had a good plan in the first half but conceded two goals, so you can throw your plan in the purple bin.”

14. On Dortmund’s poor 2014: “The best news today is that football is over for 2014, any criticism that we receive now is justified. We are standing here like complete idiots and it’s completely our own fault.”

13. On beating Bayern 5-2 in the German Cup final in 2012: “It could have been a bit warmer.”

12. On Bayern Munich again: “At the moment, they are like the Chinese in the business world. They look at what others are doing and copy it, just with more money.”

11. On remaining discreet in public: “In extreme situations, you have to think fast. At one of my mates’ stag parties, we all dressed up as Father Christmas – fully masked.”

10. On Arsene Wenger: “He likes having the ball, playing football, passes. It’s like an orchestra. But it’s a silent song. I like heavy metal.”

9. On his wife: “She wrote a book for children. It’s like Harry Potter – but it’s about football. There’s no Harry Potter flying on his f***ing stick – just football.”

8. On an Alberto Moreno goal being ruled out in a defeat to Newcastle: “We made our goal but because we weren’t good enough today the linesman thought: ‘Well, you don’t make world class goals if you play this sh*t’.”

7. On losing to Crystal Palace – the only defeat in his first ten Liverpool games: “I would really like to change my personality, but I can’t forget this f***ing loss against Crystal Palace.”

6. On Henrikh Mkhitaryan: “Mkhitaryan fits us like an arse on a bucket. What he offers is exactly what we need.”

5. On Mario Gotze: “Gotze has gone because he is Guardiola‘s personal chosen signing and he wants to play with Guardiola, in his style. It’s my fault. I can’t make myself 15cm shorter or start speaking Spanish.”

4. On Barcelona: “I show my team very often Barcelona but not the way they play. Just the way they celebrate goals. Goal no 5768 in the last few weeks and they go ‘Yeeeess’ like they never scored a goal. This is what I love about football. That’s what you have to feel all the time. Until you die. And then everything is OK.”

3. On explaining to a Schalke fan how to win the Bundesliga: “How do you explain to a blind person what colour is?”

2. On himself: “The problem with my life is that I’ve said too much sh*t in the past and no-one forgets it.”

1. On his first red card as a manager: “I’m a bit proud of my first red card as a coach. I approached the fourth official and said: ‘How many mistakes are allowed here? If it’s 15, you have one more.'”
 
:lol: ok that's some classic kloppo material right there
 
Some scouser named Alvin on TalkSport earlier was insinuating that Klopp is a better all round manager than Sir Alex and that Pool WILL win the league.
 
dwd said:
Some scouser named Alvin on TalkSport earlier was insinuating that Klopp is a better all round manager than Sir Alex and that Pool WILL win the league.
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No he didn't. He said that modern managers, including Klopp, do more than SAF in terms of day-to-day coaching. Alvin Martin just said that Ferguson was a manager of players but allowed coaches to run the training sessions. It was a comparison of approach rather than saying Klopp is better.
 
PickledRed said:
No he didn't. He said that modern managers, including Klopp, do more than SAF in terms of day-to-day coaching. Alvin Martin just said that Ferguson was a manager of players but allowed coaches to run the training sessions. It was a comparison of approach rather than saying Klopp is better.
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Yeah Ferguson was more of a figurehead than modern coaches, which makes it even more baffling that Moyes got rid of all his staff.
 
Sam M said:
Holy smokes. An innocuous comment and the Liverpool brigade arrive and demand evidence!

Liverpool fans are arrogant by default, it's in their nature.
Strange how this needs pointing out on a Manchester United forum.
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Evidence la ?

The Scal-Qeeda are on your case.
 
Sam M said:
Yes, Liverpool have really moved up in the world.
1 trophy in 10 years or so.
Approaching Arsenal levels....
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How about the next 10 years? I'd (unfortunately) bank on them being moderately successful. Of course it's very hard to tell at this point, but it's just a prediction.
 
IgnorantLobster said:
How about the next 10 years? I'd (unfortunately) bank on them being moderately successful. Of course it's very hard to tell at this point, but it's just a prediction.
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No reason to think that at all about from a knee jerk reaction to very little.
It would be highly unlikely, given they're 4 clubs already with superior buying power, they're Liverpool, and they're Liverpool.
 
Ruffian said:
Ah, bitterness. I almost remember that feeling..
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:lol: You're talking like Liverpool have had any success in the last 10 years.

feck me, we are 7 games into a new season. Delusional beyond belief. Reminds me of the Rodgers days before that went tits up...
 
Sam M said:
No reason to think that at all about from a knee jerk reaction to very little.
It would be highly unlikely, given they're 4 clubs already with superior buying power, they're Liverpool, and they're Liverpool.
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I think they could win a couple trophies in the next 10 years. This is not a 'kneejerk reaction', you can see in the Top 4 predictions thread that I predicted them to get top 4 this season before a game was played, as I think they have improved a fair bit. They certainly won't win the league this season, but what seriously makes you think they won't win anything in the next 10 years, other than the fact "they're Liverpool"?
 
IgnorantLobster said:
I think they could win a couple trophies in the next 10 years. This is not a 'kneejerk reaction', you can see in the Top 4 predictions thread that I predicted them to get top 4 this season before a game was played, as I think they have improved a fair bit. They certainly won't win the league this season, but what seriously makes you think they won't win anything in the next 10 years, other than the fact "they're Liverpool"?
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Te same reason we were sure Spurs and Arsenal were not gonna win last season. They are bottlers
 
IgnorantLobster said:
I think they could win a couple trophies in the next 10 years. This is not a 'kneejerk reaction', you can see in the Top 4 predictions thread that I predicted them to get top 4 this season before a game was played, as I think they have improved a fair bit. They certainly won't win the league this season, but what seriously makes you think they won't win anything in the next 10 years, other than the fact "they're Liverpool"?
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'Pool are approaching Spurs level of loser-ness when it comes to silverware. And you wouldn't bet on Spurs on winning anything would you?
 
Not sure if Liverpool will win the league, but there's a sniff. However, two things have emerged in the post-SAF era.

1. The league appears more volatile and less settled in terms of the top 4
2. United are no longer the 'go-to' pick when asked who will win the league

These two factors have increased the chances for Liverpool doing well.
 
If Leicester won the league last season, then yes, obviously Klopp can win it with Liverpool.

At some point it's bound to happen, I just hope Mourinho can build a good enough side to get us up there.
 
PickledRed said:
Not sure if Liverpool will win the league, but there's a sniff. However, two things have emerged in the post-SAF era.

1. The league appears more volatile and less settled in terms of the top 4
2. United are no longer the 'go-to' pick when asked who will win the league

These two factors have increased the chances for Liverpool doing well.
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A mate of mine said in the summer that it'll be harder than ever for us to win the league because of the quality of managers at the likes of City, United, Chelsea etc. I disagreed with him on the basis that these clubs will drop more points to each other, & to the likes of ourselves, Spurs, & Arsenal. Therefore a lower points total than in previous years will probably be sufficient to becoming champions. Only 7 games in I know, but I've not seen anything to change my mind as of yet. Still think City are capable of putting in good runs on a regular basis though. They'll see off most of the teams not mentioned above, so we have to hope they drop a lot of points when playing the title challengers.
 
They were close a few years ago, but buckled near the end. The difference this time is Klopp - he's experienced and has won things, he's a very good motivator..he knows what it takes near the end...

So yes, I think they will be right up there and have a good chance this season.
 
togg said:
They were close a few years ago, but buckled near the end. The difference this time is Klopp - he's experienced and has won things, he's a very good motivator..he knows what it takes near the end...

So yes, I think they will be right up there and have a good chance this season.
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Buckled is a strong term. Liverpool won 12 of the last 14 games, losing 1. Essentially they had to have an almost perfect final third of the season to win the league. It was a huge ask that nearly paid off.
 
PickledRed said:
Buckled is a strong term. Liverpool won 12 of the last 14 games, losing 1. Essentially they had to have an almost perfect final third of the season to win the league. It was a huge ask that nearly paid off.
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Remember when Gerrard's legs bucked? Haha, yeah good times.
 
Kraftwerker said:
You'd think Liverpool fans would try to curb the casual racism, given events of the last few years.
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Reading through the last few pages, there's some Man United fans making an absolute embarrassment of themselves, from belittling every achievement Liverpool have had since whenever to attributing the views of a few (or, worse, false quotes) to every Liverpool fan, but none more so than you with that pathetic attempt to silence a riposte aimed at Utd fans. You should be ashamed of yourself.

On the other hand, if you really believed that amounted to 'casual racism' I can only imagine your fury when fellow Utd fans were calling Benitez the Fat Spanish Waiter or telling the world how Park Ji-Sung liked eating dogs.


Piratesoup said:
Don't care about the post but thumbs up for the blackadder reference name.
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Cheers. It was a very brief reference, as you must know, designed to smoke out the real fans.

The BlackGaijin said:
I expected you guys to take a little banter without taking it so personally. Man, those 26 years really stripped away all sense of humor huh?
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You might want to address that remark to the Boy Who Cried Racist - but replace the 26 years with three, given that's how long it's taken for some of you guys to go into meltdown.

Anyway, putting the risible comments from some Utd fans aside (the majority are putting across fair arguments or indulging in nothing more than cheeky banter) and getting back on topic, I don't think we'll win the title this year (City will). We'll do well to make the top four given the competition this year and the fact we're still far from the finished product, both in terms of players needed and in fully adapting to Klopp's pressing style. Still, I said before the season started that we'd finish 5th (with Spurs 6th) and I'll revise that to say that I certainly think we've both got a fighting chance of getting CL football next season, as much so as Utd and Chelsea (both of whom I had in the top 4).

As for Klopp himself, I was over the moon when we got him, and I still am. He's a great manager with a real positive and ambitious approach who demands his teams entertain as well as win, and we did well to get him.And I really couldn't give a feck about any opposition fans moaning about his celebrations or whatever petty stick they want to beat him with.
 
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marjen said:
If Leicester won the league last season, then yes, obviously Klopp can win it with Liverpool.

At some point it's bound to happen, I just hope Mourinho can build a good enough side to get us up there.
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Ok, if the logic now is that Leicester won the league that Liverpool can win it then my money is on Watford.

IgnorantLobster said:
I think they could win a couple trophies in the next 10 years. This is not a 'kneejerk reaction', you can see in the Top 4 predictions thread that I predicted them to get top 4 this season before a game was played, as I think they have improved a fair bit. They certainly won't win the league this season, but what seriously makes you think they won't win anything in the next 10 years, other than the fact "they're Liverpool"?
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Fair comment but what proof is there that they have improved? The finished in the same position last year as the year before didnt they? If a good start to the season is what your basing your opinion theyve improved on (7 games) you should remember we were top this time last season after some really convincing performances under LvG.

In reality we cant make any real assessment of any teams chances until after christmas. Theyre playing well and if that continues for the whole season theyll be inn with a shout but there isnt much you can get from 7 games that will tell you yes or no.

Leicester last season were very lucky, the stars aligned, few injuries, players having their best seasons, meeting other teams at the right times. Thats not going to happen that often.
 
ObelOitment Fungentula said:
Reading through the last few pages, there's some Man United fans making an absolute embarrassment of themselves, from belittling every achievement Liverpool have had since whenever to attributing the views of a few (or, worse, false quotes) to every Liverpool fan, but none more so than you with that pathetic attempt to silence a riposte aimed at Utd fans. You should be ashamed of yourself.

On the other hand, if you really believed that amounted to 'casual racism' I can only imagine your fury when fellow Utd fans were calling Benitez the Fat Spanish Waiter or telling the world how Park Ji-Sung liked eating dogs.
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Quite the rant. My post was a little tongue-in-cheek highlighting that a fan base blighted by accusations of racism in recent years probably should avoid statements that can be construed as racist, even if just casually. But you don't like being called out do you?

You choose to post on a Man United forum and it's entirely up to you how you want to spend your brief mains privilege each week. There are a few decent Liverpool fans on here, we don't need any more of the parasitic types polluting the mains with derogatory remarks about United fans being noodle-eating Asians. Your intention was to offend based on race. If that's your bag, fair enough.

Good luck getting out of the newbs. :)
 
Green_Red said:
Ok, if the logic now is that Leicester won the league that Liverpool can win it then my money is on Watford.


Fair comment but what proof is there that they have improved? The finished in the same position last year as the year before didnt they? If a good start to the season is what your basing your opinion theyve improved on (7 games) you should remember we were top this time last season after some really convincing performances under LvG.

In reality we cant make any real assessment of any teams chances until after christmas. Theyre playing well and if that continues for the whole season theyll be inn with a shout but there isnt much you can get from 7 games that will tell you yes or no.

Leicester last season were very lucky, the stars aligned, few injuries, players having their best seasons, meeting other teams at the right times. Thats not going to happen that often.
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Agree with the bolded part but it's naive to compare their start to the season with LVG's start to the season last year. They look much better than last season's United. We crumbled in our first more difficult fixture and lost 3:0 from Arsenal. And did not play so well, not by a long mile.
 
Kraftwerker said:
Quite the rant. My post was a little tongue-in-cheek highlighting that a fan base blighted by accusations of racism in recent years probably should avoid statements that can be construed as racist, even if just casually. But you don't like being called out do you?

You choose to post on a Man United forum and it's entirely up to you how you want to spend your brief mains privilege each week. There are a few decent Liverpool fans on here, we don't need any more of the parasitic types polluting the mains with derogatory remarks about United fans being noodle-eating Asians. Your intention was to offend based on race. If that's your bag, fair enough.

Good luck getting out of the newbs. :)
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Trying to row back from your initial charge, eh? As far as I can see, the only person who construed that remark as racist was you. And, no, I don't like being accused of indulging in 'casual racism'. You think that's odd? You haven't a clue.

If I was concerned about getting out of the newbs I'd chart a different course than taking issue with long-standing Utd posters like you, wouldn't I. Far better to stand my ground than suck up to the cheap-shot merchants to get that 'all-important' 10 likes.

Edited to say that I won't be replying to you anymore. This is way off-topic, and you don't strike me as someone I could ever have a reasonable discussion with. If that keeps me in the newbs then so be it.
 
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Green_Red said:
Ok, if the logic now is that Leicester won the league that Liverpool can win it then my money is on Watford.
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Liverpool's a very good side. Watford isn't. Leicester winning the title shows what's possible with a cohesive team performing to the utmost of their abilities. Liverpool under Klopp's getting closer to that, and with much better players than Leicester to boot.
 
ObelOitment Fungentula said:
Trying to row back from your initial charge, eh? As far as I can see, the only person who construed that remark as racist was you. And, no, I don't like being accused of indulging in 'casual racism'. You think that's odd? You haven't a clue.

If I was concerned about getting out of the newbs I'd chart a different course than taking issue with long-standing Utd posters like you, wouldn't I. Far better to stand my ground than suck up to the cheap-shot merchants to get that 'all-important' 10 likes.
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Please tell me more about how trying to offend a fanbase based on race isn't racist.

Hey, you spend your hard earned weekend doing whatever you want. If that's posting cheap offensive comments on a Man United website then so be it. Don't let me stop you living the dream.
 
Green_Red said:
Fair comment but what proof is there that they have improved? The finished in the same position last year as the year before didnt they? If a good start to the season is what your basing your opinion theyve improved on (7 games) you should remember we were top this time last season after some really convincing performances under LvG.
In reality we cant make any real assessment of any teams chances until after christmas. Theyre playing well and if that continues for the whole season theyll be inn with a shout but there isnt much you can get from 7 games that will tell you yes or no.
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I make the observation that they have improved just from watching them. For what it's worth I think they've actually been a little lucky this year, but at the end of the day they have gotten 7 points already from away games at Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea. These are games that the vast majority of the league would lose at the very least one of. Having gotten these tough away fixtures out of the way, coupled with the fact they have looked pretty good at Anfield as of late, I unfortunately think they could have a good season by their recent standards. This is simply based on what I have seen this season, and I agree that you can't base anything off their current league position just 7 games in.

Leicester last season were very lucky, the stars aligned, few injuries, players having their best seasons, meeting other teams at the right times. Thats not going to happen that often.
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Not sure if this is a reply to me or not, but I agree. I can't stand people saying 'if Leicester can win the league...' as it was such a ridiculous anomaly that nothing should compare to.
 
IgnorantLobster said:
I make the observation that they have improved just from watching them. For what it's worth I think they've actually been a little lucky this year, but at the end of the day they have gotten 7 points already from away games at Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea. These are games that the vast majority of the league would lose at the very least one of. Having gotten these tough away fixtures out of the way, coupled with the fact they have looked pretty good at Anfield as of late, I unfortunately think they could have a good season by their recent standards. This is simply based on what I have seen this season, and I agree that you can't base anything off their current league position just 7 games in.
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You are right we have had some tough away games, i disagree we have been lucky. To be honest I thought we were unlucky at Tottenham not to get the 3 points.
Do you mean any games in particular?
 
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