Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

I'd list all excuses Mou's ever uses, but I dont think there's enough space on the internet.

Klopp manages Liverpool therefore he sucks. Im sure its fun bashing Liverpool, but it's a bit small time. United should be much bigger than Liverpool. And so should their fans.

Funny you talking about small time.
 
Ajax are probably thinking "The only difference between us losing and Sevilla winning is that we played Manchester United and they played Liverpool".

Brilliant. :lol:

We really need to register the Caf as a press organization and make these kinds of comments when interviewing managers who're talking bollocks.
 
I'd list all excuses Mou's ever uses, but I dont think there's enough space on the internet.

Klopp manages Liverpool therefore he sucks. Im sure its fun bashing Liverpool, but it's a bit small time. United should be much bigger than Liverpool. And so should their fans.
No, United fans criticize Klopp because he makes a point to hypocritically talk about our club, repeatedly. He acts like a bitter and disingenuous clown. Honestly, the tripe he comes up with is beyond belief.

On aggregate, the forum is not this harsh on Pep, even if it is enjoyable watching City lose or Pep screw up.
 
Can we get a full list of all of is excuses/hypocrisy?

Off the top of my head there's -

Too many games
Not enough games
Christmas games (because only Liverpool play multiple games over Christmas)
Dry/hard surface (at Anfield)
Windy stadium (also at Anfield IIRC)
League cup should be abolished (after going all out to win it twice)
Sevilla/Ajax
Plymouth entire population in the box
Long balls (then played long ball against relegation fodder the next game)
Not enough money (then bids crazy amounts for VVD & Keita
That offside

I know there's more. Seems he can't open his mouth without spewing out excuses, hypocrisy and just general bullshit.

Yeah but haven't you heard he has PASHUN!!!11! ??????
 
Well, they could have met you, if we didn't knock you out, couldn't they?
I wouldn't go bragging considering you lost your final and we won ours if I were you. Its like a whiny virgin taking the piss out of his mate for premature ejaculating when he was about to have sex for the first time, because a year later that mate has been laid a fair few times and the virgin, still a whiny virgin.
 
I wouldn't go bragging considering you lost your final and we won ours if I were you. Its like a whiny virgin taking the piss out of his mate for premature ejaculating when he was about to have sex for the first time, because a year later that mate has been laid a fair few times and the virgin, still a whiny virgin.
Shit analogy aside, when you try to make the point "Sevilla was so lucky they didn't meet us, we were so much better than Liverpool that season", it's very ironic that the same Liverpool that you apparently were so much better than knocked you out. I was not bragging, I was merely pointing out the flawed logic in the argument.
 
I'd list all excuses Mou's ever uses, but I dont think there's enough space on the internet.

Klopp manages Liverpool therefore he sucks. Im sure its fun bashing Liverpool, but it's a bit small time. United should be much bigger than Liverpool. And so should their fans.
We will never be too big for banter with Liverpool, you'd have to do a Leeds for that to happen.
 
I'd list all excuses Mou's ever uses, but I dont think there's enough space on the internet.

Klopp manages Liverpool therefore he sucks. Im sure its fun bashing Liverpool, but it's a bit small time. United should be much bigger than Liverpool. And so should their fans.
We will never be too big for banter with Liverpool, you'd have to do a Leeds for that to happen.
 
Shit analogy aside, when you try to make the point "Sevilla was so lucky they didn't meet us, we were so much better than Liverpool that season", it's very ironic that the same Liverpool that you apparently were so much better than knocked you out. I was not bragging, I was merely pointing out the flawed logic in the argument.
Well the original comment was made to take the piss out of a frankly bitter comment by Klopp. Are you happy that your manager says that he doesn't want to talk about us but then goes on to do so, in a way that shows as much disrespect to Ajax as possible?
And all this from the fact that Mou was asked how he'd thought Chelsea and Pool would fare with more games this season. And all he said was that both would find it harder. No digs no sarcastic comment, if Klopp gets that angsty from such an innocuous comment I would worry what will happen because all he's done is show that Mourinho will be able to tweak him when we get to the business end of the season.
Also @Schmiznurf analogy wasn't a shite one, I think it summed up Klopp performance in finals! how many has he now lost in a row? Oh yeah 5 times... la
 
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Well the original comment was made to take the piss out of a frankly bitter comment by Klopp. Are you happy that your manager says that he doesn't want to talk about us but then goes on to do so, in a way that shows as much disrespect to Ajax as possible?
And all this from the fact that Mou was asked how he'd thought Chelsea and Pool would fare with more games this season. And all he said was that both would find it harder. No digs no sarcastic comment, if Klopp gets that angsty from such an innocuous comment I would worry what will happen because all he's done is show that Mourinho will be able to tweak him when we get to the business end of the season.
Also @Schmiznurf analogy wasn't a shite one, I think it summed up Klopp performance in finals how many has he lost in a row? Oh yeah 5 times... la
While I do think Sevilla 15/16 is a stronger team than 16/17 Ajax, I did find the comments unnecessary, and I wish he didn't make them. I am curious to what question he actually responded to though, as I haven't been able to find it, just the quote.
 
Shit analogy aside, when you try to make the point "Sevilla was so lucky they didn't meet us, we were so much better than Liverpool that season", it's very ironic that the same Liverpool that you apparently were so much better than knocked you out. I was not bragging, I was merely pointing out the flawed logic in the argument.


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No, United fans criticize Klopp because he makes a point to hypocritically talk about our club, repeatedly. He acts like a bitter and disingenuous clown. Honestly, the tripe he comes up with is beyond belief.

On aggregate, the forum is not this harsh on Pep, even if it is enjoyable watching City lose or Pep screw up.

This.
 
While I do think Sevilla 15/16 is a stronger team than 16/17 Ajax, I did find the comments unnecessary, and I wish he didn't make them. I am curious to what question he actually responded to though, as I haven't been able to find it, just the quote.
Jose Mourinho said:
‘There is one thing, this season is going be a little more balanced because of the fact the top six are all in European competitions,’ said Mourinho.

‘Not like last season, when Chelsea and Liverpool played all season one match per week, with all the others playing in Europeans competitions — especially us, playing in Europa League.

‘I don’t want to say it was ‘key,’ [for Chelsea] because if I say that, I don’t want to take credit from the credit that they [Chelsea] deserve.

‘But obviously, to play one match per week and one, two or three days off during the week, have no injuries or no accumulation, the same with Liverpool, I think obviously it helps.

‘Now they are going to face a different situation, but with the squad they have and the players they are signing, I think they are going to cope with it'

Not exactly incendiary.
 
What moments stand out for you in particular? Sure he seemed to think he was better than he actually was but I don't remember him ever making excuses or talking about United as much as Klopp does.

He also didn't play up to the cameras and constantly harass the officials like Klopp does. But apparently that's "passion" for you...

There are many.

'It's gonna be difficult to buy without CL but man united surely knows that' before buying balotelli and lallana when we bought Di Maria and falcao

'If you spend 100m you should challenge for title' (about Spurs in 13/14) before spending 100m and ending up 6th

'We will not do a Tottenham' before doing exactly that

'The PL will surprise van gaal this season' before finishing below van gaal that season

He said of himself after the 13/14 season 'I don't think there is anyone better, that is the reality of how I see it'

Not to mention the envelope thing.
 
What moments stand out for you in particular? Sure he seemed to think he was better than he actually was but I don't remember him ever making excuses or talking about United as much as Klopp does.

He also didn't play up to the cameras and constantly harass the officials like Klopp does. But apparently that's "passion" for you...

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/bre...ve-your-tissues-ready-before-entering.410242/

He was a proper nutcase. Klopp has somehow managed to outdo Brentan though.
 
So as the season begins, I see this thread will be an exercise in reading far too much into what Klopp says while performing acrobatics to prove why he's somehow mentally unstable and obsessed with a particular rival.
 
Liverpool fan complaining that man utd fans are bashing liverpool on a man utd forum. I think you're lost mate. This is what you're looking for

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php
I'm not a Liverpool fan whatsoever. I vastly prefer United over Liverpool. I'm saying Liverpool isnt enough of a threat to even bash.

Also not saying I don't dislike Klopp, because he's obviously an overacting rabies ridden maniac.
 
So as the season begins, I see this thread will be an exercise in reading far too much into what Klopp says while performing acrobatics to prove why he's somehow mentally unstable and obsessed with a particular rival.

I don't think he's obsessed with Utd.

I do think he's a knobhead though.
 
I'm not a Liverpool fan whatsoever. I vastly prefer United over Liverpool. I'm saying Liverpool isnt enough of a threat to even bash.

Also not saying I don't dislike Klopp, because he's obviously an overacting rabies ridden maniac.
Not a threat to who?
 
Not a threat to who?
United, in the long term.

Yes United need some time to recuperate from SAF leaving, but I doubt Liverpool will consistently compete with United in the future. Therefore, I think this incessant bashing of Klopp is unnecessary, although admittedly, rather amusing I suppose.
 
Ajax are probably thinking "The only difference between us losing and Sevilla winning is that we played Manchester United and they played Liverpool".
Take a bow, good sir. This post alone is generating a couple of days of angered scouse fans standing up for their hipster hypocrite, only confirming that he'll be here for the long run, and many years of comedy to enjoy. :lol:

Damn, I can't wait for the season to start. Hopefully by then, Klopp is in the Europa League because of heavy wind and small town pitch invasions.
 
Shit analogy aside, when you try to make the point "Sevilla was so lucky they didn't meet us, we were so much better than Liverpool that season", it's very ironic that the same Liverpool that you apparently were so much better than knocked you out. I was not bragging, I was merely pointing out the flawed logic in the argument.
We've missed you dearly, Barney! Nice to have you back!
 
I really don't understand his comment about Sevilla and Ajax, you can only play who is in front of you.

To present an alternative scenario, look at the West Ham we played in the penultimate game of the 15/16 season compared to the West Ham they played in the penultimate game of the 16/17 season. Could easily say if we played the 16/17 version of WHU we would have qualified for last seasons CL and if Liverpool played the last ever game at the Boleyn, they wouldn't have qualified for this seasons CL.

Klopp should really look at that but what he should do firstly, is brush his teeth.

:lol::lol:

I feel sorry for the fourth officials and linesmen when he comes in their faces yelling his face off. The blast of heat and the smell must be like opening an oven door cooking a turd inside.
 
United, in the long term.

Yes United need some time to recuperate from SAF leaving, but I doubt Liverpool will consistently compete with United in the future.
Football is far too volatile and changeable to be able to predict a well-planned out and coherent future. 1001 things can happen over a season or two to set a club forward or back that some notion of a bright future isn't at all predictable. Yes SAF leaving has disrupted United but Liverpool have also had two managers since then. Furthermore, what if José left next summer for some reason, is United's future so easy to predict?

As such, declaring that United won't be threatened by Liverpool in the near future is almost entirely guess work. It's also ignoring the positive trajectory that Klopp is undertaking which indicates that Liverpool won't be some distant also-rans.
 
Football is far too volatile and changeable to be able to predict a well-planned out and coherent future. 1001 things can happen over a season or two to set a club forward or back that some notion of a bright future isn't at all predictable. Yes SAF leaving has disrupted United but Liverpool have also had two managers since then. Furthermore, what if José left next summer for some reason, is United's future so easy to predict?

As such, declaring that United won't be threatened by Liverpool in the near future is almost entirely guess work. It's also ignoring the positive trajectory that Klopp is undertaking which indicates that Liverpool won't be some distant also-rans.
Hope is the most beautiful and dangerous thing in life.
 
Football is far too volatile and changeable to be able to predict a well-planned out and coherent future. 1001 things can happen over a season or two to set a club forward or back that some notion of a bright future isn't at all predictable. Yes SAF leaving has disrupted United but Liverpool have also had two managers since then. Furthermore, what if José left next summer for some reason, is United's future so easy to predict?

As such, declaring that United won't be threatened by Liverpool in the near future is almost entirely guess work. It's also ignoring the positive trajectory that Klopp is undertaking which indicates that Liverpool won't be some distant also-rans.
Ofcourse it's mostly guess work, but United has a much bigger appeal than Liverpool in every way imaginable; more money, more fans, more name recognition, more marketable players. Don't mistake me for bashing Liverpool, but it's simply the truth.

The same happened in Holland. Feyenoord and Ajax used to be rivals, but Feyenoord started lagging behind and even though we won the league last season Ajax still hardly bothers bashing us since we're small compared to them. And when they do bash us, I take pride in it, because then we feel like proper rivals. So actually everytime a United fan bashes Liverpool it's a sign they feel somehow threatened by them, which for Liverpool fans, should be a good thing.
 
Ofcourse it's mostly guess work, but United has a much bigger appeal than Liverpool in every way imaginable; more money, more fans, more name recognition, more marketable players. Don't mistake me for bashing Liverpool, but it's simply the truth.

The same happened in Holland. Feyenoord and Ajax used to be rivals, but Feyenoord started lagging behind and even though we won the league last season Ajax still hardly bothers bashing us since we're small compared to them. And when they do bash us, I take pride in it, because then we feel like proper rivals. So actually everytime a United fan bashes Liverpool it's a sign they feel somehow threatened by them, which for Liverpool fans, should be a good thing.

We were bashing Liverpool when we were winning League titles and they were finishing 7th or 8th.

It's the rivalry.
 
Football is far too volatile and changeable to be able to predict a well-planned out and coherent future. 1001 things can happen over a season or two to set a club forward or back that some notion of a bright future isn't at all predictable. Yes SAF leaving has disrupted United but Liverpool have also had two managers since then. Furthermore, what if José left next summer for some reason, is United's future so easy to predict?

As such, declaring that United won't be threatened by Liverpool in the near future is almost entirely guess work. It's also ignoring the positive trajectory that Klopp is undertaking which indicates that Liverpool won't be some distant also-rans.

I think your style of play has improved under Klopp in some ways but statistically he's not doing much different to Brendan.

3 seasons in you really need to step up another level this season. I know the window isn't closed yet but without strengthening the back 4, and with the possibility Coutinho leaves/unsettles, I don't see anything to suggest this term will be a major breakthrough.
 
I think your style of play has improved under Klopp in some ways but statistically he's not doing much different to Brendan.

3 seasons in you really need to step up another level this season. I know the window isn't closed yet but without strengthening the back 4, and with the possibility Coutinho leaves/unsettles, I don't see anything to suggest this term will be a major breakthrough.
Klopp is operating in a much tougher context in relation to the strength of the top 6. The points tally to get into last season's top 4 was a record high. For me, the breakthrough is getting into the CL.

In terms of the current season's predictions, I'd wait to see what deals Liverpool seal before fortune telling. Same goes for the other big sides.
 
My biggest problem with klopp is a big hypocrite but acts like he is some saint. All top managers and professionals are hypocrite but many don't act like they are saint aka jose, sir alex. He is the king of contradiction. Says one thing and does the other.
 
My biggest problem with klopp is a big hypocrite but acts like he is some saint. All top managers and professionals are hypocrite but many don't act like they are saint aka jose, sir alex. He is the king of contradiction. Says one thing and does the other.
My biggest problem with José is a big hypocrite but acts like he is some saint. All top managers and professionals are hypocrite but many don't act like they are saint aka Klopp, Rafa. He is the king of contradiction. Says one thing and does the other.


Literally, fans can't see beyond their nose to smell bias.

In short, we love to see in rivals what can't see in our own.