To be fair, declarations about Jose last July would make a few posters blush in terms of how the league's panned out.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Ok let's rephase it to "what you believe".
The lady doth protest too much.
Those comments, and there are many in the main forum, are great. Don't want Utd to get rid of Jose just yet just as I loved the LvG love in for years. Just breathe it in.
Those comments, and there are many in the main forum, are great. Don't want Utd to get rid of Jose just yet just as I loved the LvG love in for years. Just breathe it in.
I don't see why you are happy. We have been in crisis but have still managed two trophies in four years, hopefully three. All things considered, for a monumental transition stage, it isn't too bad. The financial might of the club mean that it wouldn't be smart to bet on a long term dip.
It is ten years since Liverpool have won a bean. Spurs have only won two League Cups in the past 25 years, nine years since the last! Now those are hard times for a fan considering the ambitions the club's hold.
Lazy, convenient, disingenuous, and most of all deluded of you to reference "10 points united have gained from favourable decisions" without referencing the many United have potentially lost from terrible decisions.
All teams have good luck, and bad luck. In my opinion, luck hasn't evened out for United based on some of the baffling and atrocious calls that have cost us points. However, at the end of the day it is pointless to dwell on it. Learn from what you can improve, and referee performances is not part of that. Better finishing, better zonal marking, more dynamic tactics, etc... should be the focal points. Not the "what ifs"... which you bitterly seem to be harping on about, much like your manager.
We've been a non CL side for God knows how many years. I can still be happy considering I spend most of my time here.
He's won more trophies than Klopp. So did LVG.Those comments, and there are many in the main forum, are great. Don't want Utd to get rid of Jose just yet just as I loved the LvG love in for years. Just breathe it in.
To be fair, I'm not far off either.
Well, you have won the same amount of trophies in England as as Klopp has for Liverpool: zero.
Claiming that you are not far off LVG's united trophy count of 1 or Mourinho's united trophy count of 1 might be a slight stretch of the truth. Unless of course you are Pochetino, Conte, Pep or Wenger.
I predict a bright future for Doofus here.
So who is Doofus? Barney or Bob Lowblow?
It's funny seeing the Rodgers disciples, who verbally fellated him for years, now chucking him under a bus in an attempt to deflect from the lack of tangible achievement in Klopp's reign so far.
What are the odds on us being here in 2 or 3 years with Klopp being chucked under the bus to defend 'Mr Next Messiah', still with no major trophies in the bank.
I've seen these same arguments trotted out for over a decade. And it's fitting to have a United refereeing conspiracy nut job thrown in for good measure.
Plus ça change.
What are the odds on us being here in 2 or 3 years with Klopp being chucked under the bus to defend 'Mr Next Messiah', still with no major trophies in the bank.
I've seen these same arguments trotted out for over a decade. And it's fitting to have a United refereeing conspiracy nut job thrown in for good measure.
Plus ça change.
Suspect he doesn't have too much time left with us.
Doofus by name, Doofus by nature....
We've been a non CL side for God knows how many years. I can still be happy considering I spend most of my time here.
You qualified for CL just two seasons ago.
Yeah, funny how Rodgers was lauded as the second coming of Shankly in their famous "coming second in the league" season.
Come on KM, don't let truth get in the way of the Scouse narrative.
Goodnight, sweet prince.
You know that works both ways? I bet plenty of United fans on here slated him a couple of years ago, and now find themselves defending him whilst making him out to be a better manager than Klopp.
The fairest way of looking at it is that Rodgers wasn't as good as we'd all hoped he was and he's certainly not a better manager than Klopp, but Klopp needs to win something soon or he's no different to Rodgers or any of the other Liverpool managers we've had recently.
Rodgers deserves to be criticised for his failings in my opinion, just like Klopp will deserve it if he achieves nothing.
Im fairly impressed at how he's made average or semi- good players play really good. Milner, Wijnaldum, Can, Lallana, Origi, Firmino..
Its as if he's upped their technical levels. They are able to play really fast technical football.
Don't think they have enough money available to buy players above the level their players are now. But a super season from Mane could send them in top two next year.
Its as if he's upped their technical levels. They are able to play really fast technical football.
Don't think they have enough money available to buy players above the level their players are now. But a super season from Mane could send them in top two next year.
As long as that trophy is singular and rhymes with dickey's house, It's the ideal cover to keep him. Breathing...
As long as that trophy is singular and rhymes with dickey's house, It's the ideal cover to keep him. Breathing...
Mocking the only trophy your lot have won in the past decade. Alright then.
Did you know Wenger had the chance to sign Klopp two years ago?
Ah, Klopp doesn't want to win trophies. Gotcha!As long as that trophy is singular and rhymes with dickey's house, It's the ideal cover to keep him. Breathing...
I'll admit José can be a liability, but I've been pleasantly surprised with him so far at United. At this point, as a former José sceptic, I'd be very disappointed if he left.
I think there's too much upheaval still in his life (dad, kids in London, hotels, etc) which is producing the frustrations resulting in throwing his players under the bus.
Well, he does like buses.
I disagree, but you could be right. Time will tell with José, as it will with Mr. Klopp.
Where did he step on a landmine?
That's a 2nd Liverpool fan I predicted he'll get a ban.
Hm I might be good at this.
How do posters like @Doofus get in the mains?
And what does that tell you ? That Klopp waves a magic wand and the players can now do what they were incapable of ? Or that, in fact, it is your bias that rates these players as 'average or semi- good players' when in fact they are nothing of the sort and are indeed much better than your biased assessment ? Do you think a team of 'average or semi- good players' could go unbeaten against the Top 7 teams ? Seriously ? Club bias can be leveled at every one of us on here however you are taking that well over the line.
Aren't all newbies allowed X amount of posts in the mains per day ?
Were Liverpool fans supposed to not be impressed by a manager that took the side to a whisker of the title? Were Liverpool fans not supposed to become frustrated at a team and manager that lost 6-1 to Stoke?
It's as if sometimes some people change their mind...what's that about?
I thought Doofus was showing immense promise, meself. Now he's back at RAWK complaining that no alternative view is tolerated over here, .
.Jeez, calm down sir. I was saying Klopp was a great coach taking them up a level, but you give me more question-marks than Dirk Kuyt's haircut deserves. Let me answer them though.
And what does that tell you?
That you've written this post at 6 in the morning in a rush of coke?
Does Klopp haz a magic wand?
Yes. The Harry Potter of Yawnwards. Same glasses and you'll get the stick season after season. Voldemort: good riddance.
Were the players incapable of these things before?
Yes, sort of:
Wijnaldum is doing it regularly now in a different position than at Newcastle where he was "okay" - very much in and out and had a streak of very crappy games.
Milner has always been neat, but he's having the best season of his career.
Can was a talent and when him and Markovic joined, they obviously didnt make it both. Could Can had gone the way of Markovic? Yes.
Firmino: I thought he looked shite/much incomplete in the videos/games I saw of him before he joined.
Lallana's reached great levels this year too. Clearly he didn't play this well at first under Rodgers, beginning of Klopp.
Origi: Talent, but Klopp's made him click very well. Could he end up a striker like Benteke at Palace? Yes. With the negatives and positives of that.
That my bias rates them average or semi-good players?
No you're probably right, i should have rephrased myself:
- Milner is the Marcelo of the world.
- Wijnaldum: Iniesta mk II
- Origi: All threads should from now on be named "GOAT 2017: Ronaldo / Messi / Origi?"
... I can up myself to label some of them "good" - but my point was that Klopp makes/utilizes them better than the normal manager would - Klopp's clearly developed them being good at playing technical and doing it fast, which serves well against big teams. They run more, and they play to their very best capabilities if you ask me.
Do you think a team of 'average or semi- good players' could go unbeaten against the Top 7 teams?
Is that like winning the championship to you? Apparantly a great/world-class team can beaten by Hull, Wolves, Leicester, Bournemouth, Burnley too.
The answer is: You're rephrasing my words. I said certain players were average/semi-good. Not the whole squad. But if we play on your premise then yes, an average team can even win the league (Leicester).
Seriously?
Yes, should I pass you the Marc Albrighton brochure?
@ROFLUTION I think it's reasonable to assess Klopp has having had a positive impact on these players. However, he's tapped into their ability rather than made them good. He's playing good footballers in a system that complements their attributes. But Firmino, for example, wasn't made good by Klopp. He's a really good footballer who has found a role at Liverpool that really plays to his strengths.
Klopp wouldn't keep a host of average players on the books - or semi-good plodders. For instance, Ibe was sent packing because he simply wasn't good enough.
Klopp wouldn't keep a host of average players on the books - or semi-good plodders. For instance, Ibe was sent packing because he simply wasn't good enough.
Jesus, that is one really crap / messy post, to say nothing of being childish. I'd refrain from now on if I were you because that is like a mad woman's piss.
The fact that he brought up net spend is embarrassing enough.
You ask me 6 fecking questions at 6 in the morning, get answers to all of them and now you put your fingers in your ears yelling *THATS CRAP, LA LA LAAAA*.My guess is that your next reply will be with no arguments, telling me "Nah mate, your post is just really terrible" or something along the likes of that
Idiot.Edit: Nah, way better to edit your own post and elaborate that I'm being childish. Then go on being very mature calling my post 'mad woman's piss'. Still no arguments, thumbs up.
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It baffles me why anyone other than a Utd fan would bother spending time on the Caf. I would need to have a serious word with myself if I ever started spending my free time posting on RAWK.I thought Doofus was showing immense promise, meself. Now he's back at RAWK complaining that no alternative view is tolerated over here,
A lot of them are ok to be honest and they come here because they can talk about their club with us without us trolling them or treating them like garbage, the other team forums are fanatical for the most part and don't accept anything but a hard on for the team in question.