Jurgen Klopp and Dortmund

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im a little worried that news of us being interested in Klopp are being leaked in 2014.
 
Shouldn't be a surprise we're being linked with Klopp, every big team under the sun will be linked when he leaves Dortmund. Fantastic to see Gundogan training again.

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Bloody love big Klopp. Doesn't matter who he loses to buyout clauses or contracts being run out, or who's out injured, always brilliant watching his team play.

This man needs to manage United at some stage :cool:
 
It might be controversial, but I think Klopp is the best manager in the world now that Fergie has retired. I don't care if he hasn't won the CL yet or that he's only been in the "scene" for 4-5 years. What he has done with Dortmund is amazing, and I don't think any other manager(except Fergie) could have done the same.
 
It might be controversial, but I think Klopp is the best manager in the world now that Fergie has retired. I don't care if he hasn't won the CL yet or that he's only been in the "scene" for 4-5 years. What he has done with Dortmund is amazing, and I don't think any other manager(except Fergie) could have done the same.

I think taking into account personality and footballing philosophy I have to agree. Simeone's transformation of Atletico has perhaps been even more remarkable though.
 
Love the big man, he'd be brilliant at United although would he come? He seems quite attached to Dortmund. Can anyone tell me why he needs a translator, I've seen him speak English and it's as good as Van Gaal's. And the translator on Klopp's left, why was he so .. showy?

Klopp just doesn't want things to be taken the wrong way. Like for example not that long ago when he mentioned United and people started talking about him going there, which of course wasn't what he said. That translator is basically translating EVERYTHING, even the way Klopp says things, which is quite funny because it's like someone doing an impression. Well, at least people get the point now ;)
 
If he moves to PL, he will defo be in contention to be considered among the managerial greats.. He has to win the CL, and that's going to be tough with Bayern poaching all his best players...
 
That's what I assumed. Thanks. Would he even consider coming to Manchester post Van Gaal?

Klopp is someone who always says how important contracts are. There is practically no way that he'll leave Dortmund before 2018, which is when his contract expires. He's also in love with basically every part of the club, the fans admire him as someone who is close to a god. He's an honest guy so the earliest he'd be available would be 2018 IF he doesn't extend his contract, which is a big if. He usually says that he wants to be at the club he feels is perfect for him.

It's definitely possible that he'll go to United once he leaves Dortmund, since he said a couple of times that he does like the club. Don't think that he'll ever be the coach of the national team. But that's still far far away. His position is set for the next four years if not for something very very unexpected.
 
Even as a Bayern guy; Dortmund is still the greatest story in football.

If he moves to PL, he will defo be in contention to be considered among the managerial greats.. He has to win the CL, and that's going to be tough with Bayern poaching all his best players...

You cant become a great in the BL? ;)
 
Fecking love the man. Such a great personality in a line of work filled with mostly douchebags and robots (our present manager excluded). Wonderful managing skills aside, Klopp has got a touch of the Big Lebowski about him. Just looks like a happy, homeless guy. Who wouldn't root for him?
 
It's impossible not to love Klopp. Every fan wants him to be the next manager of their club.
 
Even as a Bayern guy; Dortmund is still the greatest story in football.



You cant become a great in the BL? ;)
I think because Bayern have woken up from their slumber, since three years ago, he will always be fighting from a position of considerable weakness and the sad part is they have weakened him and will look to do so again in the summer. If he were to join any of the big guns in the PL he'd have sufficient funds to compete and the ability to keep his side together, which is a prerequisite for a CL win. Settled sides win the CL and he can have that at any one of City, United or Chelsea. Just imagine this guy with a two hundred million pound warchest, he would do some serious damage.
 
I think because Bayern have woken up from their slumber, since three years ago, he will always be fighting from a position of considerable weakness and the sad part is they have weakened him and will look to do so again in the summer. If he were to join any of the big guns in the PL he'd have sufficient funds to compete and the ability to keep his side together, which is a prerequisite for a CL win. Settled sides win the CL and he can have that at any one of City, United or Chelsea. Just imagine this guy with a two hundred million pound warchest, he would do some serious damage.

Ok, sorry. My bad. A very good point.
But Dortmund is going places. Got 120 million in the summer for selling parts of the club. And with any CL season more money comes in. Add to that a great German youth where any kid wants to go to Bayern and Dortmund and sees his chances with the later. My point of view(since 2011 in terms of where they could end) is that IF they keep doing their great work on and off the pitch they will be a top top club in 5 or so years.
And if I would be Klopp I would want to be the man who builts the second top German club up again and keeps it on the top.
But you are right. The PL would be great for him also.
 
I would be gutted if this man is never our manager. He's just fantastic.
 
Ok, sorry. My bad. A very good point.
But Dortmund is going places. Got 120 million in the summer for selling parts of the club. And with any CL season more money comes in. Add to that a great German youth where any kid wants to go to Bayern and Dortmund and sees his chances with the later. My point of view(since 2011 in terms of where they could end) is that IF they keep doing their great work on and off the pitch they will be a top top club in 5 or so years.
And if I would be Klopp I would want to be the man who builts the second top German club up again and keeps it on the top.
But you are right. The PL would be great for him also.
Don't mind me I just want him at OT at some point, he'd be perfect for us but he could be the German Fergie for Dortmund, the guy who builds a dynasty through brilliance and willpower.
 
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Fecking love the man. Such a great personality in a line of work filled with mostly douchebags and robots (our present manager excluded). Wonderful managing skills aside, Klopp has got a touch of the Big Lebowski about him. Just looks like a happy, homeless guy. Who wouldn't root for him?
He certainly is a character. As for his personality - haven't met the man personally.... he konws how to work the media, that is for sure.
 
I think because Bayern have woken up from their slumber, since three years ago, he will always be fighting from a position of considerable weakness and the sad part is they have weakened him and will look to do so again in the summer. If he were to join any of the big guns in the PL he'd have sufficient funds to compete and the ability to keep his side together, which is a prerequisite for a CL win. Settled sides win the CL and he can have that at any one of City, United or Chelsea. Just imagine this guy with a two hundred million pound warchest, he would do some serious damage.

We were damn near close in 2012. This team has the ability to win this competition, it may not be a prime favourite but it has the chance to do so.

You are of course right, that it might be easier for him to win with United or Chelsea, but Jürgen Klopp does not want the easy way. He wants to fulfill his vision of football and right now there is no better place for him to do that than Dortmund. In Dortmund he has earned himself the utmost trust from the supporters and officials. They embrace the emotionality of the football that Klopp lives for and let him be exactly as he wants to be. There is of course also the aspect, that winning the CL with Dortmund would be a way bigger accomplishment than with an European elite side. He would be doing it against the odds and not by chosing the path where everything would be in his favour.

On top of that he has a team that is completely and utterly his own, being chosen by him bar three exceptions (and these three were extremely influenced by him aswell). They bleed and sweat for him on the pitch and are ready to go the extra kilometer if it means to fulfill their roles. There might be currently no other top team in the world, which has such a strong emotional connection to their coach as Dortmund. It is often a tired clichée how players describe their own teams as families, but in Dortmund´s case there is a lot of evidence that suggests it is close to that.

Jürgen Klopp does not like to see his key players leave and sometimes he shows frustration with that, but he does not view these situations as road blocks or even reasons for him to quit, but rather as challenges and opportunities to keep the team from stagnating. People often think that the ultimate success can not be archived because the team loses gradually quality, when the opposite is true. This current squad is without a doubt the strongest and most flexible Klopp ever had.

With the return of Kagawa this team is basically the matured version of the one, which played the best football of his tenure (second half 2011/2012) plus a way stronger bench and more options. Instead of being bound to the 4-2-3-1 formation it has become way more versatile over the years: 4-1-4-1, 4-3-3 offensive or defensive, 4-4-2 flat or 4-4-2 diamond. You name a formation with a 4 man back line, they can play it.

This current standing is not only the result of Klopp´s strong coaching but also of one of the best transfer policies and the financial growth of Dortmund as a club. There are several player, which were wanted by Klopp for a long time and viewed by him for months or even years. Mkhitaryan, Immobile or Ginter to name a few. All of them chose to come to us and a lot of them even turned down financially better offers to either be able to be here or be part of his team again. There is basically no bigger acknowledgement for the quality of his work than by being the main factor for players to play for a club.
 
As much as I'd love him at United I also kind of hope he stays at Dortmund for life. He can definitely win the UCL with Dortmund if he stays there, and in my opinion this current team isn't that far off. I think I'd be suicidal if he ever went to City or Liverpool.

Obviously I'm just speculating, but I get the impression he wouldn't want to go to a club like Madrid who are constantly changing the squad. He'd prefer to go somewhere he knows he can build something, imo.
 
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Aubameyang looked really different today. He never really convinced me last year, but today he played great. I have never seen him so dedicated. He was working his socks off, dropping deep, tackling, asking for the ball, while still being the major threat on the counter. Did he step up his game this season or was it just this match?
 
As much as I'd love him at United I also kind of hope he stays at Dortmund for life. He can definitely win the UCL with Dortmund if he stays there, and in my opinion this current team isn't that far off. I think I'd be suicidal if he ever went to City or Liverpool.

Obviously I'm just speculating, but I get the impression he wouldn't want to go to a club like Madrid who are constantly changing the squad. He'd prefer to go somewhere he knows he can build something, imo.
Bayern will continuously sign his best players, but he strikes me as someone who would be happy enough to persist with Dortmund despite Bayern's dominance.
 
I actually want him to stay at Dortmund rather than become United manager. Do a Fergie there.
 
As much as I'd love him at United I also kind of hope he stays at Dortmund for life. He can definitely win the UCL with Dortmund if he stays there, and in my opinion this current team isn't that far off. I think I'd be suicidal if he ever went to City or Liverpool.

Obviously I'm just speculating, but I get the impression he wouldn't want to go to a club like Madrid who are constantly changing the squad. He'd prefer to go somewhere he knows he can build something, imo.
This.
 
He certainly is a character. As for his personality - haven't met the man personally.... he konws how to work the media, that is for sure.
That's the thing about Klopp, unlike other managers, none of it feels contrived. He doesn't seem to have an ulterior motive. I think he's a genuinely nice bloke who likes having fun and is refreshingly honest. And isn't afraid of showing emotion. Of course, much of my admiration is based on Dortmund playing the most attractive, exciting brand of football today. He's the anti-Moyes.
 
We were damn near close in 2012. This team has the ability to win this competition, it may not be a prime favourite but it has the chance to do so.

You are of course right, that it might be easier for him to win with United or Chelsea, but Jürgen Klopp does not want the easy way. He wants to fulfill his vision of football and right now there is no better place for him to do that than Dortmund. In Dortmund he has earned himself the utmost trust from the supporters and officials. They embrace the emotionality of the football that Klopp lives for and let him be exactly as he wants to be. There is of course also the aspect, that winning the CL with Dortmund would be a way bigger accomplishment than with an European elite side. He would be doing it against the odds and not by chosing the path where everything would be in his favour.

On top of that he has a team that is completely and utterly his own, being chosen by him bar three exceptions (and these three were extremely influenced by him aswell). They bleed and sweat for him on the pitch and are ready to go the extra kilometer if it means to fulfill their roles. There might be currently no other top team in the world, which has such a strong emotional connection to their coach as Dortmund. It is often a tired clichée how players describe their own teams as families, but in Dortmund´s case there is a lot of evidence that suggests it is close to that.

Jürgen Klopp does not like to see his key players leave and sometimes he shows frustration with that, but he does not view these situations as road blocks or even reasons for him to quit, but rather as challenges and opportunities to keep the team from stagnating. People often think that the ultimate success can not be archived because the team loses gradually quality, when the opposite is true. This current squad is without a doubt the strongest and most flexible Klopp ever had.

With the return of Kagawa this team is basically the matured version of the one, which played the best football of his tenure (second half 2011/2012) plus a way stronger bench and more options. Instead of being bound to the 4-2-3-1 formation it has become way more versatile over the years: 4-1-4-1, 4-3-3 offensive or defensive, 4-4-2 flat or 4-4-2 diamond. You name a formation with a 4 man back line, they can play it.

This current standing is not only the result of Klopp´s strong coaching but also of one of the best transfer policies and the financial growth of Dortmund as a club. There are several player, which were wanted by Klopp for a long time and viewed by him for months or even years. Mkhitaryan, Immobile or Ginter to name a few. All of them chose to come to us and a lot of them even turned down financially better offers to either be able to be here or be part of his team again. There is basically no bigger acknowledgement for the quality of his work than by being the main factor for players to play for a club.
Yeah I get it, my arguments are motivated by my wanting him here more tha anything else. He is going to be your Fergie.....
 
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