Julen Lopetegui watch

IrishGlen said:
Three year contract @ €6 million a year. Circa 17m. It’s really not bad money if you can get it for a few months work!

So, Madrid fans, do you expect him to be dismissed over the break? Moreover, if he is sacked, who might his replacement be?
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I think that he will reach the clásico but if the football is not convincing he will be sacked.
Speaking of players of the club the order of experience would be Solari> Guti> Xabi Alonso / Raúl. Although in real life I do not think anyone has Solari as the first option instead Guti.
Alonso and Raúl train children so I would rule them out.
The opinion soon will turn to "they are lazy, we are going to bring someone to make you work", "meritocracy" so I would not rule out Conte
 
carvajal said:
I think that he will reach the clásico but if the football is not convincing he will be sacked.
Speaking of players of the club the order of experience would be Solari> Guti> Xabi Alonso / Raúl. Although in real life I do not think anyone has Solari as the first option instead Guti.
Alonso and Raúl train children so I would rule them out.
The opinion soon will turn to "they are lazy, we are going to bring someone to make you work", "meritocracy" so I would not rule out Conte
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What's the feeling amongst Madrid fans come the end of the season if he pulls it together? Keep him or are there already plans to replace him?
 
Mr Pigeon said:
What's the feeling amongst Madrid fans come the end of the season if he pulls it together? Keep him or are there already plans to replace him?
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Of course, if he manages to win la liga or champions, everyone would want to keep him.
If he loses la liga I think he is out, even if they fight until the end, but that is a very distant future.
Right now he has to try to endure until the winter market
 
André Dominguez said:
Real Madrid is a club that sacked Heynckes for being 4th in the league, despite Heynckes had won the Uefa Champions league that season. In any other club in the world Heynckes would had remained his position as manager.

But not in Madrid.
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Heynckes lost the dressing room and the players didn't listen to him. At certain point the players starting to self-manage. You don't maintain a coach that players don't listen to.

As it's often being said, it's cheaper to sack the coach than the whole squad.

Peyroteo said:
United sold Ronaldo and bought Obertan, Owen and Valencia.

9 years later Real Madrid sell Ronaldo and buy Mariano and Vinicius Jr.
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Yeah, amazing foresight from Florentino to sign Vinicius Jr. 12 months in advance prior to Ronaldo's exit. Surely he knew he was leaving eh
 
Feeling the heat now. If Lopetegui loses one of Levante/Pilsen and the clasico he's out. This Madrid side doesn't have half decent odds against Barça so he really is on a survival trip at the moment. This is not just some result crisis, performance has been really poor so the clock is ticking fast.
 
Javi said:
Feeling the heat now. If he loses one of Levante/Pilsen and the clasico he's out. This Madrid side doesn't have half decent odds against Barça so he really is on a survival trip at the moment. This is not just some result crisis, performance has been really poor so the clock is ticking fast.
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Think if he loses the Clasico he'll be 100% sacked. That will be too much to handle.
 
el3mel said:
Think if he loses the Clasico he'll be 100% sacked. That will be too much to handle.
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Depends on the game really. If he get two wins before with increasingly better perfomances and Barça wins a close game I think he'll be given another three days. If they get run over by Barça he'll have a hard time anyway, I agree.
 
Moriarty said:
Wonder if they'll go back to ZZ on bended knee? Not really Real's style to do that though.
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Why'd he come back anyway? Whatever it is that made him leave most likely is still around. Most likely because there is nothing to support the notion that it was Ronaldo, whom leaving is the only thing that changed since Zidane left.
 
Ridge Racer said:
Heynckes lost the dressing room and the players didn't listen to him. At certain point the players starting to self-manage. You don't maintain a coach that players don't listen to.

As it's often being said, it's cheaper to sack the coach than the whole squad.



Yeah, amazing foresight from Florentino to sign Vinicius Jr. 12 months in advance prior to Ronaldo's exit. Surely he knew he was leaving eh
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The problem wasn’t signing Vinicius though, it was signing nobody else
 
Peyroteo said:
The problem wasn’t signing Vinicius though, it was signing nobody else
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Agreed but I also understand Florentino not wanting to spend +150 million on players that aren't top 3 in the world. One thing that came to my mind watching Barça last 3 games is that I'd feel disgusted if I were a Barça fan watching Coutinho do nothing given his price tag. I think you're better off spending 50-70 million on players with less hype that can show a similar level. Also probably most clubs wanted to skin RM knowing they just had 100m from Ronnies sale alone
 
He’s not good enough. But you gotta feel for him too.

Madrid seem to be getting rid of players and not really replacing them. They had a lot of strength and depth in their attack a few years which is all gone.

It’s alright signing young unknown players. But they need players for now. As Benzema isn’t good enough anymore. Bale is too injury prone and not consistent to be relied upon.

They have a big rebuilding to do in the next few years. Ramos, Marcelo and Modric won’t be easy to replace. Can see them having a spell like they did between 2006 and 2010 where they don’t do much in the champions league in the next few years unless they spend big.
 
Madrid need to play the long game here
The wages Barca are paying now are utterly unsustainable, with good forward planning and sensible spending Madrid can dominate for years
I've no idea whether this guy is the Spanish Moyes, but to be sacked in October
That's just laughable
 
Madrid expect to bring Hazard in winter

Lopetegui was about to leave yesterday. They had to stop Florentino Perez to not sack him
 
carvajal said:
Madrid expect to bring Hazard in winter
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As they were expecting Neymar or Mbappé last summer.

I can't imagine Chelsea letting their best player (with Kante) go as they're leading the PL unless it's for 250M or more. Hazard is great for a couple of months now, Chelsea knows that Real is desperate for a top player, the price asked would be totally unreasonable.
 
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Oly Francis said:
As they were expecting Neymar or Mbappé last summer.

I can't imagine Chelsea letting their best player (with Kante) go as they're leading the PL unless it's for 250M or more. Hazard is great for a couple of months now, Chelsea knows that Real is desperate for a top player, the price asked would be totally unreasonable.
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I don't expect Chelsea to sell Hazard in January either. But in June he will only have one year remaining in his contract and it will be a completely different story.
 
Can we remove "SACKED by Spain" in the title ? I keep feeling Madrid have gotten rid of him. It's ancient news now.
 
carvajal said:
I think that he will reach the clásico but if the football is not convincing he will be sacked.
Speaking of players of the club the order of experience would be Solari> Guti> Xabi Alonso / Raúl. Although in real life I do not think anyone has Solari as the first option instead Guti.
Alonso and Raúl train children so I would rule them out.
The opinion soon will turn to "they are lazy, we are going to bring someone to make you work", "meritocracy" so I would not rule out Conte
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Conte is very good in doing what you say, but:
1. He still be fighting against Chelsea for the money and he does not want to leave without a victory (Conte's style...)
2. He can be very good but only if management and players support his vision (and I am not sure that players in RM want that)
3. I think he never took a job after the beginning of the season, so I am not sure he can be able to cope with the situation.
 
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Ridge Racer said:
Heynckes lost the dressing room and the players didn't listen to him. At certain point the players starting to self-manage. You don't maintain a coach that players don't listen to.

As it's often being said, it's cheaper to sack the coach than the whole squad.
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Can't blame the players on Heynckes. The guy was a twisted person, despite being adored by Bayern fans. It was not easy to work with him, as dozens of players will testify ehehehe
 
Kentonio said:
Absolutely laughable. Next summer maybe if he choses to go, but selling our best player mid-season? Not a prayer. We're Chelsea not Southampton.
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It could happen only if Abramovich decides to sell and wants to grab as much as he can before leaving. Pretty unlikely imo.

Real Madrid was far too optimistic concerning Vinicius and Asensio. They're far below what was expected so far.
 
carvajal said:
I think that he will reach the clásico but if the football is not convincing he will be sacked.
Speaking of players of the club the order of experience would be Solari> Guti> Xabi Alonso / Raúl. Although in real life I do not think anyone has Solari as the first option instead Guti.
Alonso and Raúl train children so I would rule them out.
The opinion soon will turn to "they are lazy, we are going to bring someone to make you work", "meritocracy" so I would not rule out Conte
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Oh right, tough place to go when your job is on the way. How are you’s playing in general this season? I only seen the derby and I thought you’s should’ve beat them. Atlético are a very tight team and if I remember correctly, Real had 2-3 good chances to win it.

This is actually fascinating, thanks for the response. I’ve just done a quick Google search and Solari is the manager of Castilla, he doesn’t seem to have set the world alight but admittedly I haven’t seen them play so I don’t know what his style, etc is. Guti is hard to gauge too as he’s an assistant.

This is the one though - Raúl. My word. The iconic no.7 managing the U18s, how is he getting on? What way does he play? He was probably my favourite player back in the day. I would’ve even took him here for a season back in 2011. I’m going to sound so contradictory here because I’m really not the biggest advocate of giving ex players top jobs without much managerial experience ( Giggs case in point) however the romanticism of giving Raúl the Madrid job is nearly overbearing.

If Zidane winning the CL with Real was the dream, imagine Raul doing it. Maybe it’s too soon for him but I would imagine it won’t be long. Maybe 19/20 even.

The Liga, Copa and CL are still wide open so whether it’s Lopetegui or an ex player, there’s still a more than chance of silverware!
 
Oly Francis said:
Real Madrid was far too optimistic concerning Vinicius and Asensio. They're far below what was expected so far.
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Too soon to make that claim for Vinicius given he hasn't played more than 30 minutes for the first team yet. Asensio has been very disappointing, we were expecting a jump in quality but didn't happened. When he isn't scoring wordlies he's invisible
 
Ridge Racer said:
Too soon to make that claim for Vinicius given he hasn't played more than 30 minutes for the first team yet. Asensio has been very disappointing, we were expecting a jump in quality but didn't happened. When he isn't scoring wordlies he's invisible
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I'm not saying Vinicius is a bad player, it's of course too early to tell (even if I have to admit that I was disapointed when he played with the A-team) but I think that Perez was convinced he would play far more than that and it's obvious that Lopetegui doesn't think he's ready (which makes sense for a young player transfered from Brazil).

I don't know what to think about Asensio. Great left foot but i'm questionning his state of mind after ghostly games, ridiculous actions like his no look shot missed in a C1 game etc. I'm just hoping for him that Zidane or Javi Martinez praising his talent didn't get to his head. The "best youngster contest" that was started wasn't a good thing, especially when you have Mbappé in the equation, who's a total anomaly from a statistic standpoint.
 
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They should go for Klopp. :nervous: But most likely will end with Conte after the Classico.
 
Regardless of how this match goes I think he’ll be sacked tonight. Well deserved sacking as well.
 
Gave up a World Cup for this chance and has blown it in spectacular fashion.
 
Real Madrid have now gone 465 minutes without scoring - their longest goal drought in their 116-year history.

 
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