FrankDrebin
Don't call me Shirley
I think he's just mentally worn out.
He arguably is already doing that (considering that he has back-to-back "player of the season" awards in the Bundesliga and La Liga now).Exactly, its almost as if its either he is best player or worst player, I dont get where this comes from.
We need to stop putting players on this pedestal before they get there, granted he has had a very good season at Real Madrid, many players do.
What distinguishes a top player to a WC player is their ability to do it for club / country over number of years.
He doesn't have the passing ability of a Gerrard or Lampard either
Since the ankle injury against Girona(mid February) he started 12 games(out of 21), missed 8 outright(2 for red card). He hasn't played more than once a week since the end of AprilHe played well in the league. He played 5 league games in the last 2 months of the season (and rested for 3). In those 5 games he had 3 goals and 3 assists, including the winning goal against Barcelona. In the Champions League he wasn't as good, but I don't think "shit" is very accurate. Whoscored usually had him as one of the higher-ranked RM players in the games against City, Bayern, and Dortmund.
You are not going to win the Champions League when you have a nailed-on starter who is playing like shit for two months.
MilanPirlo was an attacking midfielder before he joined Juventus.
Okay, he’s a nothing player for England. Feel better?He’s not wrong though. Calling Bellingham, La Liga POTS and Balon d’Or candidate, a ‘nothing player’ is a very silly thing to say, even if you feel he’s a bit overrated.
And yet he was just that in the CL. He is not a shit player but he defo played like shit in those last few gamesHe played well in the league. He played 5 league games in the last 2 months of the season (and rested for 3). In those 5 games he had 3 goals and 3 assists, including the winning goal against Barcelona. In the Champions League he wasn't as good, but I don't think "shit" is very accurate. Whoscored usually had him as one of the higher-ranked RM players in the games against City, Bayern, and Dortmund.
You are not going to win the Champions League when you have a nailed-on starter who is playing like shit for two months.
Didn’t a Real Madrid fan explain that he requires surgery and is playing through painkillers?Okay, he’s a nothing player for England. Feel better?
Barely any players in the world play pain-free.Didn’t a Real Madrid fan explain that he requires surgery and is playing through painkillers?
You seem to have a particularly negative view of the player.
Edit: also, are Kane, Foden, Saka etc also nothing players for England? Isn’t it quite clear that England, as a team, don’t provide their wealth of talent with a great platform upon which to shine?
Okay. But I’m guessing you understand some problems can we worse than others? And that the player’s form looks a lot lower than earlier in the season before said injury? When he was a consistent match winner for a league and champions league winning side, scoring late goals to win big games etc?Barely any players in the world play pain-free.
I'll take "unsupported claims" for 500, Alex.Barely any players in the world play pain-free.
Since the ankle injury against Girona(mid February) he started 12 games(out of 21), missed 8 outright(2 for red card). He hasn't played more than once a week since the end of April
He's been carrying injuries and since the ankle issue his mobility has visibly suffered
He also apparently has been playing on a separated shoulder since earlier in the season
Needs a break
Scored half our goals this campaign...Okay, he’s a nothing player for England. Feel better?
That third group match was the perfect opportunity to give him a proper rest. The lack of rotation is going to hurt both fitness of those playing and rhythm of those not playing.
Yes, hopefully they drop him or manage his minutes better in the Euro Cup because he was crucial for us last season when he was fit.
Didn’t a Real Madrid fan explain that he requires surgery and is playing through painkillers?
You seem to have a particularly negative view of the player.
Edit: also, are Kane, Foden, Saka etc also nothing players for England? Isn’t it quite clear that England, as a team, don’t provide their wealth of talent with a great platform upon which to shine?
@giorno also explained it, and I believe they are a Madrid fan.I explained that, but I'm not a Real fan, I just like watching them because they play the most hilarious brand of "I don't know how they win, why they win, but they play like shit sometimes and still win."
Been on injections since the first bayern game, needed surgury since his shoulder dislocation - both are confirmed.
Rumours that he needs knee surgury -> Not confirmed.
Pirlo got converted into a deep-lying role at Brescia during 2000/01, I believe... so you're off by like 11 seasons.Pirlo was an attacking midfielder before he joined Juventus.
They're more importantly a Southgate groupie (I'm teasing)@giorno also explained it, and I believe they are a Madrid fan.
Wont happen. Southgate will play him until he falls apart in this tournament.
I wear that badge with prideThey're more importantly a Southgate groupie (I'm teasing)