He will be a starter in every midfielder for every club. I dont like the English overhyping their average players to world class levels but Bellingham really is excellent.
Jude Bellingham | Real Madrid player
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He will be a starter in every midfielder for every club. I dont like the English overhyping their average players to world class levels but Bellingham really is excellent.
Top level player in arrogance shocker
Good player but overhyped. He's below Vini and Mbappe.
Also he's getting boring to listen to even though he's well spoken and mature. He's so PR trained you know exactly what he's going to say.
We're going to have to listen him yap on the same stuff regularly because he speaks English fluently and is British.
Also he's getting boring to listen to even though he's well spoken and mature. He's so PR trained you know exactly what he's going to say.
We're going to have to listen him yap on the same stuff regularly because he speaks English fluently and is British.
He was pretty invisible yesterday but that shouldn't take away from the fact that he's an excellent player.
Maybe not quite the dribbler or ball carrier yet, but I think he's got a lot of yaya toure in him with the way he sheds off defenders with his size and advances the ball from midfield. but he's got a better knack for finishing in the box
Maybe not quite the dribbler or ball carrier yet, but I think he's got a lot of yaya toure in him with the way he sheds off defenders with his size and advances the ball from midfield. but he's got a better knack for finishing in the box
Who is suggesting otherwise?
I can't believe how much this lad winds some of you up, it's weird
His second half of the season was not as good as first. I feel as season progressed his form go worse. Still an unbelievable first season but he was not good in the final. He looked tired.
Thanks.
People usually forget that he is still 20y old playing for the biggest club in the world. Rhere is no slacking at Real. Imho he had great first season, just got tired in last months.
He just need some rest.
Edit, deleted another quoted post.
Football fans can be quite silly at times.
He’s a starter for the best team in the world. Do you know how good you have to be to go to Real Madrid and seamlessly slot in their team. There is a long list of great players who have gone there and not touched the level Bellingham has.
Sure he’s not had the best performances in the knockout rounds but his base is still good enough for his side to be strong enough to win these matches with him.
Every year we get posts telling us why a great player isn’t as good as people say they are. It’s almost as if football isn’t a competitive game and that it’s easy to just dominate other teams with great players too. You get this with KDB, Haaland, Kane too and you start to think who is actually good then to some of you.
He’s a starter for the best team in the world. Do you know how good you have to be to go to Real Madrid and seamlessly slot in their team. There is a long list of great players who have gone there and not touched the level Bellingham has.
Sure he’s not had the best performances in the knockout rounds but his base is still good enough for his side to be strong enough to win these matches with him.
Every year we get posts telling us why a great player isn’t as good as people say they are. It’s almost as if football isn’t a competitive game and that it’s easy to just dominate other teams with great players too. You get this with KDB, Haaland, Kane too and you start to think who is actually good then to some of you.
Why do a lot of people here hate Bellingham and/or think he's just another bang average English player hyped up by media? He's clearly not and one of the rare few who've proved it in multiple leagues and at the international stage. He's yet to turn 21. It's almost as if people want him to fail for rejecting us several years back.
Fair enough. What I remember from the recent friendlies was that Bellingham was taking lots of low percentage shots and killing attacks partly due to England generally looking a bit short of ideas. May have been down to kane being missing as well though
Post subsequently ignored as the narrative cannot have exhaustion be an overwhelming factor.
If Spurs had beat Pool in the CL final, Jude will be on the same level as Dele Alli.
Generational talent my left nut.
Don't see how he gets the number 10 position over Foden or even Cold Palmer in the Euros.
Generational talent my left nut.
Don't see how he gets the number 10 position over Foden or even Cold Palmer in the Euros.
Aside from scoring a shit load of goals as a 20-year-old midfielder. I know it’s easy to shit on Bellingham at times but this statement is ridiculous.
Why choose violence?
He is tired and has a shoulder injury that needs surgery. He needs to manage more his efforts as he does a lot of defensive work and Ancelotti needs to rotate more with the increasingly longer seasons and more games.
I mean, it's pretty clear that all people bashing him only saw the recent CL games where, obviously, he wasn't great(like most of the team).
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Can’t wait for the euros just to see if he really as good as zidane like everyone says he is
He is playing for real and cost over 100m, definitely a point of difference to Bellingham
To me the type of player he is just isn't exciting. Can't beat a man or control a game from mid. Another Lampard will score and assist lots but I like other strengths more.
People in here, saying he's over rated probably think McTominay is a good player, AWB is a good right back and jizz themselves everytime Mainoo controls and passes a ball without fecking it up.
Quite clearly he's an incredibly talented footballer and only 20, very few midfielders have ever had a season like he's just had, Modric was still playing in Croatia at 20, I think Bruno was slumming it in Italy at 20. A lot can happen over the course of a career, but it some of the stuff in here seems insane. Almost feels like it's preparing for him to be the blame figure when the Euros goes tits up for England.
Is it controversial to say that as an actual midfielder I rate Mainoo far higher than Bellingham?
Apparently, he would walk into any team in England’s history already.
Watch the last 40 seconds. Henry winter too, shaking my head.No its just a bit stupid
Care to explain why?
He's wise beyond his years.
Just seems like recency bias in the extreme
I find the Dele Alli slander bizarre. Yeah he lost his way but he was fecking exceptional until 2018. Not sure why y'all want to pretend otherwise
This is classic English behaviour. We hype people up then love to knock them down, we've been doing it for years and not just in football.
Its almost like we get a sick kick out of it, that when a sports personality does have that bad game, season or form, the fans can all claim they were right and pat themselves on the back. We've done it for decades, going back to people like Frank Bruno, we loved him up then shat on him the minute Tyson beat him.
Being English you'd think we'd be happy to have a world class player in midfield. The minute we do like Bellingham we knock the shite out of him. The minute we don't have a world class midfielder we moan our arses off that we never seem to produce them.
Can't win either way.
Mediocre performance on the big stage last night. However without excelling his contribution was, even so, pretty good. He has an awareness about him. An aura! which for a 20 yr old is insane really.
On the flip side I agree with a previous poster about him being an attention seeker. Bordering on cringeworthy in some situations!
Interesting to see how Southgate will deploy him as he seems to have a special role playing for Madrid. I'd like to see him given the same role sitting behind Kane and playing with Foden on the left as he does with Vinicius. Oh and give him the no 5 shirt!
On the flip side I agree with a previous poster about him being an attention seeker. Bordering on cringeworthy in some situations!
Interesting to see how Southgate will deploy him as he seems to have a special role playing for Madrid. I'd like to see him given the same role sitting behind Kane and playing with Foden on the left as he does with Vinicius. Oh and give him the no 5 shirt!
I was wondering the same thing but never saw Dele Alli on a regular basis back then. And back then meaning back when he had brilliant stats which is obviously the timeframe Jude is compared to.
He simply lacks the qualities of a great midfielder. He looks lile another overhyped English player like those from the "golden generation"
As for Mainoo, it is early days but technically he is easily better.
How is he world class? This is the overhying I'm talking about.
Apparently, he would walk into any team in England’s history already.
Imagine that, a 20 year old didnt have the best of games in CL final and suddenly he's crap.
Never change cafe, never change.
Also about controlling a game, well he isnt that type of a midfielder anyway.
Never change cafe, never change.
Also about controlling a game, well he isnt that type of a midfielder anyway.
Vinicius is genuinely generational, a multiple ballon d’or winner in waiting. Bellingham is merely a very good midfielder, no different to gerrard or lampard in terms of the maximum potential he will hit. If he was born 20 years ago he’d never have ended up at Madrid - he’d be at one of the big English clubs.
The only difference is that these days English players are increasingly open to going abroad at the start of their careers. If gerrard or lampard had ended up at Madrid in the last 15 years, they’d both have multiple CLs.
There are gun players at Madrid who have dragged them to the multiple CLs - Vinicius, modric, kroos, benzema, Ronaldo, courtois, ramos etc. Then there are guys who’ve come along for the ride and would in another world have plugged on somewhere else having a decent or good career rather than a stellar one. Bellingham currently sits in that category, alongside the likes of valverde, camavinga, tchouameni etc. Remains to be seen if one or more of them genuine becomes a modric/kroos level gun player.
The only difference is that these days English players are increasingly open to going abroad at the start of their careers. If gerrard or lampard had ended up at Madrid in the last 15 years, they’d both have multiple CLs.
There are gun players at Madrid who have dragged them to the multiple CLs - Vinicius, modric, kroos, benzema, Ronaldo, courtois, ramos etc. Then there are guys who’ve come along for the ride and would in another world have plugged on somewhere else having a decent or good career rather than a stellar one. Bellingham currently sits in that category, alongside the likes of valverde, camavinga, tchouameni etc. Remains to be seen if one or more of them genuine becomes a modric/kroos level gun player.
Madrid won zilch in that period where those two were at their peak.
Yes agree. Very strange reading replies in this topic.
Thread seems to be descending into lunacy.
That goalscoring purple patch was over a while ago. Football is more than stats if you actually watch games
He only went two games all season in La Liga without scoring or assisting and in the CL the only games he didn't score or assist in were the QF and SF BUT, I think his performances from the QF were largely poor, especially the final where he was making many mistakes and couldn't get into the game. He's only 20 so will mature but he's clearly got flaws in his game that he can work on. I can imagine next season his goals/assists dropping but him looking better as a player for example.
this summer transfer window is going to be so easy when there must be so many 20 year olds out there at bellingham’s level. bit of an open goal for ineos really.
I expect his numbers to go up with Mbappé on the team, actually
Played like crap in the late stages of the CL and won it? Sounds like a Real Madrid legend already.