I don't want Mata to join another PL club. He is a quality player..
Juan Mata
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just like Poulsen wasn't signed to replace Mascherano.
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Ouch, too soon. We signed Poulsen to replace Mascherano. Still hurts.
Or Suarez to replace Torres. Even he was under the impression he was going there to play next to him
The thing is, even though Piatti and Mata play many of the same positions, Piatti doesnt bring the main thing Mata brings to the table. Mata is a creative passer, thats arguably what Piatti lacks to be a top young talent and to make the "new Messi" tag more apt.
He's very fast, has a similar style to Messi and he can score a goal with either foot but his passing game is very basic whereas Mata is a real creative force.
Plus they've already said he's replacing someone, just not Mata. He's Joaquin's replacement which suggests he'll be playing on the wing next season, not as a lone striker like he was at Almeria last season
Thats that then
Exactly, that's that.
But then there's this:
Valencia winger Juan Mata is wanted by clubs outside Spain, his father and agent has confirmed.
Mata is understood to be attracting strong interest from Arsenal, while Liverpool are also believed to be keen on the Spain international.
The talented winger, who helped his country to Under-21 glory in the European Championships this summer having previously been part of the senior squad which clinched World Cup glory in South Africa, is under contract until 2015.
But he has been tipped for a move away from the Mestalla this summer with Real Madrid and Barcelona both believed to be monitoring his situation.
Mata has admitted he is not looking to leave Los Che, who will be playing UEFA Champions League football next season, but it has now been revealed that tentative approaches have been made.
Mata's father, Juan senior, admitted that Valencia will now decide whether to part with the gifted youngster, who is currently on a break after his international commitments.
He is quoted as saying in the Daily Mirror: "There have been calls from foreign clubs - but now the final decisions rests with Valencia and he is on his holidays."
Source: Sporting Life
Interesting selection of parts to put in bold. Why not:
"Mata has admitted he is not looking to leave Los Che" or
"the final decisions rests with Valencia" (who have said he is staying)
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"Mata has admitted he is not looking to leave Los Che" or
"the final decisions rests with Valencia" (who have said he is staying)
?
How credible are Sporting Life? Quick search tells me they are a part of the 365 media group - which isn't all that great to be fair.
Definitely don't want to see him at Liverpool or Arsenal.
Quality player everytime I've seen him.
Liverpool should hurry the feck up and pay 19 million for the world beater that is Stewie Downing.
Quality player everytime I've seen him.
Liverpool should hurry the feck up and pay 19 million for the world beater that is Stewie Downing.
We could be looking at getting both Downing and Mata. imo.
yeah okFootball365.co.za - Spain
Valencia president Manuel Llorente insists Juan Mata is "not for sale".
Mata was part of the Spain squad which sealed a first World Cup triumph exactly a year ago and starred for their Under-21 side in their recent European Championship victory.
Several Premier League sides are thought to be interested in the 23-year-old, who would cost around 20million euros, but Valencia are adamant he will not be leaving the Mestalla.
"We have no intention of selling and we have not received any formal offers for the player," Llorente told Valencia-based sports daily Superdeporte.
"The news that has appeared in the papers is nothing more than speculation - Juan Mata is not for sale."
Lllorente says Valencia will be looking to strengthen their squad this summer, not weaken it.
"Our plan this summer is to make our squad better and our priority at the moment is to bring in a central defender," he said.
Valencia signed Almeria forward Pablo Piatti last week, but the Argentinian is seen as a replacement for Joaquin, who has joined Malaga.
Valencia president Manuel Llorente insists Juan Mata is "not for sale".
Mata was part of the Spain squad which sealed a first World Cup triumph exactly a year ago and starred for their Under-21 side in their recent European Championship victory.
Several Premier League sides are thought to be interested in the 23-year-old, who would cost around 20million euros, but Valencia are adamant he will not be leaving the Mestalla.
"We have no intention of selling and we have not received any formal offers for the player," Llorente told Valencia-based sports daily Superdeporte.
"The news that has appeared in the papers is nothing more than speculation - Juan Mata is not for sale."
Lllorente says Valencia will be looking to strengthen their squad this summer, not weaken it.
"Our plan this summer is to make our squad better and our priority at the moment is to bring in a central defender," he said.
Valencia signed Almeria forward Pablo Piatti last week, but the Argentinian is seen as a replacement for Joaquin, who has joined Malaga.
Ace, another winger. Thats the tits.
He is going to cost around the same region as Nasri, so I d rather have a player who is versatile and can play in central midfield.
I wish we'd went for the more skillful, tons of time on the ball spanish type of wide player instead of knock it forward and run head down and cross english type but you can't always get what you want.
We, in fact, need a central mid-fielder who could play wide too.
We're a counter-attacking side though, and play round directness from the wings?
I would prefer him over Sneijder, he can play in the mid too, this guy is a genius.
Who is this "English type" you refer to? Because you didn't even come close to describing Ashley Young just there. Have you ever seen him play?
I meant I would prefer Nasri to Mata.
Don't mind me, I just really wanted something different for our attack and I'm just muppeting around.
I've seen Young play and I'm sure he'll be useful. He just seems to me a bit of a Lennon/Walcot/SWP type that imo can't give us anything different against top oppositions that we haven't already got/tried.
i hear we are looking at this guy, is he a winger, great exactly what we need 
feck it, fergie sign him up!
feck it, fergie sign him up!
Can't really be described as a winger (or at least what a winger is in my mind) but he mostly plays out wide yes. I believe he has played behind the striker effectively as well. I really like him, and would be in full muppet mode if anything were to come of it despite him not being what we need. Can't see it happening.
Not enough power. Not enough girth.
reports today suggest he is close to joining arsenal.
Same as every other day for the past month or so
Valencia are almost set on keeping him, with the only way he leaves being money offered thats too good to turn down
Arsenal arent the club for that. If it was City it'd be more likely
Valencia are almost set on keeping him, with the only way he leaves being money offered thats too good to turn down
Arsenal arent the club for that. If it was City it'd be more likely
Good. He'd suit them down to the ground.
What is this rubbish rumour going around that his Release clause is 15-20M Euro's? That's complete rubbish I am sure of it.. He signed a new contract just a season or 2 ago.. There is no chance he has a release clause that is so low..
Mata signed his new contract on 24th of Jan this year, through till 30th June 2014
No chance of a release clause thats reasonable
I also expect he'll be Valencia captain next season, so dont expect cheap deals
No chance of a release clause thats reasonable
I also expect he'll be Valencia captain next season, so dont expect cheap deals
Had this response from a valencia fansite
I hope this isnt true. Sounds like a terrible clause to me and also makes me wonder why we havent been chasing him. £21 million has been a great price for Mata since Jan, if that clause is correct.
There's also the issue that Mata had to wait a long time, maybe a year or so, on a promise from Valencia that they would reward him with a new contract. With their money issues it was hard to find a right time to do that. But eventually it was done. At this point the financial situation is better and Valencia have money to spend still, but I imagine they'll find it tough to offer him significantly more in wages if they need to do so to keep him.
I hope this isnt true. Sounds like a terrible clause to me and also makes me wonder why we havent been chasing him. £21 million has been a great price for Mata since Jan, if that clause is correct.
There's also the issue that Mata had to wait a long time, maybe a year or so, on a promise from Valencia that they would reward him with a new contract. With their money issues it was hard to find a right time to do that. But eventually it was done. At this point the financial situation is better and Valencia have money to spend still, but I imagine they'll find it tough to offer him significantly more in wages if they need to do so to keep him.
That Balague fellow claims he can be had for 18m euros.
20 million for Stewart Downing....18m for Mata.
The Daily Mirror says Arsenal could sign him for as low as £15m.
Arsenal seem like a bunch of tightwads.
If its any lower than the £21 million up front, I'm pretty sure that Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool wouldnt be the best clubs after him.
Any club would take him at £15 million
Any club would take him at £15 million
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A £52 million buyout clause sounds a lot more likely given that basically every player in la liga has an over the top amount like that written into their contract
Apparently release clauses only apply domestically, but that could be wrong.
Word has it negotiations have started between the two clubs.
Word has it negotiations have started between the two clubs.
Word has it the fee will be as low as 13.5m