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I would just like to state for the record that I am willing to take to the pitch at Old Trafford, utterly embarrass myself and then be booed off by 70,000 people in exchange for being paid Joshua Zirkzee's wages.I feel really sorry for this dude, imagine yourself in such a situation.
Some things are more important than just football and you learn more about so called fans when things aren't going right than when they are.
You are right though, the standards of the football club have dropped and I include some of the fans in that also.
Ok big man.I would just like to state for the record that I am willing to take to the pitch at Old Trafford, utterly embarrass myself and then be booed off by 70,000 people in exchange for being paid Joshua Zirkzee's wages.
If you're reading Jim, PM me. Cheers.
Rich people get depression and mental health issues as well. I get your point, but a full bank account doesn't always prevent consequencesI would just like to state for the record that I am willing to take to the pitch at Old Trafford, utterly embarrass myself and then be booed off by 70,000 people in exchange for being paid Joshua Zirkzee's wages.
If you're reading Jim, PM me. Cheers.
Such a predictable, naive commentI would just like to state for the record that I am willing to take to the pitch at Old Trafford, utterly embarrass myself and then be booed off by 70,000 people in exchange for being paid Joshua Zirkzee's wages.
If you're reading Jim, PM me. Cheers.
I feel for him but it’s easy to regret something once the opportunity has passed. Some players think they’ve can play like that all game and it’s fine, if he’d have played the full 90 he’d have gone and clapped the fans and slinked off down the tunnel with the rest after the game, none the wiser that his performance and performances have been totally unacceptable for a player at Manchester United.I saw him really close going down the tunnel and he was destroyed. Shameful from the fans.
This has to be a wind-up surely? Compare the reaction from our matchgoing fans after we were thumped 4-0 by Crystal Palace last season to the Spurs fans, for example, who booed and abused Postecoglou after a 1-0 loss to Bournemouth last month.I hate our fans I honestly think we have the worst fans. There's no support just hate and blame constantly
Think Amorim could have hooked one of Ericksen or Casemiro at the same time as they were also pure dogshit in this and it would have taken the sting outta it for Zirkzee
Happened to Fellaini, and to an extent to Maguire.Haven't seen that kind of a response from the Old Trafford crowd in all my time supporting the club
True. He just plays with zero intensity or aggression and his BTEC Berba impression doesn't cut it when the team as a collective are so inferior in terms of physicality or desire. They are the minimum standards you need to meet.The moment was harsh.
BUT...having somehow lucked out on getting a move to United he didn't bother with pre season, was unfit at start of season and has since strolled about the place, dodged his duals etc.
It's just not on.
Was it a particularly bad idea?Well done to all those fans who decided booing him was a good idea. Idiots.
I think he wasn't playing in the right position, it didn't suit him, so it looked more like a managers mistake than his. I get your point but I'm seeing other players given 2 seasons to adapt and other just a couple of months. So I believe we have to be either like Madrid and give shit to everyone right away or trust they will do good after at least a season. Personally, I prefer to trust them.I feel for him but it’s easy to regret something once the opportunity has passed. Some players think they’ve can play like that all game and it’s fine, if he’d have played the full 90 he’d have gone and clapped the fans and slinked off down the tunnel with the rest after the game, none the wiser that his performance and performances have been totally unacceptable for a player at Manchester United.
People on here banging on like support is unconditional. Some of you will be clapping the lads down to the Championship this summer. Where’s the accountability? Fergie isn’t around anymore, the players can’t hide behind him and his request for patience and support. You turn up and you put a shift in bare minimum, secondly you control the ball when it’s passed to you. Do those things and people will generally not get on your case that much.
Exactly. It's another Donny situation... Zirkzee looked good in one system, in a team playing well and with confidence. I don't think he has the quality based on his performances, but he has been set up to fail really.Yup. He's the wrong profile of player and the club should have realised this a mile away. He had one good season for bologna playing in a unique set up. Most of his goals (13 I believe) came in the second season.
What do people expect? He is backup for Hojlund, let that sink in. We have fallen so low that we feel Hojlund is a given starting striker in our squad.I mean writing was on the wall when Depay is far better and he didnt last long here, you really think zirkzee will? Few games was enough for me to figure that one out
Also, hate to say because youtube videos is not the place to be to see players when they were linked but those videos were nothing special of zirkzee, onana too.
If the last few years of transfers are anything to go by, it's entirely possible our scouts didn't recommend him or recommended against signing him but were ignored completely.Having only ever seen him play for United, I can't believe the scouts would have singled him out as the one to go for in the summer.
But it would be great to hear from someone who had watched and followed his career more closely than the United fans, just to see if what we are seeing is the true Zirkzee or is he just simply not showing anything he had at his previous clubs.
Well done to all those fans who decided booing him was a good idea. Idiots.
To think I'd have fellaini over zirkzee any day. At least fellaini was proven a better goal scorer as he done it consistently for Everton in the plIt was bad of the fans, we saw it with Fellaini and now Zirkzee, quite a few fans don't like seeing this type of player out there. Fellaini really gave his all well, just that he a bad run of costly incidents and for United, it's a real drop off in player quality. Jose was right to call the fans out, the club shouldn't be buying Fellaini though.
Watched the footage back, was he that bothered? Looked more pissed at being subbed than anything.
Fellaini is a far better player than Zirkzee tbh, he was at least a nuisance and gave his all, I'm not sure what Zirkzee is to be honest.It was bad of the fans, we saw it with Fellaini and now Zirkzee, quite a few fans don't like seeing this type of player out there. Fellaini really gave his all well, just that he a bad run of costly incidents and for United, it's a real drop off in player quality. Jose was right to call the fans out, the club shouldn't be buying Fellaini though.
I think it’s a sobering moment that nobody is prepared for. First half sub, boos, emotions of frustration, disappointment, embarrassment etc. One of those proper ‘what the feck just happened!?’ Moments for him.Watched the footage back, was he that bothered? Looked more pissed at being subbed than anything.
We have a bunch of players who might be good but don’t have anyone to lead them. I don’t think Zirkzee is one of them but Hojlund, Garnacho, Mainoo, they all shouldn’t play as much as they do, back in the days they’d come into a settled squad for cup games or during fixture congestion until they earned starts and could be trusted. Now they’re just thrown in and told to learn on the job. Fecking madness our recruitment has let this happen, they’ll never develop past where they currently are at this rate.I was pitch side of the SAF stand and during the warm up i couldn’t believe how good he looked. Every shot, bang like a rocket into the net. His touch looked sharp and he was skilful too.
Then to see him get out jumped by Trippier who was half his size more than once during the game was mindboggling.
Hes not good enough clearly, but part of me thinks he’s terrified to play for Man Utd. He needed to come off when he did, Mainoo was our best player by a mile.
Some things are more important than just football and you learn more about so called fans when things aren't going right than when they are.
You are right though, the standards of the football club have dropped and I include some of the fans in that also.
I actually thought the cheering was because of Mainoo coming, as it was the obvious thing that would tighten the midfield and give legs, energy and a proper CMI think whoever was subbed for Mainoo in the first half would have been at risk of a booing.
