[Lay]

This seems to be it, and I keep saying it but who the feck thought this profile of player would be good for us and in this league? I get that we wanted a player who could link things up but surely other attributes of his game were assessed besides that?

In his game tonight, he even made a few tackles when he lost the ball which were appreciated. He did try, it’s just the pace of the game is too much for him and he looks so lost.

Yup. He's the wrong profile of player and the club should have realised this a mile away. He had one good season for bologna playing in a unique set up. Most of his goals (13 I believe) came in the second season.

 

[Aretak]

I feel really sorry for this dude, imagine yourself in such a situation.

I would just like to state for the record that I am willing to take to the pitch at Old Trafford, utterly embarrass myself and then be booed off by 70,000 people in exchange for being paid Joshua Zirkzee's wages.

If you're reading Jim, PM me. Cheers.

 

[The holy trinity 68]

Some things are more important than just football and you learn more about so called fans when things aren't going right than when they are.
You are right though, the standards of the football club have dropped and I include some of the fans in that also.

Not when you pay hard earned money to watch a football match and expect a player to perform well and instead they are absolutely dreadful. They booed his performance, not him as a person. This is a football club and a football match, not a humanitarian peace treaty.

 

[SuperiorXI]

I would just like to state for the record that I am willing to take to the pitch at Old Trafford, utterly embarrass myself and then be booed off by 70,000 people in exchange for being paid Joshua Zirkzee's wages.

If you're reading Jim, PM me. Cheers.

Ok big man.

 

[RuudTom83]

Having only ever seen him play for United, I can't believe the scouts would have singled him out as the one to go for in the summer.

But it would be great to hear from someone who had watched and followed his career more closely than the United fans, just to see if what we are seeing is the true Zirkzee or is he just simply not showing anything he had at his previous clubs.

 

[hellhunter]

I would just like to state for the record that I am willing to take to the pitch at Old Trafford, utterly embarrass myself and then be booed off by 70,000 people in exchange for being paid Joshua Zirkzee's wages.

If you're reading Jim, PM me. Cheers.

Rich people get depression and mental health issues as well. I get your point, but a full bank account doesn't always prevent consequences

 

[JJ12]

I would just like to state for the record that I am willing to take to the pitch at Old Trafford, utterly embarrass myself and then be booed off by 70,000 people in exchange for being paid Joshua Zirkzee's wages.

If you're reading Jim, PM me. Cheers.

Such a predictable, naive comment

 

[crossy1686]

I saw him really close going down the tunnel and he was destroyed. Shameful from the fans.

I feel for him but it’s easy to regret something once the opportunity has passed. Some players think they’ve can play like that all game and it’s fine, if he’d have played the full 90 he’d have gone and clapped the fans and slinked off down the tunnel with the rest after the game, none the wiser that his performance and performances have been totally unacceptable for a player at Manchester United.

People on here banging on like support is unconditional. Some of you will be clapping the lads down to the Championship this summer. Where’s the accountability? Fergie isn’t around anymore, the players can’t hide behind him and his request for patience and support. You turn up and you put a shift in bare minimum, secondly you control the ball when it’s passed to you. Do those things and people will generally not get on your case that much.

 

[Carl]

The frustration at the team boiled over and he took the brunt. Pretty disgraceful to boo him. Felt for him.

 

[buckooo1978]

Think Amorim could have hooked one of Ericksen or Casemiro at the same time as they were also pure dogshit in this and it would have taken the sting outta it for Zirkzee

 

[FujiVice]

It was a performance where if we'd have started the game with 10 men it might have been an improvement on what Zirkzee did out there. Harsh as hell to boo him, though. I fall on side of "its not his fault he's shite" side of the coin.

 

[Jordan_mufc]

Classless from the OT fans.

Young lad getting booed off like that. Lisandro and Casemiro deserved that treatment

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

I hate our fans I honestly think we have the worst fans. There's no support just hate and blame constantly

This has to be a wind-up surely? Compare the reaction from our matchgoing fans after we were thumped 4-0 by Crystal Palace last season to the Spurs fans, for example, who booed and abused Postecoglou after a 1-0 loss to Bournemouth last month.

 

[Marwood]

The moment was harsh.

BUT...having somehow lucked out on getting a move to United he didn't bother with pre season, was unfit at start of season and has since strolled about the place, dodged his duals etc.

It's just not on.

 

[Ekeke]

Think Amorim could have hooked one of Ericksen or Casemiro at the same time as they were also pure dogshit in this and it would have taken the sting outta it for Zirkzee

We didnt have any senior midfielders on the bench. Just Collyer and even his fan ETH didnt want to pick him.

 

[The Irish Connection]

Haven't seen that kind of a response from the Old Trafford crowd in all my time supporting the club

Happened to Fellaini, and to an extent to Maguire.
Just one of many dark clouds over the club in the last few years.

He’s not good enough though. You could see it from watching him for five minutes at the euros and the fact that Weghorst was getting picked ahead of him.

 

[Remember the geese]

The moment was harsh.

BUT...having somehow lucked out on getting a move to United he didn't bother with pre season, was unfit at start of season and has since strolled about the place, dodged his duals etc.

It's just not on.

True. He just plays with zero intensity or aggression and his BTEC Berba impression doesn't cut it when the team as a collective are so inferior in terms of physicality or desire. They are the minimum standards you need to meet.

 

[Frank Grimes]

Well done to all those fans who decided booing him was a good idea. Idiots.

 

[Remember the geese]

Well done to all those fans who decided booing him was a good idea. Idiots.

Was it a particularly bad idea?

 

[El Zoido]

He’s absolutely shite. A complete donkey. I’m fed up of coddling these overpaid wasters. Boo hoo the fans were mean to him, wahhh. He can feck off back to Italy then, and won’t be missed by anybody. Am sick and tired of the fans getting all precious every time we boo one of these overpriced mannequins.

 

[Alvaro Maestre]

I feel for him but it’s easy to regret something once the opportunity has passed. Some players think they’ve can play like that all game and it’s fine, if he’d have played the full 90 he’d have gone and clapped the fans and slinked off down the tunnel with the rest after the game, none the wiser that his performance and performances have been totally unacceptable for a player at Manchester United.

People on here banging on like support is unconditional. Some of you will be clapping the lads down to the Championship this summer. Where’s the accountability? Fergie isn’t around anymore, the players can’t hide behind him and his request for patience and support. You turn up and you put a shift in bare minimum, secondly you control the ball when it’s passed to you. Do those things and people will generally not get on your case that much.

I think he wasn't playing in the right position, it didn't suit him, so it looked more like a managers mistake than his. I get your point but I'm seeing other players given 2 seasons to adapt and other just a couple of months. So I believe we have to be either like Madrid and give shit to everyone right away or trust they will do good after at least a season. Personally, I prefer to trust them.

 

[Fooza]

I mean writing was on the wall when Depay is far better and he didnt last long here, you really think zirkzee will? Few games was enough for me to figure that one out

Also, hate to say it because youtube videos is not the place to be to see players when they were linked but those videos were nothing special of zirkzee, onana too. I was like these players aren't anything special, but we have to all ride the giddy train everytime we buy someone, can't question signings without being called a pessimist or negative. "Got to give it time they will come good...."

 

[Flying_Heckfish]

Yup. He's the wrong profile of player and the club should have realised this a mile away. He had one good season for bologna playing in a unique set up. Most of his goals (13 I believe) came in the second season.

Exactly. It's another Donny situation... Zirkzee looked good in one system, in a team playing well and with confidence. I don't think he has the quality based on his performances, but he has been set up to fail really.

He had no part to play here, whether in EtH's system or in Amorim's.... the signing doesn't make sense outside of taking a punt on the "Serie A Young Player of the Year", which is basically just a twist on Woody's blueprint.

I can't see how the "best in class" exec team came to the conclusion that this was our guy, it just doesn't make sense. But then nothing makes sense with Utd these days.

 

[Devil81]

As a match going fan I can tell you he was offered an arm of respect against Bournemouth and didn't acknowledge the fans. I'm not saying booing is acceptable but from the very first instagram post on his arrival at training it was clear he lacked effort in training drills.

Let him go in January as one of worst ever signings, it's that simple. He's been dreadful and he needs showing the door before his value and good seasons in Italy are forgotten.

 

[Denis79]

I mean writing was on the wall when Depay is far better and he didnt last long here, you really think zirkzee will? Few games was enough for me to figure that one out

Also, hate to say because youtube videos is not the place to be to see players when they were linked but those videos were nothing special of zirkzee, onana too.

What do people expect? He is backup for Hojlund, let that sink in. We have fallen so low that we feel Hojlund is a given starting striker in our squad.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Having only ever seen him play for United, I can't believe the scouts would have singled him out as the one to go for in the summer.

But it would be great to hear from someone who had watched and followed his career more closely than the United fans, just to see if what we are seeing is the true Zirkzee or is he just simply not showing anything he had at his previous clubs.

If the last few years of transfers are anything to go by, it's entirely possible our scouts didn't recommend him or recommended against signing him but were ignored completely.

 

[redshaw]

It was bad of the fans, we saw it with Fellaini and now Zirkzee, quite a few fans don't like seeing this type of player out there. Fellaini really gave his all well, just that he a bad run of costly incidents and for United, it's a real drop off in player quality. Jose was right to call the fans out, the club shouldn't be buying Fellaini though.

 

[groovyalbert]

Watched the footage back, was he that bothered? Looked more pissed at being subbed than anything.

 

[VivaObertan]

Well done to all those fans who decided booing him was a good idea. Idiots.

Had to sell my tickets back to the club today as I’ve been away for the last two weeks.

I’d have booed too. Fellaini is twice the player that Zirkzee is. Hope he’s sold gracefully in Jan

 

[Fooza]

It was bad of the fans, we saw it with Fellaini and now Zirkzee, quite a few fans don't like seeing this type of player out there. Fellaini really gave his all well, just that he a bad run of costly incidents and for United, it's a real drop off in player quality. Jose was right to call the fans out, the club shouldn't be buying Fellaini though.

To think I'd have fellaini over zirkzee any day. At least fellaini was proven a better goal scorer as he done it consistently for Everton in the pl

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

Watched the footage back, was he that bothered? Looked more pissed at being subbed than anything.

People at the stadium close by said he was on the verge of crying/looked distraught.

 

[AdNani]

It was bad of the fans, we saw it with Fellaini and now Zirkzee, quite a few fans don't like seeing this type of player out there. Fellaini really gave his all well, just that he a bad run of costly incidents and for United, it's a real drop off in player quality. Jose was right to call the fans out, the club shouldn't be buying Fellaini though.

Fellaini is a far better player than Zirkzee tbh, he was at least a nuisance and gave his all, I'm not sure what Zirkzee is to be honest.

 

[The United]

The amusing thing is that he was signed for ETH who tried to play the best transition football in the league or something.

Not that this guy would fit in most of the football a top club would play anyway because of his lack of intensity.

Booing him was pretty bad though.

 

[Lee565]

Not deserving of abuse that should have been aimed at our last manager instead and at this rate even the current one who is giving ten hag a run for his money for being the worst post fergie manager.

Zirkzee is not to blame for our club being a complete a mess, this god like worshipping of managers for far too long when things are going downhill is a far bigger issue and why standards have gone down the drain.

 

[crossy1686]

Watched the footage back, was he that bothered? Looked more pissed at being subbed than anything.

I think it’s a sobering moment that nobody is prepared for. First half sub, boos, emotions of frustration, disappointment, embarrassment etc. One of those proper ‘what the feck just happened!?’ Moments for him.

Credit to him though, he came straight back out and sat on the bench. Didn’t hide away in the dressing room or leave the stadium.

 

[santeria13]

I found this clip deeply disturbing way back when we signed him but ignored it and hoped for the best. One of the worst misses I've seen in my lifetime and so far at United, that kinda sums up his time here. Worst player I have ever seen play for us in my 20 years of following.

 

[LukeChadwick36]

I was pitch side of the SAF stand and during the warm up i couldn’t believe how good he looked. Every shot, bang like a rocket into the net. His touch looked sharp and he was skilful too.

Then to see him get out jumped by Trippier who was half his size more than once during the game was mindboggling.

Hes not good enough clearly, but part of me thinks he’s terrified to play for Man Utd. He needed to come off when he did, Mainoo was our best player by a mile.

 

[Vidooq]

There was a moment when Eriksen got a ball in a very promising area with Zirkzee next to him, when the Newcastle defense was a bit all over the place. Instead of running left from Eriksen for a pass, or overlap, he simply stood still for some reason. He got substituted few minutes after that.

 

[crossy1686]

I was pitch side of the SAF stand and during the warm up i couldn’t believe how good he looked. Every shot, bang like a rocket into the net. His touch looked sharp and he was skilful too.

Then to see him get out jumped by Trippier who was half his size more than once during the game was mindboggling.

Hes not good enough clearly, but part of me thinks he’s terrified to play for Man Utd. He needed to come off when he did, Mainoo was our best player by a mile.

We have a bunch of players who might be good but don’t have anyone to lead them. I don’t think Zirkzee is one of them but Hojlund, Garnacho, Mainoo, they all shouldn’t play as much as they do, back in the days they’d come into a settled squad for cup games or during fixture congestion until they earned starts and could be trusted. Now they’re just thrown in and told to learn on the job. Fecking madness our recruitment has let this happen, they’ll never develop past where they currently are at this rate.

 

[Uncle Mainoo]

Some things are more important than just football and you learn more about so called fans when things aren't going right than when they are.
You are right though, the standards of the football club have dropped and I include some of the fans in that also.

Stop this nonsense now man. This is Football the players wear a red shirt and that’s all that matters.

Paul Pogba was a one off and was wrong. But we don’t have a racial issue at Manchester United. This narrative that has been built off the back of Paul Pogba is weird. He’s crap and he got booed. The players don’t deserve to be booed, but the same fans moaning are the same fans that want to criticise top reds for not booing managers and letting the club know when it’s there time to go.