[Roboc7]

He isn’t a number 9 or a number 10, if a team from Serie A is willing to take him for 30m we’d be stupid not to sell.

He just doesn’t look suited to the league or Amorim’s system, will have some decent games and score few goals her and there but we can find better players in that 10 role without spending fortunes.

 

[Walrus]

Posting without comment:

https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/joshua-zirkzee-the-man-who-plays-in-reverse/

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Posting without comment:

https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/joshua-zirkzee-the-man-who-plays-in-reverse/

Thanks. Massive word salad. So could only skim it.

The penultimate paragraph made me laugh:

“And this is his great illusion: to seem idle, even indifferent, while the world around him spirals into chaos. He walks, yet the defenders run. He waits, yet they panic. He does not force his way into football’s history; he invites it, as if it were always meant to come to him.”

Would be fine with all of that, if there was any consequence to his play - a goal, chances created, making teammates better. But there is close to zero output from him. All fart, no… some might say.

 

[Bwuk]

Ultimately, we can't have someone in our front 3 on 45 appearances and 6 goals.

Zirkzee has some things he's good at, but we can't carry that upfront.

 

[FortunaUtd]

Posting without comment:

https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/joshua-zirkzee-the-man-who-plays-in-reverse/

I just had the vision of a beautiful long @LuckyScout78 post appearing on this pretentious website, with slick layout and the photos and all, but without any proofreading or text formatting. That would be gorgeous.

 

[ThanksBoss26]

Ultimately, we can't have someone in our front 3 on 45 appearances and 6 goals.

Zirkzee has some things he's good at, but we can't carry that upfront.

Agreed.

 

[iHicksy]

He's a deep lying play maker playing at number 9. It's bizarre, some times the way he controls the ball and keeps calm and his feints and touches remind me of Berba (with none of the end product) but never in the world is he an attacker. He's a guy who starts or links the play.

 

[Quagmaguire]

I like Zirkzee alot and he is enjoyable to watch.

Amorim is just too one dimensional with his tactics to be able to use false 9's like Zirkzee or inside forwards like Garnacho.

This can be seen even with Bruno Fernandes. Bruno looks horrible when played as one of the wide attacking midfielders but looks better as a CM.

This is because Amorim deems his tactics unchangeable and yet will change the players role within these tactics.

This is why Zirkzee has played as a CAM because its the closest role Amorim can use a False 9.

Zirkzee has improved his work rate and speed. The only thing I'm worried about is how he looses stamina about 60 mins in to a game.

He can't be the focal point to score goals however he can be the focal point to interlink play. I think in the first half we looked brilliant and quick because of Zirkzee's interlinking ability bur ultimately it came to nothing because we didn't have anyone clinical enough to take those chances.

I wouldn't sell Zirkzee just yet and keep him as a squad player because I'm not sure we should be selling players that don't fit Amorim's system when Amorim may not be here this time next year.

 

[Apokalips]

Ultimately, we can't have someone in our front 3 on 45 appearances and 6 goals.

Zirkzee has some things he's good at, but we can't carry that upfront.

Worst thing is, we have two of them! Between him and Hojlund we have 84 appearances, 14 goals - shocking.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

Worst thing is, we have two of them! Between him and Hojlund we have 84 appearances, 14 goals - shocking.

Only 6 of the goals are in the PL to make it more shocking.

 

[Apokalips]

Only 6 of the goals are in the PL to make it more shocking.

To be honest, I'm not sure what anyone was expecting. Their goalscoring history speaks for itself so the decision to bring them as our main strikers was always a shocker to anyone without blind hope. I guess Zirkzee was YPOTY so there is something but it seems that, like that Hojlund lookalike guy sings, we were hoping for a miracle.

 

[Raoul]

I like Zirkzee alot and he is enjoyable to watch.

Amorim is just too one dimensional with his tactics to be able to use false 9's like Zirkzee or inside forwards like Garnacho.

This can be seen even with Bruno Fernandes. Bruno looks horrible when played as one of the wide attacking midfielders but looks better as a CM.

This is because Amorim deems his tactics unchangeable and yet will change the players role within these tactics.

This is why Zirkzee has played as a CAM because its the closest role Amorim can use a False 9.

Zirkzee has improved his work rate and speed. The only thing I'm worried about is how he looses stamina about 60 mins in to a game.

He can't be the focal point to score goals however he can be the focal point to interlink play. I think in the first half we looked brilliant and quick because of Zirkzee's interlinking ability bur ultimately it came to nothing because we didn't have anyone clinical enough to take those chances.

I wouldn't sell Zirkzee just yet and keep him as a squad player because I'm not sure we should be selling players that don't fit Amorim's system when Amorim may not be here this time next year.

So you think we should keep Zirkzee as a squad player in case Amorim isn't around this time next year, at which point a hypothetical next manager may build his tactics around Zirkzee's strengths ?

 

[Raoul]

He isn’t a number 9 or a number 10, if a team from Serie A is willing to take him for 30m we’d be stupid not to sell.

He just doesn’t look suited to the league or Amorim’s system, will have some decent games and score few goals her and there but we can find better players in that 10 role without spending fortunes.

Agreed. He's been here for most of one season during which we've had a pretty good sample size to see what he brings to the table. He's neither a 9 or a 10 and appears little more than a younger, more nimble version of Weghorst - both pointless ETH projects.