Think he's a good player, and would be alright here. If Fergie decides he needs a stopgap until the Pogba, Morrison, James generation then fair enough.
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Why did Michael Owen accept the role of fourth striker?
I don't want Barton, I hasten to add.
It's not really 'going around' then, is it? It was most likely just started by some kids enjoying the school holidays.
Some people settled for Adams!!! Let's buy adams...Some would settle for Barton!!!! Let's buy Barton. He's better then Gibson. One word comes to mind and that word is Bollocks....it won't happen.
Exactly, when did being better than Gibson become the primary criteria when looking for players?
Can you imagine him coming here and playing 20 games a season, being comsistently overlooked for big games and settling for it? Because thats where Gibson is, and theres no way Barton is better than Fletcher or Carrick.
One major difference though. Owen was nowhere near his prime and wasn't coming after arguably his best season. Barton is in his prime and had his best season in the previous one. Also, given the shortage of midfielders he could easily get a crack at Euro 2012.
I reckon he would get great offers from Villa, Everton and Spurs. All good clubs. Owen didn't have that choice, IIRC it was only Hull who was after him.
Because he's played for massive clubs his entire career and wanted to continue to rather than step down to a smaller club.
He also obviously had faith in his own ability to get into the team as he signed a pay as you play deal.
What a bunch of cnuts in this thread, a thread about Joey fecking Barton going on a free turns into another Darren Gibson is shite thread. In the name of good feck leave Gibbo alone..wankers!!!
Isnt there a Newcastle supporter on this forum?
Isnt there a Newcastle supporter on this forum?
Or rather; theres no way Barton should be higher than 5th choice - which I don't think he would be IF he joined. Anderson, Fletcher (get well soon xx), Carrick and Cleverley would all be ahead of him as I see it. Giggs probably as well. It's tough to say who's the better player of Gibson and Barton. I'm not a big fan of Gibson, but I think he's very underrated by many United supporters simply because we expect every United player to perform exceptionally. Players like Barton (and Adam too) are often praised on here for doing well in smaller teams although many of their performances would not have been praised if they were playing for United. Grass is greener etc.
I'm not saying Gibson is better because I really don't know. In my book they're pretty equal. I'd much rather keep Gibson instead of signing Barton and selling Gibson though. Gibson is younger and can still improve (need I refer to Fletcher?) and he's been at the club for a long time. Although Barton didn't do anything stupid last year from what I remember I still don't trust him and I wouldn't want a 5th/6th choice player to potentially upset the great spirit within our squad.
for feck sake
When you get comments like Gibson is as good as Barton, you wonder whether people actually watch non-United games. But that's besides the point, it's not a Gibson thread.
Barton's done a lot of bad things in his life, but he's never been bad at football. He's a top 8 player - ie, could start for anyone 6-8 but only would be a sub for a 1-5 team. As I say, I'd have no problem with him in the Arsenal squad, he'd be useful to have around, as long as he keeps up the good behaviour that he's shown over the last couple of years.
Barton's done a lot of bad things in his life, but he's never been bad at football. He's a top 8 player - ie, could start for anyone 6-8 but only would be a sub for a 1-5 team. As I say, I'd have no problem with him in the Arsenal squad, he'd be useful to have around, as long as he keeps up the good behaviour that he's shown over the last couple of years.
I agree with that, don't see the issue.
But then, i dont see Gibson as the spawn of Satan.
But then, i dont see Gibson as the spawn of Satan.
Skysports.com understands Arsenal, Tottenham and Stoke have made enquiries about Newcastle United midfielder Joey Barton.
I have sky sports news on in front of me and I can't see that. Wouldn't be displeased, as I say.
Good little player, not gonna set the world alight but is a good set piece taker/passer and obviously gets stuck in. He'd be on less wages and contribute more than Hargreaves did the last couple of seasons so if we did sign him i wouldn't be upset, wouldn't be overly pleased mind.
Can't see it happening either way, but then Fergie does like to throw a surprise our way every now and then and on a free that is value.
Can't see it happening either way, but then Fergie does like to throw a surprise our way every now and then and on a free that is value.
Skysports.com understands Arsenal, Tottenham and Stoke have made enquiries about Newcastle United midfielder Joey Barton.
Trio tracking Barton | Stoke City News, Fixtures, Results, Transfers | Sky Sports
Trio tracking Barton | Stoke City News, Fixtures, Results, Transfers | Sky Sports
Cheers for the exclusive Mad.
Pleasure, fecktard.I'd take him on a free even though he is a complete twat but to be honest I think a lot of fottballers are complete twats. He'll end up at Villa. If Gibson is given a good run in the team this season I think he coud turn out to be a great player, cannot understand the real dislike for him on here.
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We're already taking a chance with an unproven dickhead...
Wouldn't have imagined Michael Owen doing that but you've summed up his United career right there.
If Fergie wants rid of gibson - and he obviously does - I don't see the problem with replacing him with a player who is far better, so long as he is willing to follow Owen's lead and accept that reputation doesn't guarantee games when you sign for Manchester United.
Plenty of footballers are idiots/dickheads/thick as pig shit and we have dealt with a few at United, but el Joey of Huyton takes it to a new level and despite his reasonable footballing attributes he is not the kind of person I for one would want to be pulling on a United shirt. He is a selfish odious little man with some mental issues who still knocks around with the absolute lowlife dickheads from Huyton Liverpool who are an excuse for pond life and nothing but scum. If people think he is even fit to be considered as a United player I suggest you look at some of the stunts he has pulled through his life and consider that these are just the ones that made the press. I have dealt with the bloke on numerous occasions and although he isn't a bad person per-say, he is always on the edge of trouble and always will be.
I am surprised that some people in here are actually fearful that SAF would bring that cock to OT.
Behave yourselves!!
Behave yourselves!!
I dont normally agree with you, and KM is correct this is not a Gibbo V Barton thread.
But I cant believe there are some who think Gibson is better than Barton. It really is nuts
I've already said how the Owen situation is different, opportunity to continue to play for another huge club.
Having enough faith in his own ability to sign a pay as you play deal.
One was a striker entering his 30s his best days behind him, the others at the peak of his career.
But all that aside just because Owen is happy with his role how does that suggest Barton would be?
Ones a model pro with a history of playing for top sides. I'm positive he wants to play more games and i'm sure he'll apply himself in trainin to try and achieve that. Barton on the otherhand is a scumbag with a history of trouble thats followed him everywhere he's been.
When things weren't going his way at Toon what did he do? Took to fecking Twitter to criticise the club.
That he maybe better than Gibson is no reason to sign him. If Gibson goes give Cleverly his shot and leave Barton to resume his glittering career at the next in a long line of mid table clubs. And let them deal with his shit.
I'd disagree. I think Barton is on the same level of defensive qualities as Fletcher and better offensively. Very underrated here. Not saying I want him, but Fletcher wasn't very good last year. Far from the player he was two years ago.
Owen was 29 when you signed him. Batron turns 29 on 2nd September. Not a huge difference.
joey barton would be cancer in the locker room while owen is a positive influence.
Its not a signing I want but saying that he is apparently very popular with his Newcastle teammates. Perhaps he really has turned a corner.
It's well known among psychologists that psychopaths can be superficially charming.
He hasn't turned a corner: he's acting like a human to protect his livelihood.
Would be an interesting development if he came here. We're missing a midfield twat that other teams are kind of afraid of.
So you've made the leap from him being a bit of a thug to a psychpath?
Fixed (the bolding part, not the spelling mistake you muppet)
What?
He's not just a "psychopath", he's a "psychopath"