Oh okay, a joke, I get it.
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I get jokes
People who have a conscience, and a regard for others don't believe stubbing a cigar in someone's eye is an appropriate response for any infraction.
And that's only the most memorable example.
He's a hell of a lot worse than "a bit of a thug".
And that's only the most memorable example.
He's a hell of a lot worse than "a bit of a thug".
Remember the time he picked a fight with a 15 year old?
His brothers doing life for a racist murder isnt he? (not that he should be judged for his brothers actions).
His brothers doing life for a racist murder isnt he? (not that he should be judged for his brothers actions).
Ousmane Dabo, too.
Agree he shouldn't be judged for his brother's actions, but it does make me wonder what they learned growing up.
I don't care how long he's gone without legal trouble; I think he's too potentially dangerous.
What are the other, less memorable, examples?
All I can remember are two fist fights. One on the training ground and another drunken scuffle on a street corner. Not exactly Hannibal Lecter, is he?
Bit of a thug sounds about right to me.
Who did he half moon on the pitch?
So he shouldn't be judged, but you're making assumptions on the basis of what exactly? Given that my understanding is that they never lived together or shared the same family environment.
Based on last season's performances alone, Barton would walk into the United midfield.
While he still gives an impression of being a ticking time bomb, some of his level-headedness last year was par excellence. Watch the Wolves game and his scuffles with Karl Henry.
While he still gives an impression of being a ticking time bomb, some of his level-headedness last year was par excellence. Watch the Wolves game and his scuffles with Karl Henry.
That wasn't being level headed. That was fear of being planted like a stump.
rimours suggest that mike ashley personally ordered Barton out of newcastle because he doesn t want to see more cnuts at st james ground.
He then ordered the maintenence men to remove all the mirrors from the premises.....
He then ordered the maintenence men to remove all the mirrors from the premises.....
He didn't even played in the center of the midfield last season.
He would not walk into the United midfield either. Such statements suggest to me some of United's fanbase criminally under-rate our midfield or as Twigginater says over-rate players who have half decent seasons for lower Premiership sides.
Barton's not in the same league as Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher or Giggs. All four of them are proven Premiership winning players and have a top record in the CL. If anyone thinks Barton is better or would oust any of them it shows how under-rated our central midfield is within some of our fanbase.
Barton's a better player than Gibson and more Premiership proven than Cleverley(who I think has the potential to be much better than Barton) but Fergie's been talking about getting a midfielder who would add to the first eleven. That's a player higher than what we already have, hence United only being linked with a select few players this summer. There are not many out there and even less who are available and even less who are available and affordable.
Do not want.
Guess he's better squad depth than Gibson, and if that's how he's used, I suppose there's no reason to object.
Still don't want.
Guess he's better squad depth than Gibson, and if that's how he's used, I suppose there's no reason to object.
Still don't want.
they'll be able to swap racing tips
Or maybe you just over-rate them instead of everyone else under-rating them. It certainly seems more likely that it's you who has got it wrong rather than nearly everyone else.
I can't understand how can anyone think that Barton would walk into our midfield considering his best season to date has come whilst playing on the right side of midfield. If we're planning to sign a Central Midfielder, then Tiote would be better.
He wasn't strictly a right midfielder, either. It was more of a flexible midfield three. Also, there were games when he partnered Tiote.
Why are some posters so determined to defend this twat.
Bit of a thug? Really? Do you hang out with anyone who would respond to a practical joke with a lit cigar in the eye?
I'm prone to overreactions myself, but none that could blind someone for showing a poor sense of humor. I have friends who are thugs who wouldn't go that far.
The Liverpool City Centre assault.
And here's a timeline. Not all events are crimes, or acts of violence, but more are than for most people. Two gems:
"July 2004: Incites a 10-man brawl during City's pre-season friendly at Doncaster after a violent challenge on Rovers' player Paul Green."
"May 2005: Breaks the leg of a 35-year-old pedestrian while driving his car through central Liverpool at 2am."-There was no mention of him being drunk at the time. If it was anyone else I could believe it was a mistake.
And from last November:
Nobody could be so threatened by Morten Gamst Perdersen that they'd need to punch him.
I haven't found any info about incidents from when he was a kid (and probably can't), so the list may be a lot longer.
We're not talking about a Hannibal Lecter here. This more like Robert Carlyle's character in "Trainspotting". He's too likely to react in a violent manner to actions that don't merit violence.
Not alot reasoning behind this post which makes it extremely thin and flimsy.
I could not give a feck if the entire forum thought Barton was better than those players, ask anyone playing the game or with a clue about understanding it and they would tell you a different story.
Let's put this debate in it's proper terms.
You got Micheal Carrick, Darren Fletcher, Anderson and Ryan Giggs. A quartet of players who were the mainstays of last season's Premiership title winning season and have played four one of the most consistently successful club in the world for the past five years. A side who has only once not won it's own domestic tital and whose poorest season in the CL was a quarter final.
Compared to Joey Barton, a player who has played for City and Newcastle his whole career and has just enjoyed his first proper decent season since his 05/06 for City. Apparently he's a better player than the above four players and would get into our side.
Alaistair was closest to getting it spot on. He would start for a top 6-8 side but would not be a starter for a top 1-5 side which very much includes United.
Worth a punt, imo.
No better than what we have, and a horrible cnut of a person.
No thanks.
No thanks.
I dont think he would walk in, but he would add depth.
I personally think that he would improve, given the chance to play with better players.
see, i hate to admit but I'd take Barton. He would be perfect for games against bottom 8 sides. Loads of energy, agression and desire- something we were missing at times. I feel dirty now.
I think it'd be hilarious if we signed Barton or Parker just to see the reaction on the Cafe!
I don't want it to happen, certainly not Barton because of his attitude and track record, but if it did they would each provide a good short term option. However I think Anderson and perhaps even Cleverley are ready to step up, with Pogba and co a year or two behind, so it's not necessary.
Barton is a good player and would improve any side outside of the top 6.
I don't want it to happen, certainly not Barton because of his attitude and track record, but if it did they would each provide a good short term option. However I think Anderson and perhaps even Cleverley are ready to step up, with Pogba and co a year or two behind, so it's not necessary.
Barton is a good player and would improve any side outside of the top 6.
Unfortunately I tend to agree. Against the more combative sides especially his experience and ability to get stuck in would be valuable for many a side.
He was excellent last year for newcastle, but he does have the outspoken and incendiary personality which would be a cause for concern, even ignoring his previous misdemeanors on and off the pitch.
That said, on a free Transfer he could prove to be a master stroke for a big club - he's clearly a very talented player, the question is whether they can keep him happy if he's not playing every week - if not I suspect thats when you start having problems with him speaking out and causing ructions.
Probably because it's heard to read moronic opinions about how we're better off with Gibson without responding.
Barton is a difficult character, with a poor disciplinary record but a decent midfielder. Someone who would improve our squad dramatically if he was to replace Gibson.
Roy Keane was a vastly superior player but arguably just as difficult a character, with a similarly poor disciplinary record. Which goes to show that the value of any player should be about how good they are at playing football not whether you'd bring him home to meet your mum.
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I wish he'd stop posting Nietzsche quotes like he's so deep.
Gibson, at least, will be know his place in the squad and not strop when he's left out of the team for weeks on end. I can't imagine Barton being anything other than a disruptive influence when he's not playing regularly, and there's no way he'd be our first choice in central midfield.
He appears to have come down with a severe case of 'Tony Adams.'
Unsurprisingly.
Unsurprisingly.
quoting Orwell, what a complete at utter tool.I never thought Michael Owen would be happy playing so little football as he has. Maybe joining a club like United gives a bit of perspective to players who would otherwise get the hump if they didn't start every game?
To be honest, I can't really be arsed going to great lengths to defend a toe-rag like Joey Barton and if it wasn't for some really silly comments about his ability as a footballer I wouldn't even bother. Well, that and my perennial irritation about this new trend for football to be a cult of personality where we have to "like" players to want them at our club.
I happen to think repeating the Michael Owen experiment in midfield makes a lot of sense. We've got Pogba, Morrison and Tunnicliffe all bubbling under and Cleverley might be very close to establishing himself as a first-team regular. Meanwhile, though, it would make sense to get a season or two of additional leadership, aggression and experience to our midfield, to hold the fort until our next generation of homegrown talent comes through.
Whether that player is Barton or not, I don't really care.
Cant wait till we sign him then our summer is complete. Domination of Barcelona and the footballing world will surely then be within our grasp
I'd like to think United would aim higher than Barton both as a player and person representing the club. I'm not sure I could ever cheer him in a United shirt.
As i've said, twice now Pogue, Owen is and has always been a model pro, Barton has always been a scum bag whose caused trouble where ever he's been.
There's no comparison.
As for a comparisn to Keane.... If Keane had been half as talented and played half as much there's a good chance he'd have been fecked off long before he was too.
There's no comparison.
As for a comparisn to Keane.... If Keane had been half as talented and played half as much there's a good chance he'd have been fecked off long before he was too.
I couldn't. I can't recall that ever happening before.
Even Sylvestre refused to make a move to Newcastle due to Barton.