Jose Mourinho Sack Watch

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That physio doll must have given some great "sports massages" for the players to be this pissed off.

I think Mourinho's style of management is the problem, I recall last season he thanked Hazard and Fabregas for playing while carrying injuries. That effects you in the long run, and I believe he burned out these players along with Oscar and Matic by making them run until their legs were little bloody stumps. That's great for one season but you pay the price at some stage..
 
Crikeny Mike I just started The Special One the Dark side of Jose Mourhino by Torres and Jenson. Don't know if its all true, but its fecking dynamite and brilliantly written. He is described as being in floods when he didn't get the United gig. Old news, I know..
 
It does seem like anti-management. What he said was he brought them to a level beyond their normal standard last year. This shows his genius, the predictiability of the situation when the squad wasnt added to. But theres another theme which came out in the R5L interview last night, that they are not humble enough, that they don't look at Leicester and Bournemouth as equals, that they don't try hard enough. But how do you fix that?
Exactly, and to suggest that of players like Costa, Terry, Fabregas, Hazard... just seems ridicules. The problem there is that he was the one who said the squad was already great and didn't need adding to.
There does seem to be a lot of over-inflated egos there to be fair, but that could be said about any big club with star players, managing that is simply part of the job, and if he deserves all his praise he should be able to do it.
 
Out of interest, what is the main issue people have here when it comes to managers 'throwing a player under the bus'?

If I was a football manager and my players were not pulling their weight I'd slam them too.

In most normal businesses this is the case too - why should I lose my job because these chumps can't, or won't, do their jobs properly?

Admittedly, I'm a bit of a dick though.
 
Out of interest, what is the main issue people have here when it comes to managers 'throwing a player under the bus'?

If I was a football manager and my players were not pulling their weight I'd slam them too.

In most normal businesses this is the case too - why should I lose my job because these chumps can't, or won't, do their jobs properly?

Admittedly, I'm a bit of a dick though.

As a manager it is your job to make sure the players are performing. If they are not that is on you.
 
As a manager it is your job to make sure the players are performing. If they are not that is on you.

To an extent, however I think it is evident that the players are not doing their best for Jose.

This is a title winning team, which Jose has built. For them to collapse in the way they have can't just be the managers fault.

As a result, I think it's understandable for him to publicly criticise individual players who he thinks are not performing.

It could, and probably will, cost him his job after all.
 
Also, real this time, here's a still from what Costa was up to last night. It beggars belief, the gall of him.

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To an extent, however I think it is evident that the players are not doing their best for Jose.

This is a title winning team, which Jose has built. For them to collapse in the way they have can't just be the managers fault.

As a result, I think it's understandable for him to publicly criticise individual players who he thinks are not performing.

It could, and probably will, cost him his job after all.
Agreed with you. Football players on the whole are full of crap. They know it doesn't matter if they perform well as the fans and the board will blame the manager and he will be sacked etc etc. Even so, he shouldn't call them out in public. If I were him, I would quietly drop the under performers in the first team and like some of the resident Chelsea fans here are suggesting - recall some of their talented loanees and let them have a go. In a year where the Euro is coming up, I'm sure the first teamers will enjoy sitting on the bench. Can't be any worse with the 'kids' or 'reserves' - they'll show some hunger at least.
 
Agreed with you. Football players on the whole are full of crap. They know it doesn't matter if they perform well as the fans and the board will blame the manager and he will be sacked etc etc. Even so, he shouldn't call them out in public. If I were him, I would quietly drop the under performers in the first team and like some of the resident Chelsea fans here are suggesting - recall some of their talented loanees and let them have a go. In a year where the Euro is coming up, I'm sure the first teamers will enjoy sitting on the bench. Can't be any worse with the 'kids' or 'reserves' - they'll show some hunger at least.
That would work if this wasn't Mourinho we're talking about. Mourinho is incapable of trusting in youngsters, especially in times of crisis.
That's why in the end it IS Mourinho's fault, he can't develop an alternative to his approach which stops working after 2 years, because it's not a progressive one.
 
Read this on another forum:

They picked a horrible time to implode & go into decline. Timing & the footballing landscape is everything. Even 4 years ago would have been salvageable as it was only City who were spending & rising with Ferguson sustaining Utd at the top. Everyone else in the Premier League was in a state of flux with the vast majority not improving for whatever reason if indeed anyone was bar the billions thrown around by City. Either teams were potless & hemorrhaging star players, i.e., Arsenal. Or not showing enough money or ambition to truly establish themselves, i.e., Spurs not buying Suarez, or indeed any striker, when in a great position of 3rd post xmas in the 2011-12 season. Or just showing terrible mismanagement & blowing hundreds of millions on crap, i.e., Liverpool. Or dour managers unwilling to risk their comfy position of 6th to 8th place because they were afraid of daring to strive for more, i.e., Moyes at Everton. Or the middle class being unambitious who had to balance budgets & make do with relatively limited money, unable to refuse the big offers from the ''top clubs''. Now, it's different. Everywhere you look, nearly every ****ing side in the division is improving. Forget Arsenal now regularly buying world class talent for over £30m & looking like title regulars once again, something that seemed laughable a mere 2 & a half seasons ago as everyone took the piss out of them. No, no, no, no, we are going well beyond that into the twilight zone now. Every side in the league are now able to buy good players from Europe. Newcastle bought one of the best players from the Dutch league last season, a player who might have seen at a Top 5 club a mere 4 years ago, i.e., Harry Redknapp's Spurs. They are able to scout the lower leagues, they are able to pour money into sport science, into statistical analysis, are able to reject £35m offers for their most promising players. And an even new bigger MEGA TV deal is just about to kick in starting in the summer. This will only going to grow, sides will continue to improve, continue to refuse offers, continue to improve all aspects of their clubs like scouting & sports science.

What a ****ing time for Chelsea to be doing this. Chelsea cannot go into debt by £250m to fix this squad. Utd can but Chelsea can't without falling foul off of FFP.. Jesus what a time to fall out of the CL spots, with half the squad biting at the bit wanting to leave in the summer because of no CL football, with them to be disinterested & striving to get away with little intention of sticking it out for 2-3 years minimum of just having the opportunity to maybe reach a CL final in 2018. Hazard hanging around between the ages of 25-27 with no possibility of winning the CL? It's one thing not being good enough but still being there, quite another to be out of it for 2-3 years hanging around.. Not to mention the other half either too old or not good enough at a time when the rest of the Premier League is surging ahead, improving all the time.

Chelsea couldn't have picked a worse time in the last 15 years to do this even if they tried. What a ****ing self created mess they have allowed themselves to walk into. Give Mourinho what he wants with players? Of course. Just look at what happened to Inter after he left. Sell Mata, De Bruyne, Lukaku, etc... while looking to the likes of an obviously declining Cesc Fabregas to do the short term fix. Everyone knew at Barca that Fabregas wasn't the player he was in his early Arsenal career. For crying out loud, they replaced him with Ratakic, But oh no, let Mourinho run shop. Buy Fabregas to fix the creativity problem without any idea how he fits into the side long term or how his performances might decline in the long term future as he continues to gets bypassed more & more often. Where did Wesley Sneijder end up shortly after Mourinho left Inter? Galatasaray. There is no way Fabregas is suited for an ever improving level of PL football as he heads towards 30. But Mourinho always thinks short term. De Bruyne? No. Lukaku, a player who is now starting to post some serious goal numbers at a very young age? No. Bar Neymar, there isn't a player in Lukaku's age group posting his numbers...

There's no long term plan. Buy Stones because Terry aging? Well, where's the thinking like Ferguson & Wenger did with Smalling & Koscienly? Develop them for the long term... Why put yourself in a position where Terry is on the cusp of 35 before going after Stones & especially low balling Everton? Can't he not look to the academy & or have his eye on a raw, unpolished talent with potential that might take 2-3 years to take over? Why wait until Terry is nearly 35? He came in in 2013. Why is he taking 2 seasons until Terry's legs are definitely gone? Wenger bought Sol Campbell when Tony Adams still at the captain & performing at the club. Ferguson bought Vidic when Ferdinand was in his prime.

He cannot make it easier for himself 3 years down the line with good planning.
 
That would work if this wasn't Mourinho we're talking about. Mourinho is incapable of trusting in youngsters, especially in times of crisis.
That's why in the end it IS Mourinho's fault, he can't develop an alternative to his approach which stops working after 2 years, because it's not a progressive one.
Will never understand this - especially as Chelsea do have some talented young ones, and especially as he's got nothing to lose now.
 
Also, real this time, here's a still from what Costa was up to last night. It beggars belief, the gall of him.

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Unbelievable, he's been awful all season. I think he's a really bad egg to have with the squad, he's trouble, with a capital T.

Chelsea would be best getting shut in the transfer window, his attitude toward opponents and teammates is pretty unacceptable.
 
Um. If Chelsea get relegated, does Mourinho get the sack?

Also, the way they're playing as it stands, they'd struggle to get out of the championship. It's not a walk in the park :|
 
Unbelievable, he's been awful all season. I think he's a really bad egg to have with the squad, he's trouble, with a capital T.

Chelsea would be best getting shut in the transfer window, his attitude toward opponents and teammates is pretty unacceptable.

In other words he's perfect for Chelsea and Mourinho.

Who will buy him after this? Where would he possibly go I wonder?
 
Good point although we did come back from the Moyes-era. If they appoint a new manager who gets them going again with 2-3 new quality signings they'll be fine.

I wouldn't say we've come back. :lol:
 
Pool would love him and best thing of all they would find reasons to genuinely defend his shenanigans.

I get the feeling that Costa is wanting out of the league, and there's no chance Liverpool would be able to buy him off Chelsea.

Realistically where could he go? PSG with Ibra about to finish his contract?
 
I get the feeling that Costa is wanting out of the league, and there's no chance Liverpool would be able to buy him off Chelsea.

Realistically where could he go? PSG with Ibra about to finish his contract?
Great idea. He'll be perfect character match with Di Maria and possibly Valdes going there too.
 
From The Shed End forum:

Neil Ashton in the Daily Mail reckons there is an emergency board meeting tomorrow, with Abramovich, Tenenbaum, Buck, Granovskaia and Emenalo. Survive that and he (JM) gets the season.
 
Crikeny Mike I just started The Special One the Dark side of Jose Mourhino by Torres and Jenson. Don't know if its all true, but its fecking dynamite and brilliantly written. He is described as being in floods when he didn't get the United gig. Old news, I know..

If Torres is involved it's gotta be wide of the mark
 
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