Jose Mourinho Sack Watch

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Mourinho is still a world class manager.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. I think he should just leave and take a break from the game. He seems to have lost that magic he had at Porto, Chelsea and Inter since his time at Madrid.

His second spell, I know they won the league last season without any opposition he has behaved like a cnut. Moan about the ref or say something silly after the game. The incident with the physio.

He should take a sabbatical and see what has gone wrong. Come back because there will be clubs queing for him.
 
It's funny. Roman's showing patience the one time he shouldn't.
But if he sacks him, who comes in to replace him. It might be worth accepting a bottom table finish and then giving Mourinho whatever funds he needs to challenge for the title again next season. He's still one of the two best managers in the world in my opinion -- unless they're getting Pep, sacking him won't solve a lot.
 
Even if Chelsea get another manager or change a set of players in January (they can't do both!), they will not finish top four.
Top six can be toxic, Europa League might compound their comeback next season.

In that case, it doesn't really matter where they finish as long as they don't get relegated, in which case it would be better to wait the season out with their most successful manager ever instead of getting a lesser manager in for short term. Stick with Mourinho, give him a good transfer window to sort things out. If things aren't working out early next season, kick him out.

I think he will last the season, unless there is a mass revolt by the players. It's time some of them left anyway, they don't deserve their pay. Fabregas, Hazard, Terry, Oscar, Costa and Matic - none of them are performing to close to what they are capable of, and don't seem to have the attitude and desire to do so either. Such players are toxic for any club.
 
Yes. Amazing manager being let down by his board and players. Seems like a genuinely nice guy too. Really hope Woodward can see what others can't right now and will bring him in.
I will despair if that happens, not that it matters mind.
Only thing interesting would be to see how Mourinho copes when he basically has all the power when buying players but no, we're better of sticking with VG for now and bring someone in the summer.
He'd probably love it though.
 
Time's up for this guy I think. The team does not want to play for him. He has called his own players as betrayers of his work. Should surely be the end game for the Self Obsessed One
 
But if he sacks him, who comes in to replace him. It might be worth accepting a bottom table finish and then giving Mourinho whatever funds he needs to challenge for the title again next season. He's still one of the two best managers in the world in my opinion -- unless they're getting Pep, sacking him won't solve a lot.

If he's lost the dressing room there's nothing he can do to turn it around. He basically said after last night's game the players didn't follow his instructions. Get a caretaker in for the rest of the season; we all know Roman loves himself a caretaker.
 
Jose could be an interesting option for Bayern if Pep leaves and Ancelotti doesn't want to come to Munich. If Chelsea fires him now, he can relax till summer and takes over a new club then.
 
It's funny. Roman's showing patience the one time he shouldn't.

Exactly what I was thinking. Everyone has been criticizing him for pulling the trigger early all these years, and the one time he should have, he is sitting around waiting for something.
 
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Roman making Steinbrenner and his Billy Martin firings look like sound management by comparison

What appears certain is that his record of never managing more than 3 seasons at a club in a row looks to be safe & secure
 
At this point, there is really nothing Jose can do. They are too stuck in a downward spiral and it won't change until they fluke a few wins.

Once that happens, I think they will be happy to still have Mourinho.
 
Even if Chelsea get another manager or change a set of players in January (they can't do both!), they will not finish top four.
Top six can be toxic, Europa League might compound their comeback next season.

In that case, it doesn't really matter where they finish as long as they don't get relegated, in which case it would be better to wait the season out with their most successful manager ever instead of getting a lesser manager in for short term. Stick with Mourinho, give him a good transfer window to sort things out. If things aren't working out early next season, kick him out.

I think he will last the season, unless there is a mass revolt by the players. It's time some of them left anyway, they don't deserve their pay. Fabregas, Hazard, Terry, Oscar, Costa and Matic - none of them are performing to close to what they are capable of, and don't seem to have the attitude and desire to do so either. Such players are toxic for any club.

In terms of European qualification their finishing place might not matter now but it's silly to suggest that they can just write off the season just to keep Jose. For a club as big as Chelsea it would be completely disastrous if they didn't finish in a respectable position. Also as good as a manager as Jose is there is absolutely no guarantee that he would definitely turn it around next season just with a few signings, Jose has to show something with his current team in the second half of the season or he will most likely be sacked.
 
It's a very strange situation. The club should either sack him, or categorically back him strongly so that players fall in line and putin their best. It's neither here nor there and the players now just seem to be waiting for things to get even worse and for him to go. I think they're better of with him, but not like this. If they choose him, the ownership should clearly tell the players to buck up or play reserve team football for a good while. Most will probably fall in line.
 
I think its time for them to think about hiring Tony Pulis so they dont go down. At this rate they may get relegated! :)
 
It's a very strange situation. The club should either sack him, or categorically back him strongly so that players fall in line and putin their best. It's neither here nor there and the players now just seem to be waiting for things to get even worse and for him to go. I think they're better of with him, but not like this. If they choose him, the ownership should clearly tell the players to buck up or play reserve team football for a good while. Most will probably fall in line.
But then they run the risk of it all backfiring spectacularly. If the players decide to throw in the towel anyway and tell their agents to start looking for a move, the club will have publicly backed themselves into a corner. You're right in the sense in that what they're doing currently is the worst option footballing-wise, but this is the only way they get to hedge their bets and save face whatever happens.
 
It's a very strange situation. The club should either sack him, or categorically back him strongly so that players fall in line and putin their best. It's neither here nor there and the players now just seem to be waiting for things to get even worse and for him to go. I think they're better of with him, but not like this. If they choose him, the ownership should clearly tell the players to buck up or play reserve team football for a good while. Most will probably fall in line.

Well Jose has hardly taken any hard stance either though, to replace these players he would have to play kids but Jose is never going to do it. In the last 7 league games they have won 1 and lost 5 but hardly any reserve or youth player has got a chance. Initially I felt bad for Jose because I felt that players were letting him down but after 16 games if the same players are playing every game then the manager has a lot to answer for IMO
 
As hilarious as all this is and even taking into account what a massive dick Mourinho is, Chelsea should probably still keep hold of him. We are talking about the best manager in their club's history (for what it counts) going through a bad patch. the first in his entire career.
 
The problem is far deeper than transfers. Last year after 16 games Chelsea were 1st with 39 points (12/3/1) with 36GF and 13GA. This season after 16 games Chelsea are 16th with 15 points (4/3/9) with 18GF and 26GA.

You cannot tell me that the departures of Drogba, Cuadrado, Filipe Luis, Cech, T. Hazard, Romeru and the arrivals of Pedro, Rahman, Begovic, Falcao, and Kenedy are the difference of 24 points over 16 games and the difference between 1 lose and 9. Chelsea's new arrivals haven't been spectacular but at the same time their departures weren't great loses when you consider Drogba was somewhat of a spent force, Cuadrado and Luis disappointed, they have a keeper of equal talent in Courtois and T. Hazard and Romeru never made an impact.

I'm with you on than complacency after a title win is a terrible attitude to have, especially considering the current European pantheon, however while they didn't particularly strengthen they didn't particularly get worse (in terms of general squad talent on day one) either. Considering their performance-ceiling last year and the improvements made by other teams and their current performances you'd at the very least expect this Chelsea team to be within the top four if not challenging for the title again. They'd be far from a safe bet for title winner but they should have been in the mix.

I don't have an answer for Chelsea's current predicament but their summer transfers aren't the primary reason. The squad is severely under performing and Mourinho's tactics simply aren't working. Yes they should have strengthened but this current crop of squad and staff have dropped the ball on a monumental scale so far this season and something has got to give.
This is the thing though, you're treating it like the players are robots and they will stay the same level and same motivation if the squad stays the same. That's not the case though.

Firstly, it was clear we needed signings last year for our first team. We needed another goal threat ala Griezmann, we needed another CM who could control a game (As we were thoroughly shown up against PSG because we lacked any control in midfield) and we needed either a CB or a more attacking LB. We didn't get any of these players that were first team quality. People are acting like we were great last season. We weren't. We were shit for most of the second half of last season and only got through games with our drive to win and our defensive solidity. In fact, we have slightly improved this season in terms of performance.

This brings me on to the second point where transfers fecked us. Motivation. It was clear that after we won the title our players were becoming complacent. We had put so much importance on winning the title that season our players forgot about afterwards. It didn't help that our main players had lost their hunger or didn't have much of it any way. Coming in to the summer, after hearing the reports on the players about the season, it was evident that they had become complacent and we needed to freshen things up a bit. Bringing in top class players to compete with them would have been perfect motivation for the players. We didn't being in anybody though and our first team players knew that they had zero competition and had lost almost all their drive and motivation to win. It shouldn't have been like that though and I have serious gripes with some players in this team but a lack of transfers set the tone for a shit season.
 
It's a very strange situation. The club should either sack him, or categorically back him strongly so that players fall in line and putin their best. It's neither here nor there and the players now just seem to be waiting for things to get even worse and for him to go. I think they're better of with him, but not like this. If they choose him, the ownership should clearly tell the players to buck up or play reserve team football for a good while. Most will probably fall in line.
They have though. They have publically backed him and reports say also privately. The players have seemingly turned around and said "feck you" anyway, probably knowing they wont get dropped, and haven't fought for their place in the club.
 
They have though. They have publically backed him and reports say also privately. The players have seemingly turned around and said "feck you" anyway, probably knowing they wont get dropped, and haven't fought for their place in the club.
I must have missed that. He's got no chance then. If the club have backed him and sent players the message to sort themselves out and taken his side, then Chelsea's stance has been given the finger by the players, and I reckon the club will have to sack him. You can't replace such a big chunk of the team for his sake.
 
Well Jose has hardly taken any hard stance either though, to replace these players he would have to play kids but Jose is never going to do it. In the last 7 league games they have won 1 and lost 5 but hardly any reserve or youth player has got a chance. Initially I felt bad for Jose because I felt that players were letting him down but after 16 games if the same players are playing every game then the manager has a lot to answer for IMO
He's just not a manager for youth, and this period proves it more than anything else. He will only play them when he's got nothing to play for at all. Funnily enough, that time might be coming soon for Chelsea.
 
Yeah you only signed Begovic, Pedro and Rahman....

65 million spent this summer.
Yep, most people - including our fans - seem to forget this. And we allegedly have one of the best youth academies in the PL.
The board's decisions have nothing to do with our current situation.
 
But then they run the risk of it all backfiring spectacularly. If the players decide to throw in the towel anyway and tell their agents to start looking for a move, the club will have publicly backed themselves into a corner. You're right in the sense in that what they're doing currently is the worst option footballing-wise, but this is the only way they get to hedge their bets and save face whatever happens.
I thought backing Mourinho would be the best move since he apparently wants to be there long term and you dont get to managers for the long term these days. However, as the Chelsea fan pointed out, they have backed him publicly and clearly, and still the players dont give a feck. So they probably dont have a choice but to sack him and get someone in who can bring them all together and playing for the team.
 
I reckon he'll stay until the Jan transfer season, and you'll see a massive overhaul.
It's clear that he's lost the current dressing room but Roman seems to be backing him (else he would've been sacked ages ago).

Wonder if Chelsea supporters are stilling backing him (I don't go to Chelsea forums).
I would be fairly impressed if they are.

Also wonder if Roman's going to pull the trigger, when is it going to happen?
At this right, they will miss out on any European action next season, and if things don't improve, they might well find themselves in the relgation battle!
 
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