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Jose Mourinho Sack Watch
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I dont know what to say?
Really hope we're on this if he's sacked, now.
Hiddink is the best short term cover till the end of the season. Then over the summer they could rehire Ancelotti on a "come-back-for-a-couple-of-months-see-if-you-like-it-basis" and when he leaves then John Terry gets the nod. That will work for about four weeks after which time the chairman, the board, people who know his dad, and finally the fans realize corporate meeter-greeter is about his level. Terry will be replaced by another stop gap appointment to repair the damage, say, Gus Hiddink, and so those four managers will see Chelsea through for about a full calendar year. Then they have a decision to make.
I'm a WUM for wanting us to hire one of the best managers in the world just because he's had a bad season with an unmotivated group of players? Get real mate.
I'd prefer Ancelotti at this point, but Jose won't be a bad choice as well. I'd say both are better than LvG currently.
I find it odd all people are bollocking Jose after one poor season in like how many years? 15? Klopp last year got Dortmund into relegation zone after half a season and he was welcomed as the new Messiah at Pool. Jose had a poor 3-4 months and he's turned to crap? Come on..
I think most people would be lost for words.
Heart wants what the heart wants.
Writings on the wall, the doctor fiasco will live long in the memory and certainly more than meets the eye with the collapse this season behind the scenes.
Assuming we can't get Pep...
Mourinho on a short-term deal wouldn't be the worst idea. Won't happen I suspect but would still find the scenario fascinating.
Mourinho on a short-term deal wouldn't be the worst idea. Won't happen I suspect but would still find the scenario fascinating.
It's his job to keep players motivated. One he's failing at big-time ATM.
And we'd be taking him at the most piss poor period of his career when even the fans that worship him want him gone.
Most importantly, this club prioritizes the bringing through and development of youth/young talent, something he is simply not interested in nor cut out to do.
And then there's the shit stirring cnutish behavior that he embodies.
So yeah, he's no Manchester United manager. Get real indeed.
I honestly thought you were on a WUM when you said Mourinho was a genuinely nice bloke. Fair enough if you weren't, although I don't think it comes across in his public persona and none of us know him in private. Hard to tell who's wumming on these forums, sometimes.
Pretty good dissection there from Titi (with Cesc right next to him
) I do agree that the manager can't be to blame entirely, and the players need to take a very very hard look at themselves. However it's up to the manager to take some tough decisions, which so far, Jose's just flirted with. Dropping Hazard, Matic, Cesc, Terry for a couple of games is well and good...but it doesn't seem to have worked.I'd be up for this happening
He's missed his chance to manage United...he's not what we need currently...
He's not a man manager, and after Moyes and LVG being major cnuts to the players, etc, we need someone who can effectively motivate the players in the right way...know who to push, and who to put an arm around...
He's not a man manager, and after Moyes and LVG being major cnuts to the players, etc, we need someone who can effectively motivate the players in the right way...know who to push, and who to put an arm around...
Reminds me of our current manager. Happens to most managers at some point. Hell, it even happened to Fergie! Fans are fickle creatures
So what?
Oh please, this club hasn't brought through youth in a decade. We sold our best youth player to Arsenal, and he arguably wasn't/isn't even good enough.
I dislike Mourinho a lot less than that absolute spoofer LvG
What exactly is a Man Utd manager? Seems to me your criteria is "basically the exact same as Fergie". Bit impossible to find that don't you think? Moyes and LvG clearly don't fit your criteria either, who would? At least Mourinho would likely bring trophies.
shedend with rumours that Juande Ramos might be the replacement.
Yes, that Ramos. The former Spurs manager.
Yes, that Ramos. The former Spurs manager.
May be he can complete finish what he started at Spurs.
(Mail) Chelsea considering Guus Hiddink as caretaker manager.
I hate they have ancelotti there. I want him as our next manager.
Carlo >pep>mourinho>any other upcoming manager(Pochettino,tuchel) >gary neville > Giggs.
(Express) Chelsea consider Nigel Farage as next manager.
I reckon JT has played a roll in the players seeming disillusionment with the manager.
JT probably played a role in Nazi Germany, the prick.
They had 2 points 8 games into the season when he was fired by Spurs.
Fully on board with your idea.
They need to let Jose chop some players in January. Send a message to the dressing room. Only way to fix it now without sacking him.
Its mad to think we are all whinging here about being 4th and not scoring enough goals. Lmao.
Its mad to think we are all whinging here about being 4th and not scoring enough goals. Lmao.
Was about to ask if it was him. That'd be great.
Lots of rumours swirling around. Still don't think he'll be sacked yet. If they don't beat Sunderland he could go though. Not really sure what to make of the Ramos stuff, came out of no where.
Don't go Jose 
Last thing they need right now is someone who will get them out of Europe.
Yes, that's him.
Funnily so, after being fired by Spurs , he got the Real Madrid job (yes, that Real Madrid).
He's a weird choice , but the Chelsea fans are hyperventilating at the thought of getting him. I wouldnt mind him one bit.
Never go back!
Special Juande? No thanks.
Really?! Maybe him at Spurs has clouded my memory.
A SAF side never collapsed this way to the point where his players were disinterested in playing for him. At least not once he had an elite level team at his disposal. This was a manager who wouldn't fall out of the top 3 forget hobbering around the relegation zone.
But that isn't per say a reason for not hiring Mourinho. For that, there are plenty of other more valid reasons. My comment was to clarify that it is Mourinho's responsibility either way, and he has to take the blame attached with the "disinterested" players he has.
It's previous obvious what that implies. I don't want Mourinho anywhere near the United primarily because he's unsuited to it. But all careers do often have trajectories and it is possible that Mourinho's greatest period in management is behind him. Just like LVG's best years were at Ajax. So picking up Mourinho at his lowest ebb when he's at the lowest possible point sounds like a strange time to go for him.
Either way, it's just an add-on concern if you consider him suited to the United job. I don't consider him suited to the United job regardless of his current predicament.
For what it's worth, I don't think his best days are behind him and he will recover from this blip. But timing is often important in life and should be considered.
Plain wrong. What you mean is that we haven't recreated the class of 92 over the last decade, which is impossible to do as it's something that special happens rarely in a club's history. We've brought through plenty of youth through the ranks over the last decade, and we're developing a lot of young players who we bought for big money. If you can't see the difference between the strategy of United as a football club, and the strategy of Mourinho as a manager, then you either don't understand one of the two well, or both. Over the last few years itself, plenty of young players - BOTH bought and brought through have been given chances at United, and are part of our future plans. The club prides itself of this and always has regardless of the fluctuating nature of academy talent. Mourinho is disinterested in youth.
You may not care about this, but a lot of fans do. And the club most certainly does.
LVG might, like Mourinho and all managers, say some weird stuff in public, but in his time here, he's handled himself well. Mourinho is about as classless a manager as there is. His obsession with Wenger, his blaming his players, his poking others in the eye, even his treatment of his staff. So far for us LVG has behaved well. You only dislike LVG because he's your manager and we're in 4th most likely. Maybe you'd like him more if we were 16th like Chelsea. Anyway, preferences and all that.
Except nothing suggests my criteria is "basically the same as Fergie".
Mourinho fails on a number of key criteria's for me:
- Football that's easy on the eye - Not a Mourinho thing
- A focus on young/young player development - The most un-Mourinho thing apart from Arsene Wenger
- Long term vision - Mourinho tends to ignore that and focus on the short-term
- Someone who can build unity - His players can often do anything for him, but he's also just as easily one of the most disruptive managers. Picking fights left, right and centre, shifting blame on to his players. He can keep that toxic attitude at Chelsea.
He is successful of course, but this season he has been a complete failure, and for me, he's just not the kind of manager I want at OT.
Guardiola and Ancelotti are much more the kind of managers we should be looking at. Or maybe even other lesser established names if they establish themselves more such as Pochettino.
Emery would be an interesting choice - hope that happens if Jose goes.
First of all Ive never understood how people have contracts that net them massive payments in the event they massively feck up! You are being fired for being woeful at your job but here, have a massive wedge of cash for being crap.
And secondly I would love Jose to get the sack, Leicester to win the league, Roman to offer the job to Ranieri who tells him to to get stuffed
And secondly I would love Jose to get the sack, Leicester to win the league, Roman to offer the job to Ranieri who tells him to to get stuffed
It's the nature of the job, though, isn't it? There aren't many high-level jobs with less job security than being the manager of a football club nowadays. The coaches have to have some kind of compensation otherwise there wouldn't be many willing to take the risk, especially at a club with a reputation for sacking managers like Chelsea.First of all Ive never understood how people have contracts that net them massive payments in the event they massively feck up! You are being fired for being woeful at your job but here, have a massive wedge of cash for being crap.
And secondly I would love Jose to get the sack, Leicester to win the league, Roman to offer the job to Ranieri who tells him to to get stuffed
No, I mean we've a shit youth record in the last decade, regardless of trying or not. I never said it had to be the class of 92, but one or two good first teamers wouldn't exactly be too much to ask for. Can we really say we've given youth that many chances? LvG sort of has but his chances are mostly throwing them into the deep end of a shark filled swimming pool and hoping they come out of it OK, even when they're clearly not ready or outright not good enough for us.
You think LvG has handled himself well? Nah, not for me. Constantly spews condescending, bad-shit crazy stuff that some seem to misinterpret as him being smarter than us when it comes to football when in reality he's a spoofer who just wants people to think he's smarter than him so he says all this bollocks and contradicts himself every week.
You say you're not specifically looking for SAF, but honestly, that list of criteria looks like you want SAF, or some other mystical manager I don't know of. Pep maybe comes closest but he hasn't been anywhere long enough yet to suggest he has a long term vision yet.
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