Jose Mourinho | 2017/18 Assessments | Poll Added

[Cheesy]

Early days but I think the Ibrahimovic + Lukaku issue is going to feck us up tactically speaking. Don’t think the two can ever fit into one side and there’ll be a lot of tossing and turning in styles to try and do so. Main victim is almost certainly going to be Martial who really should be the one we make the team around

I think they could potentially work fine in an attack-minded side if we were to opt for a 4-4-2, but in defensive-minded games we should probably be playing one or the other.

 

[engulfing]

We should have won, created enough chances in the first half to have finished them off. Unlucky to concede in the 90th minute. Mou was probably happy to just draw and rest and rotate. In the second half basel clearly wanted it more and that showed.

 

[Irrational.]

How exactly are we going to contain and overcome City in a couple of weeks?

This may sound strange, but I expect him to get a result in this game, more than against Brighton at the weekend.

 

[cyberman]

Should have won by 3 so its hard to blame Jose on this 1. Especially when we were so dominant for large parts of the game.

 

[kundalini]

Puts Lukaku on the right wing only to see them get an overlap on their left, with Lukaku nowhere to be seen; not the smartest decision that one.

Too many players taking it easy in the 2nd half. None of the subs seemed to want to do the basics.

 

[Smores]

So, the number of the strikers is what makes a tactic offensive? Ok, then 11 strikers defending in their own half is offensive? Please...

What?

We had two defenders on the bench and a midfielder. If the coach was setting out to be defensive which ones do you think would come on?

 

[Di Maria's angel]

Is it that the critics are fickle? Or that the apologists have no defence apart from blind loyalty and name-calling?

So we didnt play well in the first half? Do you think Lukaku should have scored his 1v1? Or Fellaini should have scored a very easy chance? Add to that the goal line clearance? Also Rojo hit the bar. Like I said, we really should have a scored two or three in the first half. Not sure how thats blindly defending Mourinho? I guess you have to be negative to support United these days.

 

[Ishdalar]

This may sound strange, but I expect him to get a result in this game, more than against Brighton at the weekend.

It's not strange, Mourinho has parked the bus and got draws or even wins against Pep or similar minded coaches vs Barça a lot of times.

 

[walkinhop]

What a shit post. So fecking tiresome. What about the first 60 minutes where we created several chances? Again, did you watch the match or just the last 20-25 minutes? We have so many games coming up, we went for it at the beginning and decided we didnt need to push too hard as were close to qualification anyway. But, go on, harp on about your anti-Mourinho garbage.

Some of the posters on this forum are extremely anti-Mourinho. Some other posters on here are extremely anti-anti-Mourinho posters.
This has led to a very dual type of thinking where if you are not with us you must be against us. Reminds me of American politics to be honest.
The pitiful amount of chances created might be enough for some, not for me. Is this extreme?
The negative showing the second half might be ok for some but not for me. Is this a shit opinion?
After several mangers, plenty of summers, enough cash spent, i expect something more against Basel. Is that too much?

Please, stop putting people in boxes regarding Mourinho. I'm not happy when we suck and happy when we don't. Couldn't care less about the manager's name.

 

[Ss3bba]

The game was approached in the right spirit. Pogba is coming back from a serious injury so taking him off was a good move. The players who remained on the pitch could easily have won that game. The guy brought on an extra striker ffs. People are making their arguments from a preconceived view point.

 

[Treble]

The away games since the previous international break:

Liverpool 0:0
Benfica 0:1 win
Huddersfield 2:1 loss
Swansea 2:0 win
Chelsea 1:0 loss
Basel 1:0 loss

That's a poor away form. 3 losses in the last 4 away games. Failed to score in 3 out of the 6 games.

But today the loss was unlucky given the chances in the first half. Watford away and Arsenal away will be good opportunities to improve the away form.

 

[JohnnyKills]

So we didnt play well in the first half? Do you think Lukaku should have scored his 1v1? Or Fellaini should have scored a very easy chance? Add to that the goal line clearance? Also Rojo hit the bar. Like I said, we really should have a scored two or three in the first half. Not sure how thats blindly defending Mourinho? I guess you have to be negative to support United these days.

I agree we played well. Completely. But we didn't score, so what does Mourinho do when the game was in the balance? Make our team even bigger and stronger, at the expense of our most dangerous attacker.

 

[Kapardin]

Players were too lax in the second half.

He was right to bring on Matic and play for a draw, as our FBs were terrible.

He had to sub off someone to bring on Zlatan, and as Lukaku is already struggling for form, there was no choice but to bring Martial off.

We are also through to the next round, so this and the next game is practically dead rubber assuming we don't suffer a heavy loss. Relax.

 

[JohnnyKills]

Some of the posters on this forum are extremely anti-Mourinho. Some other posters on here are extremely anti-anti-Mourinho posters.
This has led to a very dual type of thinking where if you are not with us you must be against us. Reminds me of American politics to be honest.
The pitiful amount of chances created might be enough for some, not for me. Is this extreme?
The negative showing the second half might be ok for some but not for me. Is this a shit opinion?
After several mangers, plenty of summers, enough cash spent, i expect something more against Basel. Is that too much?

Please, stop putting people in boxes regarding Mourinho. I'm not happy when we suck and happy when we don't. Couldn't care less about the manager's name.

Good post. Let's stop the stupid name-calling.

 

[Jed I. Knight]

Some of the posters on this forum are extremely anti-Mourinho. Some other posters on here are extremely anti-anti-Mourinho posters.
This has led to a very dual type of thinking where if you are not with us you must be against us. Reminds me of American politics to be honest.
The pitiful amount of chances created might be enough for some, not for me. Is this extreme?
The negative showing the second half might be ok for some but not for me. Is this a shit opinion?
After several mangers, plenty of summers, enough cash spent, i expect something more against Basel. Is that too much?

Please, stop putting people in boxes regarding Mourinho. I'm not happy when we suck and happy when we don't. Couldn't care less about the manager's name.

Great post!

 

[Sylar]

I have no issues with Jose today. he rotated and tbh we should have scored at least 3 in the first half. In the second we were losing control so he brought on rashford for Lingard to push us the other way.
Then brought on Matic for Pogba (who had to come off imo). Then Zlatan for Martial was always going to happen cos it was either him or Martial and we know what Jose will go for (though I think it lost us a bit of balance)

The problem was hes working with left back and a right back who were left over from a previous regime who are simply shocking. Blind has regressed. Darmian is not good unless we sit back

And see how the players upped the urgency once we conceded. Where was that at 0-0? They were just happily passing it around before that (and not passing it well).

 

[haram]

We were good for 60 minutes and created a bucket load of chances. Basel, who arent a bad team by any measure, came at us and nicked the win. Honestly, we should have been 3-0 up at half time but for poor finishing from two of the three named above. We hit the woodwork twice, Martial could have had two as well. We were poor in the last 30 but people are so fickle and the same lot are literally hoping for something to go wrong to emphasise their biased bullshit.

Exactly.

 

[Robbie Boy]

I think he's done a good job and we look a far better outfit than we did under LvG. My biggest grievance with him is some of the negative tactics he deploys away from home.

 

[Lentwood]

There’s clearly an agenda on here by some members when Jose gets stick because our B team lose to Basel in 4th gear

If anything it should highlight how far we have come because not long ago the painfully average plodders like Herrera, Blind and Darmian where first team regulars!

 

[Son Of Sam]

Players were too lax in the second half.

He was right to bring on Matic and play for a draw, as our FBs were terrible.

He had to sub off someone to bring on Zlatan, and as Lukaku is already struggling for form, there was no choice but to bring Martial off.

We are also through to the next round, so this and the next game is practically dead rubber assuming we don't suffer a heavy loss. Relax.

Fellaini offers nothing when Ashley Young isn’t on the pitch. Jose can take some blame on that issue. Darmian and Blind are uber-useless. They should be relegated to strictly home games against championship sides in the Carabao Cup.

 

[el3mel]

When we defeated Newcastle it was only 3 replays here after the game, a lose today and it's 3 pages already filled in minutes after the game, but then yeah I was wrong about the direction this thread has been going for since page 1.

 

[gavdim2002]

We need Mata

 

[Di Maria's angel]

Some of the posters on this forum are extremely anti-Mourinho. Some other posters on here are extremely anti-anti-Mourinho posters.
This has led to a very dual type of thinking where if you are not with us you must be against us. Reminds me of American politics to be honest.
The pitiful amount of chances created might be enough for some, not for me. Is this extreme?
The negative showing the second half might be ok for some but not for me. Is this a shit opinion?
After several mangers, plenty of summers, enough cash spent, i expect something more against Basel. Is that too much?

Please, stop putting people in boxes regarding Mourinho. I'm not happy when we suck and happy when we don't. Couldn't care less about the manager's name.

Yeah I expect more, too. I expect our players to score goals from the chances created. I expect Lukaku to score an easy 1v1 chance. I also expect Fellaini not to miss a very simple header that should have put us 2-0 up.

Problem is you dont see the bigger picture. There was a plan, not just to win the game but win without consuming too many resources i.e. players. The plan would have been to allow Pogba to play 60 minutes, to have Fellaini and Rojo gain some game time, to allow Ibra 20 minutes all whilst attempting to be a goal or two up at half time. If it were not for poor finishing, that plan would have worked. It didnt but I see more than one game.

There are bigger games coming up and were trying to get a few of our players game time before these fixtures. The negative football is moot statement as we definitely went for the win for an hour. But for whatever reason, you want to ignore that.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

I really don't understand the fetish to keep Lukaku on all the time even while bringing on Zlatan when we were struggling for width.

There's a much better chance you're going to create a chance through Martial on the wing than Lukaku on the wing.

 

[milemuncher777]

Yeah I expect more, too. I expect our players to score goals from the chances created. I expect Lukaku to score an easy 1v1 chance. I also expect Fellaini not to miss a very simple header that should have put us 2-0 up.

Problem is you dont see the bigger picture. There was a plan, not just to win the game but win without consuming too many resources i.e. players. The plan would have been to allow Pogba to play 60 minutes, to have Fellaini and Rojo gain some game time, to allow Ibra 20 minutes all whilst attempting to be a goal or two up at half time. If it were not for poor finishing, that plan would have worked. It didnt but I see more than one game.

There are bigger games coming up and were trying to get a few of our players game time before these fixtures. The negative football is moot statement as we definitely went for the win for an hour. But for whatever reason, you want to ignore that.

Good post

 

[acnumber9]

Do you have to be on the surface of the sun to know it's fecking hot?

That's a superb analogy. Well done.

 

[haram]

Some people have been completely and utterly brainwashed by the media into thinking everything Mourinho does is defensive.

 

[Hugh Jass]

If we had a bit more luck tonight we would have been three nil up by half time. Hell if they had scored earlier, we would have perked up.

Shit result but not the end of the world.

 

[Catt]

How exactly are we going to contain and overcome City in a couple of weeks?

We have a good record at home.

 

[Rajma]

Some people have been completely and utterly brainwashed by the media into thinking everything Mourinho does is defensive.

Media? What it is got to do with anything here? Are you assuming other people are less intelligent because they watch our games and see, evidently, defensive or very conservative tactics away from home?

 

[walkinhop]

Yeah I expect more, too. I expect our players to score goals from the chances created. I expect Lukaku to score an easy 1v1 chance. I also expect Fellaini not to miss a very simple header that should have put us 2-0 up.

Problem is you dont see the bigger picture. There was a plan, not just to win the game but win without consuming too many resources i.e. players. The plan would have been to allow Pogba to play 60 minutes, to have Fellaini and Rojo gain some game time, to allow Ibra 20 minutes all whilst attempting to be a goal or two up at half time. If it were not for poor finishing, that plan would have worked. It didnt but I see more than one game.

There are bigger games coming up and were trying to get a few of our players game time before these fixtures. The negative football is moot statement as we definitely went for the win for an hour. But for whatever reason, you want to ignore that.

The game in Russia would've been a much better place to rest quite a few players. I agree with giving some minutes to a few people today. Let me be honest though,

If this was a one off, i would be right there with you. If this was just a plan gone wrong because of whatever reason, i would be happy to keep calm and move on. A creeping feeling of mine, however, is that i've seen these showings already. I've seen them against top and mediocre clubs. How often can we rely on someone to score one of 2-3 chances? Why can't we let some young players loose and see what happens, instead of losing with the first team? There are many approaches and this is getting old. I just think we can do better and should aspire to do so, not coward way in the safe zone.

 

[Josep Dowling]

He got it wrong tonight for me. Should try to win the game first before sitting back.

Then brings on Zlatan for Martial, who arguably was our only threat going forward. Not only does Martial looked annoyed at coming off but Lukaku, who was was awful again tonight, is shipped out to RW! Lukaku then tries to go back into his natural position which is central.

So what happens for the goal, Darmian is left isolated with two men to cover because Lukaku hasn’t tracked back and allows the cross in.

It isn’t a must win game but it makes things less comfortable and now means we must get a point in the CSKA game just before the derby. A ridiculous position to be in really.

 

[RedPed]

Just ONE comment immediately after the Newcastle game on Saturday.

We get a defeat and THREE pages of crap! Whingers just please feck off!

 

[haram]

Media? What it is got to do with anything here? Are you assuming other people are less intelligent because they watch our games and see, evidently, defensive or very conservative tactics away from home?

Would these comments have been made when Fergie was manager and we set up differently away from home in the CL? No. We should have been 3-0 up at HT.

 

[Rajma]

He got it wrong tonight for me. Should try to win the game first before sitting back.

Then brings on Zlatan for Martial, who arguably was our only threat going forward. Not only does Martial looked annoyed at coming off but Lukaku, who was was awful again tonight, is shipped out to RW! Lukaku then tries to go back into his natural position which is central.

So what happens for the goal, Darmian is left isolated with two men to cover because Lukaku hasn’t tracked back and allows the cross in.

It isn’t a must win game but it makes things less comfortable and now means we must get a point in the CSKA game just before the derby. A ridiculous position to be in really.

Thankfully, we don't need points just not to get spanked 5-0 by CSKA to come out on top.

 

[Hugh Jass]

He got it wrong tonight for me. Should try to win the game first before sitting back.

Then brings on Zlatan for Martial, who arguably was our only threat going forward. Not only does Martial looked annoyed at coming off but Lukaku, who was was awful again tonight, is shipped out to RW! Lukaku then tries to go back into his natural position which is central.

So what happens for the goal, Darmian is left isolated with two men to cover because Lukaku hasn’t tracked back and allows the cross in.

It isn’t a must win game but it makes things less comfortable and now means we must get a point in the CSKA game just before the derby. A ridiculous position to be in really.

We did not try to sit back. If we sat back, they would not have had as many chances as they had in the second half. Also, he would not have brought on Zlatan if we were sitting back.

He got it wrong, by not being defensive enough. He should not have brought on Zlatan.

 

[Catt]

@Josep Dowling. The tactics tonight was clearly to go out and win the game with the way we played in the first half. We didn't sit back.

 

[Hugh Jass]

@Josep Dowling. The tactics tonight was clearly to go out and win the game with the way we played in the first half. We didn't sit back.

This 100%.

Rashford, Lukaku and Zlatan did not bother defending, that is how open we were. If we had defended we would have drawn.

 

[E-mal]

Am not his biggest fan.

 

[TwoSheds]

Nothing without Pogba.