Jose Mourinho | 2017/18 Assessments | Poll Added

Your stance

  • Top manager in charge of a major rebuild. Needs more time and/or money.

    Votes: 684 43.8%

  • Made improvements but we've stagnated. Sack him if we drop out of top 4

    Votes: 377 24.1%

  • He's not the right fit. Sack him and get someone else who can get more out of our squad

    Votes: 502 32.1%
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Up until recently he was doing a good job, was instilling the right mentality back into the squad and got us some very needed trophies. We started the season very well. That being said, it's just gotten worse and worse since that Stoke game.

Let him go, get in a DOF and let a new manager have a few years to really imprint an identity on this squad because as of now we just look like a squad made up of many different parts.

We will forever be nearly men until the club starts planning for the future, rather than trying to find a quick fix. If they wanted Mourinho so bad, why the feck did they hire LVG and provide him with so much money? City wanted Pep and planned for him years before by bringing in his friends, improving the youth system etc. They provided a very good manager with a platform, something we haven't done since SAF left. We've been throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks.

Mourinho if given time will win things, but I don't think we have much time left, we've spent enough money already. LVG spent a feck ton himself, with half those players being sold and not good enough. We can't just keep aimlessly spending money, hiring managers without the patience to give them time or the platform for them to thrive, then sacking them and rinsing and repeating.

The problem though is, if Jose was to leave, who is available? Poch looks happy and has said before he'd be happy to stay at Spurs and if he were to leave, he'd get offers from much more stable jobs than we have. Pep isn't an option. Simeone would make the fans just as unbearable as they are now.

The club is in the shitter and until we start looking to the future rather than trying to find a quick fix, we won't get anywhere.
 
He can piss off when his contract ends, sick of watching how we play in the big away games. Not expecting gung ho all out attack but at least show some intent.

Would be nice to have a few shots on target, never mind a goal... his plan when chasing seems to be stand everyone in a line and launch it in :mad:
 
kouroux said:
He's really clueless isn't he ? Rashford in corner kicks, starting Mkhitaryan. Doing the same shit that doesn't work over and over again. Modern football seems to have gone past him I'm afraid. He just isn't flexible nor brave enough.
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He's pretty archaic, yes, but I was of the opinion he was before he came here. I hoped for the best but I have no confidence in him whatsoever now.
 
A week ago he was the messiah. Now he is no good. Lads, it was always going to be a tough match. The facts speak for themselves. One win in 15 attempts at Stamford Bridge. We simply always find it tough at Stamford Bridge. When they come to Old Trafford you will see us dominate like we did last season. The team that plays at home, has the advantage.

To be honest, it was the loss to Huddersfield that hurt us more. That was unexpected. This was expected.
 
Not entirely sure he seems to be able to adapt. His ideal style of football is the same as that 12 years ago. Doesn’t seem to work anymore.
 
Yagami said:
He's pretty archaic, yes, but I was of the opinion he was before he came here. I hoped for the best but I have no confidence in him whatsoever now.
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We just beat Spurs last week. Its not as bad as posters are making out.
 
simonhch said:
I’m not going to call for a manager to get sacked when we have his record; but I will not be sorry to see him go. fecking disgusting football, week after week except against minnows. And he’s a complete and utter bell end to go with it.
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Yeah completely agree
 
Hugh Jass said:
A week ago he was the messiah. Now he is no good. Lads, it was always going to be a tough match. The facts speak for themselves. One win in 15 attempts at Stamford Bridge. We simply always find it tough at Stamford Bridge. When they come to Old Trafford you will see us dominate like we did last season. The team that plays at home, has the advantage.

To be honest, it was the loss to Huddersfield that hurt us more. That was unexpected. This was expected.
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Really? He’s been under scrutiny for a month or so now. The last 4 games have seen us score 2 goals like Kag says.
 
#07 said:
Personally, I think Mourinho buckled under press pressure. We had an open approach all game and paid for it.

It was almost suicidal to continue with a two man midfield when Chelsea started with three top quality players against us. However, all those disheartened by our performance at Anfield can feel delighted that although we lost we weren't ultra defensive. Right? :rolleyes:
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Aye it's the fans' fault that they expect a manager who has spent nearly £300 million to be able to build and set up a team that can actually attack against decent opposition...
 
I just think Chelsea were better today. I've been moaning more than most about the Liverpool performance which I thought was pretty much unforgivable, but today was better. We didn't give them much (the goal was a shambles) and we tried to play. Problem is we're just not good enough.. Mkhi doesn't carry his own weight and Lukaku can't operate in a match like this. And the way way we played when Chelsea backed right off in the last 10 minutes or so was embarrassing - long balls from defenders under zero pressure, then a whole lot of Matic and Herrera fannying about while all our attackers stood next to all their defenders somewhere near their box. Pointless. I blame Jose for those last few minutes - it wa a shambles. But the rest of the match? I'm happy we had a go.
 
Mkhitarian has apparently started all but one PL game this season. What has he done to deseve that? There's no way he should start ahead of Martial who is a far better footballer.
 
Hugh Jass said:
We just beat Spurs last week. Its not as bad as posters are making out.
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It's not just one game - be it a bad or good performance. He's been here over a year, spent god knows how much money, and, in my opinion, we play garbage more often than not.
 
Yagami said:
He's pretty archaic, yes, but I was of the opinion he was before he came here. I hoped for the best but I have no confidence in him whatsoever now.
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I suppose i'll keep supporting and hoping his team does well but honestly i can say it's finally over the whole appreciating him. It's too much for me :lol:
 
DWelbz19 said:
Really? He’s been under scrutiny for a month or so now. The last 4 games have seen us score 2 goals like Kag says.
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Someone even started a thread after the Spurs match saying Mou is the man. One win doesnt make a season and neither does one loss a week later.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Wait, that was us being attacking? :lol:
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It was much more open than the approach we took at Liverpool. Rashford should've scored in the first 10 minutes but closed his eyes when the cross came in. Our back line was far higher up the pitch than at Liverpool, hence why Morata was able to run into space at least three times behind our defence, and we pressed pretty hard in patched all game.

Mourinho was criticised about going to Anfield, playing a low block and hoofing it all game. I'd have happily taken that if it meant avoiding a defeat. 6 points off the top would've been much better than 8.
 
Stringer said:
Aye it's the fans' fault that they expect a manager who has spent nearly £300 million to be able to build and set up a team that can actually attack against decent opposition...
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Yeah you're just a spoilt no-nothing mate, you need to stop using your eyes and brain and just clap the team mindlessly ;)
 
Hugh Jass said:
Pretty much. Some fans have unrealistic expectations. If we win at Stamford Bridge it is luck.
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That is nonsense. Having a poor record doesn't mean we should just accept that sort of performance otherwise why even bother showing up. That's a pathetic mentality for a supposed 'big' club.
 
#07 said:
It was much more open than the approach we took at Liverpool. Rashford should've scored in the first 10 minutes but closed his eyes when the cross came in. Our back line was far higher up the pitch than at Liverpool, hence why Morata was able to run into space at least three times behind our defence, and we pressed pretty hard in patched all game.

Mourinho was criticised about going to Anfield, playing a low block and hoofing it all game. I'd have happily taken that if it meant avoiding a defeat. 6 points off the top would've been much better than 8.
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Because you get 2 points for a draw now?
 
Hugh Jass said:
A week ago he was the messiah. Now he is no good. Lads, it was always going to be a tough match. The facts speak for themselves. One win in 15 attempts at Stamford Bridge. We simply always find it tough at Stamford Bridge. When they come to Old Trafford you will see us dominate like we did last season. The team that plays at home, has the advantage.

To be honest, it was the loss to Huddersfield that hurt us more. That was unexpected. This was expected.
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Hardly. In the summer many of us were saying that he had survived by the skin of his teeth, thanks to a Europa League win, and this season he needed to produce a credible title challenge and some decent football to the fans. Both of those are melting away in front of our eyes. I think he should rightly be up for review at the end of the season.
 
Yagami said:
It's not just one game - be it a bad or good performance. He's been here over a year, spent god knows how much money, and, in my opinion, we play garbage more often than not.
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I am sorry but that not true. We play miles better at home than we did under Moyes and Van Gaal.

I know posters are pissed off because we lost the match, but we arent as bad as some are making out.
 
Stringer said:
Aye it's the fans' fault that they expect a manager who has spent nearly £300 million to be able to build and set up a team that can actually attack against decent opposition...
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We don't set the fees we're charged. Just because we have spent a lot it doesn't necessarily mean the players we have are great. Mkhi and Lindelof cost a combined £60m. Are you telling me they're worth that?

People have to be realistic. Our best midfielder is injured. We don't have anyone who can link play like him. We're playing a top quality team. Why is it worth going to Stamford Bridge, playing with a relatively high line and leaving ourselves 8 points off City? I'd have happily taken a bore score draw and kept within two good results of City.
 
He's stuck in his own little bubble. He needs to acknowledge his current methods are now becoming borderline Jurassic. He needs to up his game & stop being so predictably one dimensional.
 
kouroux said:
He's really clueless isn't he ? Rashford in corner kicks, starting Mkhitaryan. Doing the same shit that doesn't work over and over again. Modern football seems to have gone past him I'm afraid. He just isn't flexible nor brave enough.
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We have some good players, but the level of football is dire. Our passing is just pitiful, and there is so much pointless hoofing by our players. We seem incapable of building play from the back. It was not until Fellaini came on that we managed to get some attacks going, because he is the only player we have currently that can hold the ball up.

Our tempo is also shit, instead of speeding up play, we constantly slow it down giving the opposition plenty of time to organize their team. We look clueless on the ball, the players don't make the right runs and pick the right positions, the only time we look like a well drilled team is when we are defending.

Does he work on any attacking play at all in training ?? It sure does not look like it.
 
Gambled with two men in front of the ball. Made the right substitution. In these games, the team who scores first wins the game. Lukaku was invisible.
 
#07 said:
We don't set the fees we're charged. Just because we have spent a lot it doesn't necessarily mean the players we have are great. Mkhi and Lindelof cost a combined £60m. Are you telling me they're worth that?

People have to be realistic. Our best midfielder is injured. We don't have anyone who can link play like him. We're playing a top quality team. Why is it worth going to Stamford Bridge, playing with a relatively high line and leaving ourselves 8 points off City? I'd have happily taken a bore score draw and kept within two good results of City.
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So everytime Pogba gets injuried we will have to go to shit and wait until he comes back?
 
Hugh Jass said:
I am sorry but that not true. We play miles better at home than we did under Moyes and Van Gaal.

I know posters are pissed off because we lost the match, but we arent as bad as some are making out.
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We're better than we were under LVG and Moyes but that's a low, low barrier. Improvement has been evident but for the amount of money we've spent the football we're producing isn't great. That'd be fine if it were reaping rewards in regards to competing for the title, but as it stands we're looking like a team who'll finish around 3rd, probably with a points total in the 70s.
 
Ace of Spades said:
We have some good players, but the level of football is dire. Our passing is just pitiful, and there is so much pointless hoofing by our players. We seem incapable of building play from the back. It was not until Fellaini came on that we managed to get some attacks going, because he is the only player we have currently that can hold the ball up.

Our tempo is also shit, instead of speeding up play, we constantly slow it down giving the opposition plenty of time to organize their team. We look clueless on the ball, the players don't make the right runs and pick the right positions, the only time we look like a well drilled team is when we are defending.

Does he work on any attacking play at all in training ?? It sure does not look like it.
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I'm fairly sure it's not considered as priority, there is no other explanation. Much weaker teams attack more coherently than us. His coaching during attacking phases is a joke at this level.
 
Sammyjunn said:
He didnt say we played better under Moyes and van Gaal.[/QUOTE
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The latter is massive exaggeration. Look at Mourinho's best home performance with us and think of some of Van Gaal's better days. There's not much difference.
 
kouroux said:
I suppose i'll keep supporting and hoping his team does well but honestly i can say it's finally over the whole appreciating him. It's too much for me :lol:
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Yep, we'll of course keep supporting but there's no faith in him. I mean, if that Anderlecht player hadn't missed an open net we wouldn't be in the CL. He isn't showing any signs of progress in terms of how well we actually play. The results are there; not so much the performances.
Hugh Jass said:
I am sorry but that not true. We play miles better at home than we did under Moyes and Van Gaal.

I know posters are pissed off because we lost the match, but we arent as bad as some are making out.
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Even when we were winning 4-0 I wasn't convinced. Being better than Moyes and van Gaal shouldn't be an achievement. Our football under him is totally uninspiring.
 
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