People say Guardiola is overrated because of the players he has, if Mourinho was managing Man City I think they would've lost today against Chelsea.
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Look at all you wallys panicking. He hasn't got a LB because of Shaw's failings which I'm sure will be sorted out in the summer. It's not Mou's fault that Rojo is injured or that Pogba is injured. It's not Mou's fault Phil Jones is a bag of shite. Sadly, despite what we've spent, our squad isn't good enough to compete with City's.
Agreed. Got it very wrong today.
In those past 4 years we didn't have such an easy starting schedule after spending 300+ million.
While i can see your reasoning but our team has had a literal strip down since Fergie retired, both Chelsea and City haven't had to replace players as important as Evra, Rio, Vidic, Rooney, Rvp, Scholes, Giggs, Carrick etc. And it didn't help with the mismanagement done by Moyes and LVG regarding their transfers.
Conte pretty much inherited Jose's title winning team, the context is very different.
If Pep has spent 350 million and that's the reason why his team is so good, maybe Jose's United should be a bit better than today's nonsense after spending 250-300 million? Very disappointing last few weeks from us under him.
Well no, but if Mourinho doesn't think a player like Jones is good enough then it is his job to move him on from the club.
Oh piss off. Jones has been our best defender. Mourinho could not get his team to score in 8 of the 10 last away games to the top 6. Tells more about Mourinho than anyone else.
Good point. Give Guardiola our squad and he will still get them playing some excellent and fruitful football, give Mourinho Manchester City and he will bench Silva, KDB, Jesus in favour of grafters.
You contradict yourself. The last part is Mourinho's fault entirely. And he is responsible for the team selection. How many times can one blame the players and not the manager?
It's not about Mkhitaryan, it's how Mourinho sets up. Mkhitayran would revel in Liverpool's Klopp team. He looks dog shite cause we have a boring manager. Its the same for Lukaku.
We can't attack at all now cause of the mindset at start of the game. Chelsea were a team for the taking, but Mourinho decided he did not want to lose.
Clueless today, completely missed with his tactics. Only one team on the pitch for the last 70 mins
Spot on.
I can't believe the amount of excuses being thrown around to absolve Jose of any blame which he should take.
Now you have people laughing at those that expected us to be challenging for the title this year and calling everyone who did so delusional and overrating our own players. It's a cycle on these boards. We start the season having spent huge, everyone from players, fans and manager expecting to go for the title then when the managers feck ups screw us over, the manager apologists come up with all these drivel about not having a good enough squad to challenge.
It's actually quite pathetic how far some would go to justify the horrendous stuff we get fed despite having an expensively assembled squad.
This comes down to the manager and how get his players to play. We've seen countless times far inferior players than ours playing some good and better footballer than us simply due to how well drilled and set up their managers have them.
These players in no way are shit. Another excuse for the manager.
We have spent the nearly the same amount of money as City over the last three seasons. They have ended up with a team hammering everyone with top quality football. Their bench players could go straight into our first 11.
We need to stop making excuses, the club is not getting value for money from the players we are buying.
Sold and not signed provably.
You know how Klopp is ridiculed for his inability to organize a defence? Mourinho is the same about attack. A joke.
Frustrating to get dominated by such an average Chelsea side.
Just shows his limitations as a good attacking coach. No wonder we are so shite attacking wise. Wish he either improves or fecks off. We have had disastrous managerial appointments since SAF left and Mourinho will be one of them. He just cannot get his team to play good attacking football against any half decent team.
I think he'll put the club on stable ground, but I hope he doesn't stay too long, I can't stand watching the team honestly.
He had clear issues with Shaw last season so why wasn't a replacement bought instead of wasting another season without an actual left back? That's on Mourinho. As for Jones, he may be shite but Lindelof can't even get on the bench. Again doesn't say much for Mourinho's judgement.
He (and the board) fecked up massively over the summer.
Conte had us figured out like Mourinho had Chelsea figured out at Old Trafford last season.
I’m not going to call for a manager to get sacked when we have his record; but I will not be sorry to see him go. fecking disgusting football, week after week except against minnows. And he’s a complete and utter bell end to go with it.
The former three players there left the club two years before Mourinho took over. One of Mourinho's central qualities as a manager is his ability to put together quality defences; we look better at the back because he organises us well there most of the time, but I don't think he's strengthened us that much personnel wise.
Rooney's lack of ability was known back in 2015-16, and if he wasn't good enough and needed replacing then Mourinho should've gotten rid of him when he first arrived. RVP was another who left a year before Mourinho took over, and since Mourinho arrived here he's brought in Zlatan Ibrahimovic and has spent over £70m on Lukaku; again, if we've failed to properly replace RVP then that's on the manager.
Agree with all of that.
Anyway all we can do is hope he starts focusing a bit more on the quality of our attacking play and maybe gets us commiting more numbers forward, or something. Because our 'brand' of football right now looks ancient, worn out and negative.
No plan whatsoever. Whenever we've been losing under José I've never felt like we've had a plan to get back in it. Actually, we've never seemed to have a plan from the get go. No cohesion at all after over a year and all this money spent. He's been shown up again.
The ball won't go in for us at this accursed ground.
Fun fact this Chelsea side got eaten alive by Roma like 5 days ago.
Good against poor teams, sure. When Jones is faced with intelligent opposition he is rash & all over the place. Every single time.
And he is criticizing the fans? Someone ban me temporary from this thread please. I can't stop myself, i'm so mad.
He's a coward and his tactics are outdated.
Some of you are fecking retarded, you lose to Chelsea and suddenly Mourinho should get sacked and every player is shit
He can't buy and sell 12 players in a single window. We're improving. We'll finish higher in the league than we did last season & we'll see some players leave again at the end of the season who aren't good enough. I think the signings of Mkhi & Lindelof do look poor though & they would be Mourinho's fault.
Since that interview with the French media outlet, every performance has been well below par barring Spurs, which we weren't even that great in either.
Must admit I am starting to have my doubts.
Erm, he's saying he's not one to call for his sacking.
Some of you are fecking retarded, you lose to Chelsea and suddenly Mourinho should get sacked and every player is shit
We will never eat a topteam alive, Mou is really pragmatic.
Time to feck off Jose, you ain’t taking this team nowhere.
Not calling for his head yet, he is steadying the ship and that is important. But this man is really not the guy to take us forward long term, we need a modern manager.
Moyes is available!
Mourinho is gash against any half decent team. Says more about him. Jones was absolutely fine. Our defense isn't the problem. It's our attack. Cannot believe how blinded some people are.
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