Jose Mourinho | 2017/18 Assessments | Poll Added

[Hugh Jass]

If we need them to beat Huddersfield, then the problem is Mourinho. Also decision to buy Lindelof over spur's sanchez was his as well. Awful decisions.

Dont agree. It was always a tough match, especially given that we were playing away from home, in a storm and had just come back from Portugal on thursday.

Away from home is always tough under Mourinho. He tries to grind out wins like we did against Southampton. Unfortunately today, Mata made a huge error, which has cost us points. Not Mourinho.

 

[#07]

Nobody new that Lindelof was going to basically feck up badly.

Is there any evidence, at all, to suggest Tuanzebe would do worse than Lindelof? Lindelof has been f'n up since preseason.

I did not watch him much at Benfica. I was told he'd be a good signing. Since he conceded at penalty against Madrid in the U.S. I've been hoping for some evidence of that. Not seen it.

 

[NoLogo]

There is simply one reason that makes it attractive to have Mou at your club. He wins trophies. Not in style but with whatever it takes to win games. I don't expect more from him.

That of course means I expect at least one major trophy in (PL or CL) in three years.

That being said we again saw that the squad still needs some work, especially in the wide areas. It's shocking how little threat we can create over the wings.

 

[Raoul]

The performances of late have definitely reverted back to last season and that is massively worrying. Injuries/missing players give some excuses but not significantly.

The question is, where does it go from here?



Just a reminder of something though. In Van Gaal's second season we were near top in November after a last minute winner against Watford away. And we all know what became of that season. Bit 'glass half empty' way to look at things perhaps but just saying. At least we have a striker like Lukaku this season.

We need Lukaku and Zlatan available at the same time. If Lukaku is not working, then Zlatan came come in and get us a couple of goals. Without that option, we are basically dead in the water when Lukaku is off.

 

[pseudo_canadian]

I'm really curious to know what we actually do in training.

 

[automaticflare]

Both the wingers are always tracking back. Leaves nobody available at the attacking end. We dont make good transitions from defence to attack

That's down to whoever is supposed to play 10
When pogba is out they disappear
Miki mata lingard whoever

 

[automaticflare]

We need Lukaku and Zlatan available at the same time. If Lukaku is not working, then Zlatan came come in and get us a couple of goals. Without that option, we are basically dead in the water when Lukaku is off.

I think zlatan will play as 10
He has composure to play there much better option than miki or mata at moment

 

[goin4glory]

Mourinho inherited a much worse squad than Pep at City including a number of players better than anyone at United I.E Aguero/Silva/KDB etc We've made very clear progress under his management and apart from Lindelof he's been good in the transfer market. The reality is we still have someone absolute dross that're getting minutes because of the injury crisis atm, Smalling/Young/Mata/Lingard etc.

People will point to United's spending over the previous 5 years to slate Mourinho but he isn't responsible for Di Maria/Falcao/Schneiderlin/Mata/Schweinsteiger. Give him the time and backing he needs to compete with City and he'll get the job done as always.

 

[Hawks2008]

Tactical masterclass from the boss today, really proved his superiority over Fraudiola.
fecking end me

 

[sammsky1]

Dont agree. It was always a tough match, especially given that we were playing away from home, in a storm and had just come back from Portugal on thursday.

Away from home is always tough under Mourinho. He tries to grind out wins like we did against Southampton. Unfortunately today, Mata made a huge error, which has cost us points. Not Mourinho.

Agreed. The selected team should have easily enough class to beat a newly promoted team. Herrera and Mata specifically are guilty of not taking control of the game in the first phase - they should have bossed it from the first few minutes. Instead, they were both timid and totally off form; looked almost complacent which is unforgiveable.

Huddersfield looked like they wanted to win more, put in more yards and effort - that should be 100% unacceptable for Manchester United.

 

[goin4glory]

Tactical masterclass from the boss today, really proved his superiority over Fraudiola.
fecking end me

I'm sure Pep would be dominating games with Lingard/Smalling/Young and Mata.

 

[Offside]

He’s going to park the bus v Spurs. Pray he doesn’t. We need a result.

 

[redNATION]

Mourinho inherited a much worse squad than Pep at City including a number of players better than anyone at United I.E Aguero/Silva/KDB etc We've made very clear progress under his management and apart from Lindelof he's been good in the transfer market. The reality is we still have someone absolute dross that're getting minutes because of the injury crisis atm, Smalling/Young/Mata/Lingard etc.

People will point to United's spending over the previous 5 years to slate Mourinho but he isn't responsible for Di Maria/Falcao/Schneiderlin/Mata/Schweinsteiger. Give him the time and backing he needs to compete with City and he'll get the job done as always.

Jose would never play a team full of midgets like those players, he sold KDB. He can't play free-flowing attacking football, he needs physical players, either fast or big, to make it work. Pep's just made the most of what he's got, he's even getting decent performances from Yaya still.

 

[sammsky1]

Tactical masterclass from the boss today, really proved his superiority over Fraudiola.
fecking end me

what did he do wrong? Almsot everyone was very happy with his team selecation and formation. He also made urgent substitutions as well as sent Smalling up front for last 10 mins.

His team's performence was gash - they have to carry the responsibility fopr this debacle.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

That's down to whoever is supposed to play 10
When pogba is out they disappear
Miki mata lingard whoever

Disagree with this. The #10 distributes the ball to the speeding wingers who detract chasing CBs which allows the striker to take position. Since our wingers are busy defending, no chance of that happening and hence we don't see us counter attacking properly.

 

[goin4glory]

Jose would never play a team full of midgets like those players, he sold KDB. He can't play free-flowing attacking football, he needs physical players, either fast or big, to make it work. Pep's just made the most of what he's got, he's even getting decent performances from Yaya still.

Yes because Mourinho didn't sign Modric/Carvalho or play Deco/Sneijder.

Pep has had the best team in every league he's managed and outspent everyone since he arrived in England.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

He’s going to park the bus v Spurs. Pray he doesn’t. We need a result.

Guess we all know whats going to happen. Prayers wont help much.

 

[Ace of Spades]

You can't blame only the players, when all of the team struggles. If one or two players are playing poorly then that is down to them, if the entire team struggles then the manager should be questioned.

The tactics still look like we are playing with Fellaini or Zlatan in the team, no cohesion and always opting for a long ball whenever there is even a little pressure.

 

[IhabX7]

We're losing 2-0 to a nothing team at halftime, why substitute like for like? we were in dire need to force the game. Keep Martial on and take out someone else.

 

[Minimalist]

I'm really curious to know what we actually do in training.

Is this last season? This was posted so many times last time.

 

[MDFC Manager]

He’s going to park the bus v Spurs. Pray he doesn’t. We need a result.

You can pray to whichever fecking deity you want. It's not gonna help.

 

[sammsky1]

Dont agree. It was always a tough match, especially given that we were playing away from home, in a storm and had just come back from Portugal on thursday.

Away from home is always tough under Mourinho. He tries to grind out wins like we did against Southampton. Unfortunately today, Mata made a huge error, which has cost us points. Not Mourinho.

pathetic excuse for a club that has champion aspirations. Squad should be prepared and capable for all conditions and situations.

 

[Minimalist]

3 shots on target.

Yeah.

 

[Godfather]

Starting to piss me off a bit. Our players look like they have no idea what to do in the final third again. No movement, no passing, no creativity. Some of it is certainly down to still fielding players like lindegard that are obviously not good enough but sometimes we look like were are not working on our attacking game at all.

 

[NK86]

We need Lukaku and Zlatan available at the same time. If Lukaku is not working, then Zlatan came come in and get us a couple of goals. Without that option, we are basically dead in the water when Lukaku is off.

We need Zlatan back immediately. If not for anything else, he will be a better #10 than all our other options currently. Mkhi has been atrocious while Lingard is not a United level player.

 

[BigCaine]

I'm sure Pep would be dominating games with Lingard/Smalling/Young and Mata.

Don't think pep would only play 1 of martial or rashford each game. Also don't city have Fabian delph playing lb.

 

[Raoul]

We need Zlatan back immediately. If not for anything else, he will be a better #10 than all our other options currently. Mkhi has been atrocious while Lingard is not a United level player.

Yep. Look at Chelsea today. Morata was off and Conte brings on Batshuayi who promptly gets them 3 points.

 

[Kush]

We played 1 of better games under his reign at home to Spurs last season and that was when we were languishing in mid-table, people on here love a certain narrative. Scoreline was only 1-0 that day but we should've beaten them by a lot more. I expect us to play attacking vs them.

My fear is game away to Chelsea, our record there is shocking so he'll probably only go there looking for a point.

Pep's just made the most of what he's got, he's even getting decent performances from Yaya still.

Yaya has played a total of 29' across all competitions for Pep this season but yeah carry on

 

[NK86]

Mourinho saying in the post match he's not going to be critical of his players to the interviewer, but that he's going to be critical with them personally, and looked absolutely fecking livid.

He should start by looking at the guy in the mirror.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Yes because Mourinho didn't sign Modric/Carvalho or play Deco/Sneijder.

Pep has had the best team in every league he's managed and outspent everyone since he arrived in England.

Mourinho has also spent an absurd amount with United. He has no reason to complain whatsoever.

As for this thread, we started the season superbly but the last couple of weeks have been poor. And it's evident that we still have to prove that we are genuine title challengers despite the good early form.

 

[Minimalist]

Mourinho has also spent an absurd amount with United. He has no reason to complain whatsoever.

As for this thread, we started the season superbly but the last couple of weeks have been poor. And it's evident that we still have to prove that we are genuine title challengers despite the good early form.

If people genuinely start going down that route...

Mourinho has had enough time to bring in his key men.

 

[Ludens the Red]

I'd like to see us try Rashford and Martial. I don't get why he's so against it, he's happy to play Lingard and Mkhitaryian at number 10 and Mata wide right, no matter how many times all three of them do nothing and contribute nothing, there's this total refusal to play either Rashford or Martial right and I don't really understand it.
At the moment, we're essentially attacking with a LW and CF because whoever our AMC or AMR is, is complete and utter dog shit. I'd rather see a back three and wing backs if only to stop us playing games with Lingard/Mata and Mkhitaryian as our *10 and *7 options.

 

[Fahad Jawaid]

I think at the end of the day the blame goes to him for not signing in our weak areas. Did he think the likes of Mata,Miki and Lingard will become Isco, Ronaldo and Bale? Lukaka and Matic have been fantastic signings but not signing any fullbacks and not improving our wing options and N10 has come back to haunt us back big time. Signing Lindelof was a terrible decision aswell, not only because he looks shit and our Lovren, but we didn't need any CB. When we will have Rojo and Bailly back he will be behind those two plus Smalling and Jones aswell, Infact i would say Blind and Tuenzebe would look more physically ready then him. City went out identified players and bought them. Signing Perisic would have made no difference either. We don't need any more average players, we need actual quality players

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Mourinho saying in the post match he's not going to be critical of his players to the interviewer, but that he's going to be critical with them personally, and looked absolutely fecking livid.

I'd put the microscope on him and ask why his United team played such nothing football.

We need them irrespective of the opposition.

If we do then that's a problem. Title winning teams win games without their best players. It's the reason you have a squad.

 

[Kapardin]

I think at the end of the day the blame goes to him for not signing in our weak areas. Did he think the likes of Mata,Miki and Lingard will become Isco, Ronaldo and Bale? Lukaka and Matic have been fantastic signings but not signing any fullbacks and not improving our wing options and N10 has come back to haunt us back big time. Signing Lindelof was a terrible decision aswell, not only because he looks shit and our Lovren, but we didn't need any CB. When we will have Rojo and Bailly back he will be behind those two plus Smalling and Jones aswell, Infact i would say Blind and Tuenzebe would look more physically ready then him. City went out identified players and bought them. Signing Perisic would have made no difference either. We don't need any more average players, we need actual quality players

I am wondering if its' the Glazers. Woodward did not spend 50 mil on Perisic. Maybe Mourinho wasn't given the cash after he spent 150 mil.

If so, it is pathetic. We needed a clear out like City after 3 years of mediocrity. We still haven't recovered from the Depay-Darmian-Schneiderlin-Schweinsteiger disasterclass of a transfer window.

 

[goin4glory]

Don't think pep would only play 1 of martial or rashford each game. Also don't city have Fabian delph playing lb.

They both play the same position. Unless you wanna take Lukaku out of the side. Did you bother to read my post? Pep inherited a clearly better side than Mourinho did and has outspent him since he arrived. Delph is playing because a 50m fullback is inured.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

If people genuinely start going down that route...

Mourinho has had enough time to bring in his key men.

Of course he has. It was the defender he signed who had a clown moment today. We need to hold Jose accountable in the same way that every manager is.

 

[Isotope]

Yes because Mourinho didn't sign Modric/Carvalho or play Deco/Sneijder.

Pep has had the best team in every league he's managed and outspent everyone since he arrived in England.

Explain then why he kept Lingard, and subbed Mata and Martial when we were 2-0 down?

 

[goin4glory]

Mourinho has also spent an absurd amount with United. He has no reason to complain whatsoever.

As for this thread, we started the season superbly but the last couple of weeks have been poor. And it's evident that we still have to prove that we are genuine title challengers despite the good early form.

Mourinho had a far inferior squad. There's a reason we had finished 7th/4th/5th the previous 3 seasons while City were winning titles. Pep inherited players who're better than anyone even in the current United squad i.e Aguero/Silva/KDB.

 

[Minimalist]

Mourinho had a far inferior squad. There's a reason we had finished 7th/4th/5th the previous 3 seasons while City were winning titles. Pep inherited players who're better than anyone even in the current United squad i.e Aguero/Silva/KDB.

City won the title once in that time. In 2014. Two seasons before Pep arrived.