There's so much wrong with this post. Mourinho himself would tell you to have a word with yourself.
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The only thing wrong with Jose is he isn't being enough Jose. Be more Jose.....the wry smiles...the fingers on lips....the triple subs while doing a moon walk along the touchline....I love that nutcracker so much I hope he finds himself again. Every girl I worked with started taking an interest in football when Jose came to England. He was the tabloid dream. I firmly believe this is the only club on the planet which will let him build a lasting footprint. If he wins the big trophies he'll be able to stay as long as he wants and if he goes through lean spells it will be accepted...whether the fans like it or not providing he builds up some credit in the bank. If he walks away from this club or he doesn't make the grade whilst Pep cleans up.....his reputation won't recover no matter how many other clubs he's goes onto manage and how many CLs he manages to accumulate with them.
I honestly don’t get what this meltdown is from some of our fans. At the end of the day it looks like we will finish with a decent points total. Are we assuming the premier league has suddenly got much easier this year or is it more likely city are having a freak year?
Also as far as I am concerned Jose is the Manchester United manager till he leaves I will back what he believes is best and honestly I would rather boring pragmatic football with results than exciting attacking football and finishing lower. The fact is the squad he inherited was terrible let’s not pretend otherwise.
I do wonder what a lot of the people hating on Mourinho would have said about arsenal back when they played beautiful football but finished 4th year in year out were they better than the pragmatic Chelsea? Better yet when Fergie was happy with a 1-0 were that same 4th placed arsenal better than us?
Also as far as I am concerned Jose is the Manchester United manager till he leaves I will back what he believes is best and honestly I would rather boring pragmatic football with results than exciting attacking football and finishing lower. The fact is the squad he inherited was terrible let’s not pretend otherwise.
I do wonder what a lot of the people hating on Mourinho would have said about arsenal back when they played beautiful football but finished 4th year in year out were they better than the pragmatic Chelsea? Better yet when Fergie was happy with a 1-0 were that same 4th placed arsenal better than us?
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The meltdown here and backtracking is going to be something special when United win the title next season.
Quote me on it.
Quote me on it.
That pragmatic Chelsea side pissed all over the league and won two successive league titles. This United one might manage a respectable second place finish while being miles off the title. We're doing alright under Jose but the comparison to his Chelsea side doesn't work, because it implies because are solely unhappy with the style; what they're mostly unhappy with is that the style isn't all that exciting but hasn't managed to get us anywhere near to winning the title again yet.
The hypocrisy when many here says they defended moyes sitting on 6th because they're the manager of united until he's sacked but wanted jose sacked.
I seriously doubt that there's a significant amount of people who wanted to give Moyes more time but want Mourinho gone now. Those people who are not pleased with Mourinho were probably even more pissed off with Moyes' ineptitude.
I don't make that up.
Go dig moyes thread, and for jose... well look at his assessment thread where 30% want him gone.
PS: It's literally up there. 27% want him gone
Erm... no we can't? You're talking as if we never lose.
I get that 27% want him gone. But that does not prove that the same people wanted to give Moyes more time.
8 losses in 46 ain't bad. Moyes lost 15 in 51 and van Gaal 24 in 103 in their tenures.
Yeah, I agree, but it was still a really odd post.
I sort of agree with the post. I used to fear we'd lose every game during the Moyes era and, in van Gaals second season, it was fears of drawing 0-0 every game.
I think fear comes mostly from uncertainty. There was nothing to fear during Van Gaal's second season. Fear was replaced by a cold, harsh certainty of inevitable failure.
We still managed to rack up some embarrassing losses during that season - WBA, Southampton, Norwich, Sunderland, Bournemouth etc.
More like utter apathy. Win/lose, neither could stir an emotion because it was so horrifically dull to watch. Moyes was over quickly and was much more random but at least he provided some comedy, that Fulham crossing game is a night of legend.
What i meant was with moyes we always have a feeling it'll be an ugly massacre whenever we meet the big boys, anything else is a bonus. Even losing 1-0 make us breath a relieve.
With lvg it wont matter after christmas as there's nothing to play for, and we all can predict how the match will end. 1-2 shots in target and it'll be a boring 0-0 or a close 1-0 either way.
With jose at least we dont have to feel inferior meeting the big boys and at least have some believe that jose will more often than not set us up to sucker punch them no matter how ugly it looks. And yes, sevilla happens, but honestly tomorrow game meeting city I'm still confident we won't be outplayed and there's at least a 5050 chance to win the game.
Seems like he was right to drop Pogba...
Why? Agents are in constant contact with dozens of different clubs for their clients.
The way things have gone, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that if the relationship between Jose and Pogba has completely broken down it may mean that Pogba will have to be sold. Sounding out other clubs is part and parcel of an agents role.
Yes because sounding out players to your local rivals is totally normal.
A simple "it won't be the end of the world" would have sufficed. But like he did after the defeat to Sevilla, he had to remind us of his past achievement AGAINST US!
A simple "it won't be the end of the world" would have sufficed. But like he did after the defeat to Sevilla, he had to remind us of his past achievement AGAINST US!
Yeah that line would have just the same punch wouldn't it?
A simple "it won't be the end of the world" would have sufficed. But like he did after the defeat to Sevilla, he had to remind us of his past achievement AGAINST US!
It's like hes alienating himself from the club more and more and prepping everyone that we'll lose. Of course it's the likely result, but if there were ever better conditions for him to get a result away to Pep, it's now. Them preoccupied with the CL, us delaying them from winning the PL... hope he can pull something out of nothing
A simple "it won't be the end of the world" would have sufficed. But like he did after the defeat to Sevilla, he had to remind us of his past achievement AGAINST US!
I don't see anything wrong with that. Whats wrong with providing an example to back up his point?
No point in getting worked up about such inane stuff.
Well said. Mourinho will have to change his strategy and play the kind of football that the fans love. Have a Go..
We were utterly and absolutely outplayed by City at Old Trafford so I'm not sure where that confidence comes from but I take your point otherwise.
I don't think we were to be honest. We were a bit too cowardly in our outlook but there wasn't much between the two teams in that game.
A simple "it won't be the end of the world" would have sufficed. But like he did after the defeat to Sevilla, he had to remind us of his past achievement AGAINST US!
There's nothing wrong with what he said. It's a good example of United bouncing back. They humiliated us then we won the title back the following season.
Makes more sense than the last one, actually.
It's twice now, though, which people obviously won't ignore.
It's twice now, though, which people obviously won't ignore.
We really weren't. City outplayed Arsenal (×2), Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea (x2), not us. The fact that we gifted them two goals and were inches away from an equaliser would demonstrate otherwise.
The comment after the Sevilla game was a little confusing and unwarranted. Where I sit, I took no offence as others in our fan base did. This comment is in no way offensive. Its clear as day what he is saying and I think the message is that United have been in this position before (and came out stronger by winning three leagues in a row), so even if we lose tomorrow, it doesnt matter.
Yeah, I agree with that.
He was asked about them potentially clinching the title against us, so I have no issue with the reply as such. What he's saying is essentially that we could bounce back from it in the same way we did back then - which is a positive message.
At 45% backing, Jose has slightly went up from 43.5%. After the game today I would expect a bigger change, in either side.
The key is how he says it. Hes always keen on separating himself and saying how he did this or that before, how he won it against United. Alienating himself basically. What he should just say is we'll bounce back. United bounced back before, we'll do it again. Keep a united front. Makes a big difference. But with him he always needs to make a point how it's always about him.
Sure, yes.
But in this particular instance it's actually hard to make the point without including himself - he could've chosen Arsenal as an example instead, but ffs the man ain't St Francis of Assisi, he's a legendary cnut.
The Sevilla thing was highly dubious with regard to what you're implying, this really isn't (in itself). The point is clear and it's made in direct response to a question.
They outplayed us. More possession, more shots, more and better chances, more goals. No need to deny it.
Give it a rest dude, you will find a lot of annoying meaningless nonsense in here, always aimed at our manager from our own fans.
Sorry, don't agree.
I glimpsed at the poll and was shocked at the poor approval rating but...after reading it properly , it's really not that bad. At the moment, 72.6% of the Redcafe population believes that Mourinho deserves more time...and/or money.
I agree. At least another season and I expect a major trophy (League Title or Champions League).
, it's really not that bad. At the moment, 72.6% of the Redcafe population believes that Mourinho deserves more time...and/or money.I agree. At least another season and I expect a major trophy (League Title or Champions League).
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