Well are we going to be back in for Perisic next year? No. So who’s the second option. You always have a second and third options just like we did with Morata.
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Well are we going to be back in for Perisic next year? No. So who’s the second option. You always have a second and third options just like we did with Morata.
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I think we need better CBs, but much of our problems will be solved if we create more and score more. We need atleast 4 new attackers on the wings, #10 and midfield. Then, even if we go 2 behind, we can always hope to score more.
Then, we need to upgrade the CBs. As we are not City, everything cannot be done in one season. Focus on attack and midfield this summer, then CBs the next.
For those wanting Jose out, first we need to see that the players have been letting us down for 4 years. Someone needs to be given the authority to cull the squad and bring in quality, and for that, we need stability.
For those touting second place as the judgement criteria...I'd wager a fair amount we'll no longer be there by Feb
Oh for sure. There's a few already writing it up in prep
Maybe there was no quality alternative. We dont want to end up with more average players.
The lack of any cohesion in our attacking play is blatantly obvious, so many players are dithering on the ball, not sure of the next move and where their teammates actually are. The lack of cohesion should not be just blamed on players.
This game clearly see Mourinho has no method to attack. Like watching Moyes team load of crosses and the player movement were not well coached by manager.
I don’t think the player should be blame apart from Rojo. Mourinho should takes full responsibility if we lose.
I don’t think the player should be blame apart from Rojo. Mourinho should takes full responsibility if we lose.
Indeed, right now it's 'he doesn't play great football but he's got us in 2nd'. Not sure what that changes to if we drop a few spots.
Thank you, and besides, I won't trust him with any big signings if he can't utilize what he have at hand to their potential.
Really poor today. Most depressing thing is this is usually Mourinho's best time at a club, it will only get worse next year.
How does he think playing rom and ibra together is a good idea?
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It all goes through Hazard but he isn't a goalscorer and Morata isn't lethal enough to cover for him. He's looking like a good striker but not a great one.
They miss far too many chances, they'll start focusing on cups and drop their intensity imo
It all goes through Hazard but he isn't a goalscorer and Morata isn't lethal enough to cover for him. He's looking like a good striker but not a great one.
They miss far too many chances, they'll start focusing on cups and drop their intensity imo
We're shite for a long long time.
Scraping results against other shite teams.
His football is dull lifeless and predictable.
No dynamism at all and being terrified of other top 6 teams is unforgivable.
City played us off the park. We did a smash and grab on arsenal. Scraped a win v spurs.
Shit the pants at Anfield.
We are a mid table team getting mid table results from mid table performances.
Too many passengers. Jose out. Fresh start needed. We'll never win the title under Jose.
Miserable bollox like him.
Almost picked a perfect team except for some how picking Ibra & Rashford instead of Martial, Mkhi, or even Lingard. Apparently if you perform worse every week your odds of starting a game increase. I'd really like to see Martial with a proper FB like Shaw. If Ibra continues to suck and he doesn't sub him out, in my opinion that puts Mourinho in LVG territory for me.
Also we've been conceding left and right with balls into the box for a few games in a row. How are we so bad with our height?
Also we've been conceding left and right with balls into the box for a few games in a row. How are we so bad with our height?
Troubling thing is that when results go south, he doesn't handle it emotionally and things spiral out.
I feel we need a new younger manager, one that can get us playing modern attacking passing football, because this is atrocious.
People will try to point out ‘we’re 2nd’ or ‘we’re in the knockouts of the CL’ but that should be bare minimum.
No one can truly enjoy this type of football, where we back off teams and let them have the ball.
The team is unbalanced and there is no plan in place. In terms of passing, moving and attacking we are light years behind a lot of teams and I just don’t think Mourinho is capable of delivering that.
People will try to point out ‘we’re 2nd’ or ‘we’re in the knockouts of the CL’ but that should be bare minimum.
No one can truly enjoy this type of football, where we back off teams and let them have the ball.
The team is unbalanced and there is no plan in place. In terms of passing, moving and attacking we are light years behind a lot of teams and I just don’t think Mourinho is capable of delivering that.
Looks that way alright bar a miracle we score 3 goals.
2nd, 3rd, 4th, what difference does it make?
Hopefully turns this around but this kind of performance worries me. It also worried me how unmotivated United were after the City defeat. Mourinho is responsible for how to team goes about their business.
I really struggle with the narrative that the Antoine Griezmanns of this world will sort us out and make United a great attacking team.
I really struggle with the narrative that the Antoine Griezmanns of this world will sort us out and make United a great attacking team.
I can't quite remember, but I believe I saw a stat earlier in the year that Jose has never turned around a 2-0 at half time. Does that sound right? Recall it being something like that, and being amazed given his career.
I think the fact that we're among the teams in the PL that covers the least distance per game is a massive red flag. Sure you can argue that it conserves energy but the other top teams still cover far more ground than we do, and we still get shit loads of injuries anyway.
Yeah I dont disagree with that. Then again Jose would argue that this suits his defense centric philosophy most.
I personally wish we had a tactical set up that focused on attacking football and playing with a swagger and proper intensity. Obviously, one could argue that we'd be worse off results wise but I'd prefer it. Klopp football, a little toned down, with our level of spending? That would be something. But anyway, we have what we have and I hope it ends up proving better than what others do.
Good question, I can't even remember this happening.
We have loads of money. A good manager changes a lot
He needs to improve our attacking play no question about it. It's not just players.
Last season: Boro H (2-1), Blackburn A (2-1)
This season: Newcastle H (4-1), CSKA H (2-1)
Remove Zlatan and we seem a better threat. Not great, but atleast functional and look capable of scoring.
Jose really, really fecked up by starting Ibra. Defense was only 50% of the problem.
Jose really, really fecked up by starting Ibra. Defense was only 50% of the problem.
Crosschester United.
Problems with Jose Mourinho's reign here is a few things
1 he did not show a ruthless aggression is not only cutting the head off of Moyes and VG's legacy with some of the signings, but persisted with them to the point he wanted to prove them wrong, like a terrible siege mentality
2 signings in some area's not working out, or did not sign enough players with no plan B, and plan A on one or two signings was not exactly inspiring.
3 style of play and maybe coaching seems to really have been a problem
4 club's transfer record since summer 2009, poor planning after fergie left
You put this altogether, and players mentality still feels like a team of losers when things get tough, and we will keep having the same results until we see a ruthless streak in our managers etc
1 he did not show a ruthless aggression is not only cutting the head off of Moyes and VG's legacy with some of the signings, but persisted with them to the point he wanted to prove them wrong, like a terrible siege mentality
2 signings in some area's not working out, or did not sign enough players with no plan B, and plan A on one or two signings was not exactly inspiring.
3 style of play and maybe coaching seems to really have been a problem
4 club's transfer record since summer 2009, poor planning after fergie left
You put this altogether, and players mentality still feels like a team of losers when things get tough, and we will keep having the same results until we see a ruthless streak in our managers etc
Proper Moyes football at the moment.
I honestly don’t think he has the same hunger he once did.
Almost as if Jose builds his squad based on a foundation of desire and tries to add technique to their game.
Whereas Pep builds the squad on the foundations of technique and tries to add desire to them.
I want some pure technique based talented footballers at our club. 'hard working' doesn't cut it anymore IMO.
Whereas Pep builds the squad on the foundations of technique and tries to add desire to them.
I want some pure technique based talented footballers at our club. 'hard working' doesn't cut it anymore IMO.
Spot on. Especially point 1. However, 3 is not entirely on him, some of our players seem incurable.
2-2 Fulhamesque...
As someone put it nicely in the match thread, it feels like a bunch of individuals on the pitch. Even when we were winning 4-0 every game we still didn't look as good as a team as the scoreline suggested.
That comes back to point 1, so really point 1 and 3 seem to be well are linked has one, but? martial and rashford seem to be going backwards under Jose, you could easily play a front 3 with these 2 in the attack
I would say Martial has never hit the heights of his first season. He is just...stagnant. Rashford, I never rated unlike the rest on this forum, so I cannot give an opinion on him in that context.
I think he needs to address our issue of conceding from crosses / freekicks from wide positions and corners. Basically, any delivery from the flanks.
Just look at the goals weve conceded in the league:
Stoke- cross and a corner
Huddersfield 2x Individual errors
Chelsea- cross from deep
Newcastle - cross
Watford- Penalty, Barrage of attacks
Arsenal- Barrage of attacks
City- corner, freekick from wide
WBA- Corner
Leicester- Counter, cross from deep
Today- set piece from out wide, FK
Just look at the goals weve conceded in the league:
Stoke- cross and a corner
Huddersfield 2x Individual errors
Chelsea- cross from deep
Newcastle - cross
Watford- Penalty, Barrage of attacks
Arsenal- Barrage of attacks
City- corner, freekick from wide
WBA- Corner
Leicester- Counter, cross from deep
Today- set piece from out wide, FK
Would not surprise if Mourinho resigned but he cannot vouch for such numbers of poor quality at the club that he inherited, he his the right man for the job and needs 100 percent backing as opposed to 75 percent backing which lets be honest thats what he got from woodward last summer!!
I hope he leaves at the end of the season.
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