Jose Mourinho | 2017/18 Assessments | Poll Added

[Canagel]

• 2nd place is the first of the losers. I'm happy we are being criticised in the media because it shows that the expectations are higher here than for example Tottenham. Big clubs like Madrid have sacked managers who finished 2nd. Obviously I'm not saying Mourinho needs to go but it's obvious that this season is pretty much a write off in terms of a title challenge and he needs to prepare a massive clear out in the summer. I see some similarities between City last season and our season now. They had similar results to what we are getting now and they were especially weak in the FB areas which is exactly what we have now. It's crucial there are upgrades in the wide areas and another top quality CM maybe even two are added as well. Herrera, Fellaini, Blind, Darmian, Mkhi, and one of Jones or Smalling should all go. Carrick will retire and Zlatan probably won't stay either. A RW is very important as well. That's a LB, CM, RW and a 10. If possible a back up RB to Valencia wouldn't be bad with a view to eventually taking that position. I feel that Jose has been unfairly critisized for holding the team back but the reality is what the team is showing now is the best they can do and we need better players to adapt to his style. Just compare our team to his old teams. Would Smalling play ahead of Ramos? Does Mkhi get in ahead of Sneidjer? Is Rashford on the level of Robben? His best teams were absolutely deadly on the counter but we don't have that ruthless streak yet to compete with the biggest teams in the world. There is a strong core group of De Gea, Bailly, Matic, Pogba and Lukaku but the current squad doesn't have his imprint on it yet and it's still far away from having the identity associated with a Mourinho side.

 

[Water Melon]

So you think we were better off last season at this point?

Is it an answer to my question? To make it clear and avoid going in circles, this is my opinion of Jose's time with United:
Jose has not challenged for a title properly yet. Last season the league was over for us early, same this season. Last season we did not even get into top 4, and once we were out of it we concentrated on Europa League. We failed to get into top 4 first, and then concentrated only on EL.
Jose's contract is for 3 years, so he basically has only next season to win a major trophy. The gap in quality between us and City is growing imo. I am yet to see anything from Jose suggesting that he will be able to beat City in the long run of the next season. So, if after 3 years we would not have won a CL or EPL having spent half a billion, then I'd consider it a failure. If we win one major trophy, then he will have done a decent job, like, say Conte.

 

[Roeindo]

I prefer pep spending than jose for sure.

Watching city is really pleasing in the eye, even in the big game where they travelled to stamford bridge and to us.

Under jose when we faced the big teams we played like burnleys or even stoke city. We played long balls and wait for the counter attacks. We seems affraid to take the initiative and play football. I think thats why player with technical abilities like de bruyne, salah or even hazard suffer under his managerial.

Its a surprise that its jose 2nd season here and yet he failed to address the weakness of his team.

 

[Stacks]

They still spent big money. Sterling, Otamendi and de Bruyne were good enough to compete at the top. Players like Depay and Schneiderlin weren't. Pep even had Aguero and Silva available to him from signings made way back. Pep has had an advantage.

Otamendi? is he better than our CBs? when he arrived he certainly wasn't. We have defenders who can compete at the top too. Sterling was performing lower than Martial when Pep arrived. It was clear who was the star in the making at the time. If Sterling played for us, he would be no better than for England. I doubt he would be solid at a side like Madrid too.

 

[Kapardin]

Otamendi? is he better than our CBs? when he arrived he certainly wasn't. We have defenders who can compete at the top too. Sterling was performing lower than Martial when Pep arrived. It was clear who was the star in the making at the time. If Sterling played for us, he would be no better than for England. I doubt he would be solid at a side like Madrid too.

Yes, we have established that Pep is a good coach who gets the best out of players, but those players had talent to begin with. Neither Sterling nor Otamendi were the level of Blind, Schneiderlin, Memphis, Darmian, etc.

Sterling had a lot of pace and was always tricky for the opposition prior to Pep. However, he was a headless chicken with horrendous finishing. Otamendi actually had been playing very well in La Liga, but his performances dipped when he joined City. Pep simply coached both of them properly and brought out their talent.

It means, City bought well and had a good squad, better than ours, but they lacked a competent coach until Pep arrived.

 

[JohnnyLaw]

This is contradictory. On the one hand you are saying Pep didn't sign many, on the other you are saying it wasn't a strong team. So basically Pep elevated them to god-mode magically?

The truth is, Pep inherited a strong team with underperforming stars and a weakness in defense. He bought a lot of players, motivated the likes of Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne, Otamendi and Fernandinho and coached the already talented players like Sterling to realize their potential. When he made mistakes (Nolito and Bravo), he was given enough cash to rectify it.

Under such conditions, most managers who are already elite will be successful. Pep inherited a good team with weaknesses and was allowed to bring in whoever he wanted to eliminate the weaknesses.

Nobody ever thought Aguero was just a crock as he was still figuring fairly regularly per season for City, despite having injury problems. And I'd like to know who branded Silva as over the hill, first time I'm hearing it.

Pep is doing well, but there is no need to exaggerate.

It's not contradictory, I never said that it wasn't a good team he inherited but there were issues with it, just like there were issues with the team that Mourinho inherited. Some argue however that the main reason that Pep is ahead of Mourinho at the moment is that he's grossly outspent him, but that's a hollow argument. Yes he's brought in alot of players but Stones. Is not playing, Mendy is not playing, Silva is not playing, Gündogan has barely featured at all, Danilo is not playing with even Delph getting in ahead of him, Jesus is rotated. When you look at that very little of their investment is actually on the field, making the difference for them today. Pep has been capable to elevate the players he inherited in a way which Mourinho hasn't, and I think we should be able to be honset about that.

 

[Kapardin]

It's not contradictory, I never said that it wasn't a good team he inherited but there were issues with it, just like there were issues with the team that Mourinho inherited. Some argue however that the main reason that Pep is ahead of Mourinho at the moment is that he's grossly outspent him, but that's a hollow argument. Yes he's brought in alot of players but Stones. Is not playing, Mendy is not playing, Silva is not playing, Gündogan has barely featured at all, Danilo is not playing with even Delph getting in ahead of him, Jesus is rotated. When you look at that very little of their investment is actually on the field, making the difference for them today. Pep has been capable to elevate the players he inherited in a way which Mourinho hasn't, and I think we should be able to be honset about that.

Our team had more than just issues. We had no midfield at all, we signed a bunch of underwhelming defenders and attackers and basically were stuck with the loyalists from the Fergie era like Young and Valencia (who in fairness, have been solid but not up to the highest level). We are still dependent on Fellaini when Pogba is not there, ffs.

That City squad is very good both in terms of starting XI and in depth. The core that Mancini bought is still servicing them, then the club bought the likes of Sterling, de Bruyne, Otamendi and Pep added his own buys to it. That is why even if you take out Sane, Silva etc, someone else is there to step into their shoes and perform just as well.

 

[mav_9me]

This. We played really well yesterday, even with the ridiculous missed chances. People still forget that we have one of the best point totals to start a Prem season, it just doesn't look very good because City have gone nuclear and are playing at a historically great level.

We're fine.

While I agree we're relatively fine, you are wrong about one of the best point totals.

See:

 

[Water Melon]

While I agree we're relatively fine, you are wrong about one of the best point totals.

See:

Some insight there. Thanks mate.

 

[haram]

Otamendi? is he better than our CBs? when he arrived he certainly wasn't. We have defenders who can compete at the top too. Sterling was performing lower than Martial when Pep arrived. It was clear who was the star in the making at the time. If Sterling played for us, he would be no better than for England. I doubt he would be solid at a side like Madrid too.

Well our defence is keeping up with City's even when considering injuries for both sides.

Why is this Sterling vs Martial? We are talking about the whole team here. Sterling had already fought for the title at liverpool as well. I am not even arguing over the signing of £50 million top talent Martial. People forget De Bruyne, Sterling, Otamendi, Aguero, Silva were already at City and were capable of competing at the top already. Mourinho came in and who did we have? De Gea and Martial? We had to go out and sign Pogba and Lukaku. Pep already had Aguero and de Bruyne. Pep's transfer spending doesn't have to account for two massive players.

There is a much bigger transition Mourinho is in charge of here at United. Lukaku is replacing Rooney & RVP. Pogba and Matic are replacing Scholes and Carrick after all these years. Lukaku and Pogba are a huge portion of our spending under Mourinho.

 

[Stacks]

Yes, we have established that Pep is a good coach who gets the best out of players, but those players had talent to begin with. Neither Sterling nor Otamendi were the level of Blind, Schneiderlin, Memphis, Darmian, etc.

Sterling had a lot of pace and was always tricky for the opposition prior to Pep. However, he was a headless chicken with horrendous finishing. Otamendi actually had been playing very well in La Liga, but his performances dipped when he joined City. Pep simply coached both of them properly and brought out their talent.

It means, City bought well and had a good squad, better than ours, but they lacked a competent coach until Pep arrived.

You make fair points tbf and I believe those players are not certified regulars in our team and we have better options when Jose arrived.

 

[Kostov]

You can check Jose's career it is full of wins and bitter losses. Van Gaal used to be one hell of a manager and then lost it, same applies to many others. Jose was the special one but this time at United he has not shown it for 2 seasons. Zizou did better at Real than Jose did, Conte won the league with Chelsea, while Jose left it with 1 point above relegation zone at that time. At United Jose does not seem to be Special, it is up to him.to show it again. He cant rest on his laurels, no manager can, including Pep, Zizu and others. Fecking Luis Enrique was fired after winning a treble, Zizu's position is under no guarantee despite managing to achieve something that has not bern achieved by anyone in the modern era. Jose is supposed to be up there amoung the cream of very small top managers pool, we will see if he is still there at the end of his third season, or is he at the level of Poch, Wenger etc. If he does not win the league next season, I'll say that both Conte and Pep will have done a better job.

You can say the same about every manager out there, everybody has had ups and downs. Most of them do not come close to what Jose has achieved. Zizou did a better job than Jose, yes but if that is a stick to beat Jose you can use it against anyone in football not even Pep won back to back CL titles. And as a matter of fact Real has won 2 La Liga titles in 10 years , one of them is with Jose in a time Pep was at Barca, and before him they have spent something like 1billion euros and couldn't pass the 1/8 finals. Jose did well at Real people just need more perspective. Conte won the PL this last summer he has spent more money than Jose and how far is he behind Pep?

 

[Kostov]

Well our defence is keeping up with City's even when considering injuries for both sides.

Why is this Sterling vs Martial? We are talking about the whole team here. Sterling had already fought for the title at liverpool as well. I am not even arguing over the signing of £50 million top talent Martial. People forget De Bruyne, Sterling, Otamendi, Aguero, Silva were already at City and were capable of competing at the top already. Mourinho came in and who did we have? De Gea and Martial? We had to go out and sign Pogba and Lukaku. Pep already had Aguero and de Bruyne. Pep's transfer spending doesn't have to account for two massive players.

There is a much bigger transition Mourinho is in charge of here at United. Lukaku is replacing Rooney & RVP. Pogba and Matic are replacing Scholes and Carrick after all these years. Lukaku and Pogba are a huge portion of our spending under Mourinho.

Spot on.

 

[Water Melon]

You can say the same about every manager out there, everybody has had ups and downs. Most of them do not come close to what Jose has achieved. Zizou did a better job than Jose, yes but if that is a stick to beat Jose you can use it against anyone in football not even Pep won back to back CL titles. And as a matter of fact Real has won 2 La Liga titles in 10 years , one of them is with Jose in a time Pep was at Barca, and before him they have spent something like 1billion euros and couldn't pass the 1/8 finals. Jose did well at Real people just need more perspective. Conte won the PL this last summer he has spent more money than Jose and how far is he behind Pep?

So Conte is doing worse than Pep. That much is clear. Zizu did better than Jose at Real that much us clear too. Jose is also doing worse than Pep that much clear was in November, it is more obvious now. So, to sum it up during Jose's time time at United, he lost EPL to Conte before Christmas and to Pep before Christmas again. Lets see what the third season holds. Doubt Jose will have an upper hand over Pep. Which will mean that Conte did better with Chelsea than Jose with United. If Jose wins the league next season, then it will mean that Pep, Conte and Jose all did a decent job in the league. It works both ways. If Jose wins, it implies that Pep lost.

 

[Kostov]

So Conte is doing worse than Pep. That much is clear. Zizu did better than Jose at Real that much us clear too. Jose is also doing worse than Pep that much clear was in November, it is more obvious now. So, to sum it up during Jose's time time at United, he lost EPL to Conte before Christmas and to Pep before Christmas again. Lets see what the third season holds. Doubt Jose will have an upper hand over Pep. Which will mean that Conte did better with Chelsea than Jose with United. If Jose wins the league next season, then it will mean that Pep, Conte and Jose all did a decent job in the league. It works both ways. If Jose wins, it implies that Pep lost.

Nobody fecking lost anything in the league in December, get a grip. United didn’t lose anything by appointing Mourinho yet, we have only improved from the shambles we’ve been.

 

[Water Melon]

Nobody fecking lost anything in the league in December, get a grip. United didn’t lose anything by appointing Mourinho yet, we have only improved from the shambles we’ve been.

Keep on dreaming of winning the league this season then. Just like you did last season. The trend is there, last season and this one we are out of title race before Christmas. Jose spent tons of money and is still very far from winning the league. Lets see how we do next, but the gap between us and the noisy neighbours is growing.

 

[dichinero]

While I agree we're relatively fine, you are wrong about one of the best point totals.

See:

Only 9 out of 25 times does that theory holds true. There's that one then

 

[reddevil702]

Keep on dreaming of winning the league this season then. Just like you did last season. The trend is there, last season and this one we are out of title race before Christmas. Jose spent tons of money and is still very far from winning the league. Lets see how we do next, but the gap between us and the noisy neighbours is growing.

United being out of the title race is more City having a phenomenal season and not Jose underachieving. City's season could potentially be one for the history books. Look at other league tables, We'd be 3 points of Barca in La Liga and 3 points above Bayern in the Bundesliga. My point is any other season we would be right there fighting, I don't see the fact that we're not as us having a shit season. The progress is evident in the fact that we are all demanding a league title. Previous years we would have settled for top 4.

 

[adexkola]

"If you're not first, you're last"

Said by an idiot in a movie.

 

[Hugh Jass]

United being out of the title race is more City having a phenomenal season and not Jose underachieving. City's season could potentially be one for the history books. Look at other league tables, We'd be 3 points of Barca in La Liga and 3 points above Bayern in the Bundesliga. My point is any other season we would be right there fighting, I don't see the fact that we're not as us having a shit season. The progress is evident in the fact that we are all demanding a league title. Previous years we would have settled for top 4.

This.

 

[Water Melon]

United being out of the title race is more City having a phenomenal season and not Jose underachieving. City's season could potentially be one for the history books. Look at other league tables, We'd be 3 points of Barca in La Liga and 3 points above Bayern in the Bundesliga. My point is any other season we would be right there fighting, I don't see the fact that we're not as us having a shit season. The progress is evident in the fact that we are all demanding a league title. Previous years we would have settled for top 4.

The challenge is to win the race. The goal of progressing is to win a war, not a battle. We have lost 2 wars early. Here's hoping for a win in the third one.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

2nd place is the first of the losers. I'm happy we are being criticised in the media because it shows that the expectations are higher here than for example Tottenham. Big clubs like Madrid have sacked managers who finished 2nd. Obviously I'm not saying Mourinho needs to go but it's obvious that this season is pretty much a write off in terms of a title challenge and he needs to prepare a massive clear out in the summer. I see some similarities between City last season and our season now. They had similar results to what we are getting now and they were especially weak in the FB areas which is exactly what we have now. It's crucial there are upgrades in the wide areas and another top quality CM maybe even two are added as well. Herrera, Fellaini, Blind, Darmian, Mkhi, and one of Jones or Smalling should all go. Carrick will retire and Zlatan probably won't stay either. A RW is very important as well. That's a LB, CM, RW and a 10. If possible a back up RB to Valencia wouldn't be bad with a view to eventually taking that position.​

That's kinda how I feel. Klopp, for example, would be celebrated by his fans for finishing top four - Jose doesn't have that luxury, he gets pelters for being second.

 

[Stacks]

United being out of the title race is more City having a phenomenal season and not Jose underachieving. City's season could potentially be one for the history books. Look at other league tables, We'd be 3 points of Barca in La Liga and 3 points above Bayern in the Bundesliga. My point is any other season we would be right there fighting, I don't see the fact that we're not as us having a shit season. The progress is evident in the fact that we are all demanding a league title. Previous years we would have settled for top 4.

Do you think City are the strongest side you have seen in for a few years? I don't. One could argue that the way City (who are no 2009 Barca, 2006 Chelsea, 2008 Man Utd 2013 Bayern) are dispatching this league campaign, maybe we should do better as the teams seem so easily beatable. They have averaged 3 goals a game with Sterling, Sane and Aguero/Jesus and are dominating most teams. We once had Ronaldo Tevez and Rooney! could this not suggest that perhaps we ourselves should be doing better and maybe this isn't as an amazing performance with this premier league standard?

 

[haram]

Said by an idiot in a movie.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

There is a much bigger transition Mourinho is in charge of here at United. Lukaku is replacing Rooney & RVP. Pogba and Matic are replacing Scholes and Carrick after all these years. Lukaku and Pogba are a huge portion of our spending under Mourinho

See on this part here, see this is where I have issue with Jose because there doesn’t seem to be any game plan or semblance of Something getting built. It’s all great to say we are sitting in 2nd with record this and that but the football has been dreadful and amateurish and looks more like he depends on bodies back defending like they at the Alamo and then Just having one of our very gifted players do something.

There doesn’t seem to be any real cohesion within our play and 16-18 months down the line you’d expect to see some sort of development. You look at Pool and it’s obvious Klopp is working towards something, Pep it was there last year and it’s still not finished. even under LVG there were signs that we were working towards a finished product. There doesn’t seem to be anything under Jose, so when people question what he is doing and say we’ve been pretty poor it’s because of that.

You look at him and this team and honestly I don’t think he can raise his game to the level currently being set. It’s a real problem, this team has way more talent in it than what has been shown so far, and of course there are areas that need improving, look at every team and you’ll see a weakness, I just don’t trust Jose to fix it.

 

[mav_9me]

Only 9 out of 25 times does that theory holds true. There's that one then

But this is still title challenging territory normally.

 

[Hugh Jass]

There are six teams going for one position, so five teams have to fail. This isnt the french or german league folks.

 

[Sky1981]

See on this part here, see this is where I have issue with Jose because there doesn’t seem to be any game plan or semblance of Something getting built. It’s all great to say we are sitting in 2nd with record this and that but the football has been dreadful and amateurish and looks more like he depends on bodies back defending like they at the Alamo and then Just having one of our very gifted players do something.

There doesn’t seem to be any real cohesion within our play and 16-18 months down the line you’d expect to see some sort of development. You look at Pool and it’s obvious Klopp is working towards something, Pep it was there last year and it’s still not finished. even under LVG there were signs that we were working towards a finished product. There doesn’t seem to be anything under Jose, so when people question what he is doing and say we’ve been pretty poor it’s because of that.

You look at him and this team and honestly I don’t think he can raise his game to the level currently being set. It’s a real problem, this team has way more talent in it than what has been shown so far, and of course there are areas that need improving, look at every team and you’ll see a weakness, I just don’t trust Jose to fix it.

Madrid/City/Chelsea/Barcelona/bayern/juve and many other top teams change manager almost every year and they perform each year.

We changes manager 3 times since saf and none of them won us the league yet.

What's the difference? Simply manager? I don't think so. Our club is undergoing a major character, culter and structure rebuilding post saf. Give it time.

Changing a new manager won't simply make us a free flowing football machine over night. Right now we don't have the luxury to prioritize style over substance. You do that when you won the league. Not before

 

[iamherenow]

The challenge is to win the race. The goal of progressing is to win a war, not a battle. We have lost 2 wars early. Here's hoping for a win in the third one.

so you were expecting the title in mourinho first season,in which he was just buying the current spine of the team?,i mean before pogba,our midfield was proper wank then ibra got injured and we had to get a striker because we had to release rooney which took up most of our budget..(we all agreed we needed a striker)...you people talk a lot of nonsense in here...
At the beginning of the season,you all were saying we are not yet totally equipped to win the epl,then we started well and one of our best player missed like 12 games and our manager manoeuvred through it.
it's funny how you all think all we need is to change the manager and we will be playing *attacking football* and what not.most likely the board would sign someone who will be overwhelmed with the constant pressure..

 

[Andersons Dietician]

Madrid/City/Chelsea/Barcelona/bayern/juve and many other top teams change manager almost every year and they perform each year.

We changes manager 3 times since saf and none of them won us the league yet.

What's the difference? Simply manager? I don't think so. Our club is undergoing a major character, culter and structure rebuilding post saf. Give it time.

Changing a new manager won't simply make us a free flowing football machine over night. Right now we don't have the luxury to prioritize style over substance. You do that when you won the league. Not before

We don’t have to be free flowing although it would be nice, showing any basic understanding of how to control a game would be a nice step forward. If he also insists on being a counter attacking team, having one that can actually counter would be nice.

I’d happily give any manager time as long as it looks like Something is happening getting built and we are genuinely improving on the pitch. Unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be any sign of it. Results have been great, but we don’t look anywhere near like a good team, we actually got outplayed by Bristol City and they played better than anything we’ve done this season so far.

What is this culture and character change which is happening? Just acceptance of Jose’s ways?

 

[iamherenow]

Keep on dreaming of winning the league this season then. Just like you did last season. The trend is there, last season and this one we are out of title race before Christmas. Jose spent tons of money and is still very far from winning the league. Lets see how we do next, but the gap between us and the noisy neighbours is growing.

so there is no context right,so you actually believe all mourinho had to do was walk in and just win the league forgetting we had no midfield,I mean our best midfield pairing currently were bought by mourinho,had to ship out an over the hill Rooney and when Zlatan got injured,had to get a striker which wasn't cheap..

 

[Water Melon]

so you were expecting the title in mourinho first season,in which he was just buying the current spine of the team?,i mean before pogba,our midfield was proper wank then ibra got injured and we had to get a striker because we had to release rooney which took up most of our budget..(we all agreed we needed a striker)...you people talk a lot of nonsense in here...
At the beginning of the season,you all were saying we are not yet totally equipped to win the epl,then we started well and one of our best player missed like 12 games and our manager manoeuvred through it.
it's funny how you all think all we need is to change the manager and we will be playing *attacking football* and what not.most likely the board would sign someone who will be overwhelmed with the constant pressure..

The task is to win either CL or EPL during Mous tenure. Two seasons are gone, the gap is increasing. I am ready to bet that Pep will still finish above Mou in the third.

 

[Trophy Room]

This kind of argument is like the alternative premier league bullshit. What matters is this season and simply put we haven't been good enough. No point sugar coating things to make us feel better. Our mentality should be to accept the current standard and raise the bar ourselves.

 

[iamherenow]

See on this part here, see this is where I have issue with Jose because there doesn’t seem to be any game plan or semblance of Something getting built. It’s all great to say we are sitting in 2nd with record this and that but the football has been dreadful and amateurish and looks more like he depends on bodies back defending like they at the Alamo and then Just having one of our very gifted players do something.

There doesn’t seem to be any real cohesion within our play and 16-18 months down the line you’d expect to see some sort of development. You look at Pool and it’s obvious Klopp is working towards something, Pep it was there last year and it’s still not finished. even under LVG there were signs that we were working towards a finished product. There doesn’t seem to be anything under Jose, so when people question what he is doing and say we’ve been pretty poor it’s because of that.

You look at him and this team and honestly I don’t think he can raise his game to the level currently being set. It’s a real problem, this team has way more talent in it than what has been shown so far, and of course there are areas that need improving, look at every team and you’ll see a weakness, I just don’t trust Jose to fix it.

I believe he can fix it,our main problem is keeping the ball and not panicking,I feel why our players lose their shit most times is because they are afraid to lose because of the pelters they will get..i honestly feel mourinho doesn't fully trust this team,so we go to deefending deep because he doesn't believe this people won't lose their shit easily..most of his teams over the years where calm personified while defending,but this team currently panick at any slight pressure..

 

[Water Melon]

so there is no context right,so you actually believe all mourinho had to do was walk in and just win the league forgetting we had no midfield,I mean our best midfield pairing currently were bought by mourinho,had to ship out an over the hill Rooney and when Zlatan got injured,had to get a striker which wasn't cheap..

Three years time is huge enough to cover all the context. We have money to spend, we are managed buy a genius tactician we have a good core of players. Time to deliver, hundreds of millions spent already. No major trophy after 3 seasons and half a billion spent, no more Mou for me. Lets see what the genius has up his sleeve. He was beaten very early in the league for 2 seasons in a row. He still has the third one. He is not supposed to win the league with Leicester, which turned out to be possible, he is supposed to win the league with the biggest football club in the world.

 

[iamherenow]

The task is to win either CL or EPL during Mous tenure. Two seasons are gone, the gap is increasing. I am ready to bet that Pep will still finish above Mou in the third.

so we should just overlook our wank squad and just say his task is to win Cl or Pl..because he is a miracle worker right?..if you are so sure pep will finish above him,maybe we should sack mourinho and appoint the manager that would finish above pep....who would you have in mind?..

 

[Water Melon]

so we should just overlook our wank squad and just say his task is to win Cl or Pl..because he is a miracle worker right?..if you are so sure pep will finish above him,maybe we should sack mourinho and appoint the manager that would finish above pep....who would you have in mind?..

Wank squad, the most expensive squad in the league being wank?? Lmfao. Now be a man and take a simple bet. I am sure Pep will do better with City and stay longer with City than Mou with United. You can bet on the opposite. The loser fecks off from the Caf. Got enough balls?

 

[Andersons Dietician]

I believe he can fix it,our main problem is keeping the ball and not panicking,I feel why our players lose their shit most times is because they are afraid to lose because of the pelters they will get..i honestly feel mourinho doesn't fully trust this team,so we go to deefending deep because he doesn't believe this people won't lose their shit easily..most of his teams over the years where calm personified while defending,but this team currently panick at any slight pressure..

i think we have quite a lot of problems but yeah this is certainly 1 of them and I also think part of it is what you’re suggesting but also in how they are played on the pitch.

Example Shaw’s troubles with Jose started when he and Martial were in the corner and he breaks forward expecting Martial to play the ball forward.(now for me that’s good play) Martial lost possession and we were punished. Apparently Jose went ape on Shaw for that. So to me something like that would create fear, I think if we watch Martial you actually see it because instead of breaking with his fullback he tends to cover the position instead.

Another thing, when I was watching Sunday supplement they put forth something that I’m sure many of us were thinking of which is,”this team has no brain.” However in Jose’s preferred 4231 I don’t see where he would fit a player like that in. Because arguably only Carrick and Mata fit the requirement of such a player and I’d argue that Mata tend to fail to make a game his.

Personally I would have thought shifting to 433 or a 3142 is where he needs to head so he can get someone in with Pogba and Matic who can control and dictate a game and really so far I haven’t seen us linked with any players of that kind.

 

[RedPed]

Dear Lord, even the Mourinho thread has turned into a City thread! Feck off!

By the stupid logic in here, Liverpool should sack Klopp, Spurs should sack Poch and Conte's on his way out!

Our fans are more embarrassing than Mourinho! Last season they were pissed because we didn't get a top 4 spot and the trophies were scant consolation for a 'poor' season.

Now we're safe in 2nd and still whining?

 

[Di Maria's angel]

We can't as lazy to blame spending surely. Sané and Walker are the only two outfield players who Pep has bought who's actually feutured in the 11 for them every week. Let's be honest and give the managers their due. The team Pep inherited wasn't as strong as we many would like to think today. Silva was considered over the hill, Aguero was a crock almost like Kompany, Otamendi was a joke, Sterling was a joke and a flop, and very few of their new signings have actually performed for them.

Could say the same about United. We were carried by an 18 and 19 year old in 15/16 and that, too, a 5th place position. We had an attack that scored 49 goals, a tally we will beat in 22 or 23 games this season. We were in a worse state than them.