If he fails with Russia, he will be cut in half by the press.
José Mourinho | 2018/19 Performances
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If he fails with Russia, he will be cut in half by the press.
Please someone answer this good question.
'but but but Fergie told us to stand by the manager!!!'
Supporting the manager =/= supporting the club.
Yeah, i was going to post the same thing. I see him gone by Christmas.
I am all for supporting the manager when the manager supports the club. When the manager is someone who I believe understands how big the club is and how to behave as a Manchester United manager for the good of the club.
Not someone who puts his own interests first.
Not someone who puts his own interests first.
I know people are upset about this whole Martial situation but I do sympathise with Mou a bit on this.
How many attackers does Mou have that he can field against Leicester - Sanchez, Mata and...
Like, this is not a joke, this is a real premier league game where any dropped points is a massive deal considering the competitiveness of the top teams. Mou must be sweating balls looking at what he has available for the first few games of the season. Like it isn’t real life to go into the season unable to even field a front 3 of senior players. People can be like yeah some things are more important than football but for Mou this is his life, his job is his life and if we mess up the beginning of the season it could be over for him. What big job will he get after this? This club has been his dream and he’s close to losing it all because he got screwed over by circumstances that were not his fault at all.
So yeah he’s a miserable sod and his negativity is concerning but I do kind of get it and I do sympathise with him about it, even if he’s handling it poorly.
How many attackers does Mou have that he can field against Leicester - Sanchez, Mata and...
Like, this is not a joke, this is a real premier league game where any dropped points is a massive deal considering the competitiveness of the top teams. Mou must be sweating balls looking at what he has available for the first few games of the season. Like it isn’t real life to go into the season unable to even field a front 3 of senior players. People can be like yeah some things are more important than football but for Mou this is his life, his job is his life and if we mess up the beginning of the season it could be over for him. What big job will he get after this? This club has been his dream and he’s close to losing it all because he got screwed over by circumstances that were not his fault at all.
So yeah he’s a miserable sod and his negativity is concerning but I do kind of get it and I do sympathise with him about it, even if he’s handling it poorly.
It's World Cup year. We were always going to have lots of players missing pre-season and being unfit for the start of the new season. If Mourinho hasn't prepared for that, I would be EXTREMELY concerned about his attitude to the job.
It smacks a little of laziness.
It smacks a little of laziness.
Funny thing is...He now may actually need some of these youngsters for the beginning of the season, which he just threw under the bus. What a way to make sure they come into those games with their confidence flying high, the man is short sighted as they get.
If Mourinho isn't ultimately successful at his "dream" job, it is categorically not because Martials girlfriend had a baby.
I am not sure I get why some of our world cup players can't play vs Leicester? I mean they are not likely to have lost much fitness in a few weeks.
Rashford and Jones are coming back early so it sounds like they will be available. They should be fit and not jaded since they haven't played long games. Lindelof and Fellaini should be available. Not sure about Pogba, Lukaku, Lingard and Young, these are the only four who have played a lot of WC football really. The rest should be fresh enough.
Rashford and Jones are coming back early so it sounds like they will be available. They should be fit and not jaded since they haven't played long games. Lindelof and Fellaini should be available. Not sure about Pogba, Lukaku, Lingard and Young, these are the only four who have played a lot of WC football really. The rest should be fresh enough.
You lose it very very easily. I remember Desailly saying that even during a season, if he doesn't train for a week, like a serious training session, he loses fitness and sharpness. Here we are talking about players in holidays for a few weeks, unless they still train regularly to keep a decent minimal level and they watch out for what they eat/drink
But after coming back for a week they should be good for 70 minutes surely?
'Those are not my players' ffs. Will be historical if he manages to piss off youth players to not even want to play for him in pre season. What is with the constant whining from the man really? Is he really having it worse off than other managers with the constant jabs at players/club in pre season
The way in which Jose delivers his messages is where he doesn't help himself, and consequently, half the Caf and the great media majority want him out or write him off. But the actual content of what he's saying is very hard to disagree with. So whilst I don't defend how he deals with questions or speaks about players publicly, I hardly ever disagree with what he's actually saying.
Yeah but if he can only field 2 attacking players in the first game of the season then he has a right to be extremely stressed no? Or should he take it all in his stride like a perfect gentleman like I’m sure Klopp or Pep would if they were in this position.
Well the world cup wasn't a secret, he knew it was coming and there'd be a good chance these players would be unavailable for the start of the season.
I'd rather we crash and burn fast than a slow death. If we are destined for metldown, the quicker the better. So we can move on.
Mathew Syed wrote an article a few days before we hired him. The article now seems like a prophecy.
You sell your soul for short term gain but in the end, there's nothing left.
You sell your soul for short term gain but in the end, there's nothing left.
I don’t think anybody predicted England would get right to the end..
Also Mou probably expected a couple of signings such as a backup striker and winger which he didn’t get, so no he did not predict this situation
Yeah we were doing so well before we hired him. I really enjoyed the free fall into mediocrity under Moyes and LVG. In particular I enjoyed having managers who couldn't convince top players to join. But mainly I enjoyed not knowing whether top 4 would be in any way realistic. Our soul was so pure back then.
Do you have a link for that article? Someone i know told me similar when hired him, he's an arsenal fan so I didn't pay too much mind to what he was saying at the time.
If selling our soul meant 2 trophies, second place and signing world class players like Pogba, Lukaku and Sanchez then that’s a pretty good deal.
Him needing to go now doesn’t meant it was a mistake to get him 2 years ago, he’s improved us massively and done a lot of good for this club.
Whoever thinks we’re going to get a manager who will stay for 10 years is living in a dream world, it just doesn’t happen anymore
The sad part is the outlook of both managers is reflected in the football .
Well either way this scenario should have been planned for. Instead it feels to me that instead of dealing with it and managing the situation professionally, he'd rather sulk and throw blame around.
It depends on individuals
There is a say, "Better is the enemy of good." Up to this point, Mourinho has managed to make us less bad while spending a lot and having more time than his predecessors but we aren't good and for good or bad reason the future doesn't look bright.
It’s hard to disagree with much that’s come out of Mourinho’s mouth. He’s clearly pissed off with having to do a pre season tour with a half baked squad. Providing he’s ensuring a harmonious atmosphere within the dressing room, I couldn’t really give a stuff about how the press perceives him.
As it happens, I think there’s enough quality within this squad to achieve something meaningful this season. I also think we shouldn’t read too much into all the transfer window posturing, because a couple of signings could easily happen before the deadline.
Hard as it is, I’m reserving judgement until I see the opening day line up and performance. It’s a funny one - I can see us either imploding or picking up some real momentum and doing something great. I don’t think there will be much grey area for the club this season.
As it happens, I think there’s enough quality within this squad to achieve something meaningful this season. I also think we shouldn’t read too much into all the transfer window posturing, because a couple of signings could easily happen before the deadline.
Hard as it is, I’m reserving judgement until I see the opening day line up and performance. It’s a funny one - I can see us either imploding or picking up some real momentum and doing something great. I don’t think there will be much grey area for the club this season.
Great post mate!
He wasn't my pick but as soon as he signed,I quickly accepted him. I'm not saying it was a mistake signing him. I am just saying the reality of how it feels with him. You know it's going to turn sour but you're still left disappointed when it happens.
Looking back, he was probably the best choice but I get the feeling the club doesn't plan for these things and react to events. It would be silly if the club was planning to have him long term.
In anycase, as miserable as I feel, I hope we have a great seasom and play some enjoyable football.
To throw the young players under the bus as he did is basically unheard of in today's football. Disgusting behaviour from someone they expect to instill them confidence and back them off. All this while in charge of a club who has a tradition of nurturing young players, he's a villain nowadays, and the results and playing style are laughable.
Even if i'm a Liverpool fan, the quotes about Alexis and the young players are making my blood boil, if Utd had an owner who really cared about the club and its tradition, Mourinho would have been sacked or at least given a warning about his conduct.
Even if i'm a Liverpool fan, the quotes about Alexis and the young players are making my blood boil, if Utd had an owner who really cared about the club and its tradition, Mourinho would have been sacked or at least given a warning about his conduct.
I actually think with one or two additions and players on form, we can have a good season. But looking at Mourinho, you would think even he doesn't believe it.
The biggest problem for Mourinho is perception. His demeanour, general outlook is reflected in his football. So the easiest assumption is that the two are related even though it might not be true.
That's not the point you were making at all.
While I would like Mourinho to have spoken more like Pep there, the proof is during the season. How many of these kids will Pep play? You'd expect a few based on his talk but Last season he chose to have one less sub than get a random youngster to give him some match day squad experience. I may also be wrong but don't think People gave many youngsters debuts either in general
Of course it's negative for a player to hear that but none of them can be sitting there right now thinking they'll be above Lukaku, Pogba, Rashford, Lingard, Matic and co based on anything yet .Mourinho needs to judge them against those guys in training.
Mou is a prick but Pep is full of shite so I wouldn’t use his words as a basis for comparison.
He can play the magnanimous saint all he likes but he’s just being an opportunist here with these quotes. He won’t back up his words by giving youth a chance this season and will continue to spunk unprecedented amounts of cash on every position at every opportunity.
Sick and tired of him, hopefully the board sacks him quick and early. Utterly joyless ghoul.
Decent odds on him being sacked by xmas. Might stick some money on
Something tells me Mourinho is going to be off before the seasons out. Expected so much more from him he’s been such a massive let down.
A lot of people looking for reasons to hate him. He maybe a grumpy sod. However, unless we have a total failure of a season I am sticking by him.
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