José Mourinho | 2018/19 Performances

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I can't stand this guy anymore. He is basically lashing out at everyone. The meltdown has started already. Also absolutely unacceptable the way he is hanging those young players out to dry. He only cares about himself and not the club.
 
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I stand by my prediction of him not making it to 2019 with us.
 
Lvg beat madrid & barca 3-1 in pre-season and we thought he is going to play good football eh ?
Madrid end up winning UCL &. Barca won la liga. Jose was right about this isn't his squad. Sanchez is the only regular starter today.
 
Once a manager starts to have an attitude towards his team like this it unsettles everything and puts the club at great risk of losing their best players, I'm sorry but our best players are a lot more valuable to this club than the manager at the moment.
 
Great way to motivate the young lads Jose! What an absolute cock!
 
When our manager is the living embodiment of misery, can we be surprised the players look unenthusiastic and our football is dire?

The board need to be proactive and make moves to get rid as soon as the meltdown starts.

Will be gone by christmas.
 
My apathy for the club is growing. The football is soul destroying and even when you try and force yourself to be positive, this dementor appears on your screen and sucks the life out.
 
maniwin said:
Which he was right about , Iker and Raul was finished.
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Raul wasn't at the club then.

And that's not the point.

The way Jose handled Rooney is how he should have handled Iker. Instead if he thoroughly disrespected a club legend and turned half of the team/media against him for good.
 
PepsiCola said:
When our manager is the living embodiment of misery, can we be surprised the players look unenthusiastic and our football is dire?

The board need to be proactive and make moves to get rid as soon as the meltdown starts.

Will be gone by christmas.
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Only way he's gone by Christmas is if he leaves.

Woodward didn't sack Moyes or Van Gaal when it obvious they'd fail. He waited til the very end.
 
Adisa said:
The conditions are prime for a meltdown.
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You just know any player that was on WC duty that has his full holiday and doesn't answer to his SOS will be deemed a traitor in his eyes and lead to another fight.
 
I do not care one ounce about pre-season, he will be judged from GW1 and onwards as usual. I do however care about the club and the atmosphere, and honestly, how would a United-player feel right now? To be honest, I think Liverpool and City-players are more looking forward to coming back from holiday - ours just look out of sync. How is the harmony in the group with Pogba a bit sick of him and Martial obviously disgruntled? We’ll find out soon enough, right now the group isn’t anywhere good enough to win anything and it’s Mourinho’s responsibility to assemble a squad. If not option A, then B and so forth.

It hurts seeing Juan Mata as a choice for right midfield and then see City having Bernardo Silva as their reserve. Says everything in many ways.
 
I hate Mourinho's style of play.

However, you have to be sympathetic to his downbeat behaviour. Yes, he should be an inspiring figure, but when things are going wrong for you in every corner you can't help but be a sad cnut.

List of misfortunes:
He has 30% of regular starters for the 1st game of the season
Matic had surgery
He can't upgrade on two crucial positions (according to his press conference)
He doesn't have players to work with and so will cost him the first few games of a PL campaign.
He has players who want to leave in Martial and Darmian.
Valencia is injured.

Mourinho is trying to win the PL title! Players not available, two injuries to his most important players, Woodward failing him in transfers. I would be the same if I was in his shoes.
 
Couldn't give a flying feck about results/performances in pre season friendlies but this bloke seriously needs to shut the feck up. One daft quote after the other.
 
LazyRed-Ninja said:
If anything United fans should keep it together. If Mourinho with a budget couldnt fix united , who can?
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A competent director of football with a proper plan of action. Not short-sighted big-name manager appointments and shit signings.
 
LazyRed-Ninja said:
If anything United fans should stick together if that happens. If Mourinho with a budget couldnt fix United , who can?
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How does that make any sense? No other manager can do a job for United?

You think we're going to implode when he leaves in 12 months time? (which he will)
 
Not a snap judgement (game tonight was pretty meaningless) and didn't expect Jose to come in and win the league in one year but it's getting harder and harder to see the positives and how we'll challenge for the top trophies again or (as importantly), at least be a team you'd want to watch.

How successful Jose's buys have been ..... the style of play ..... the effort in games/desire to play for the manager (yes I know they're paid a ton) .... the togetherness ..... the impact the squad players have when coming in .... the tone of press interviews .... the square pegs/round holes selections ..... the man management .... the improvements in players that good coaches should make (instead of just buying).

Yes it'd be great if all of these were positive but that's unrealistic. But even a few would be good... I look at those things and I struggle to make a case for one or two of them.

Not a tantrum/sack him fan but can't say I'd be sad if it happened. (And anyone saying "we gave Ferguson time... that worked out, be patient" is dreaming. He was a one off.)

Would love to be wrong and we see a positive Jose, a glass half full Jose, a more attack minded mentality (not just gung-ho) .... basically, a United team we actually like to watch, but can't see it.
 
It seems to be a trend by a few to criticise anyone that voices their opinion about our style of play. Really odd that. I mean how can anyone not see it and not realise that is a valid concern?
 
LazyRed-Ninja said:
If anything United fans should stick together if that happens. If Mourinho with a budget couldnt fix United , who can?
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Mourinho has actually done alright at United, winning 2 trophies in his first year after taking over a diabolical shit-show, and finishing 2nd last year. The problem is he plays dire football. United fans will never accept that unless it's justified by a league title or Champions League. When you're closest rivals are making the CL final and your city neighbors winning the title by miles playing amazing football, it's completely unjustified. The person who fixes United can be somebody who adheres to the values of the fecking club. Moyes, LVG and Jose are all defence-minded, boring coaches.
 
Can't see why he is already working on his own burial.

This can be an incredible season for us, and I dont believe why Mourinho shouldn't think that as well. He has asked for ton of players. and while club hasn't gotten 10 out of 10 players. they did get him 9 out of 10. So why not just pretend that you are very happy in general, and are just relaxed during the time of pre season. how unprofessional he is trying to be. and outrageously for no reason. If united should just spend 100 M every time he is pissed, he clearly is not going to make it here. The question is, does he want to ? Of course, I dont want to read everything he says to journalists that seriously, but at the same time, he genuinely can't help himself.
 
Samid said:
Couldn't give a flying feck about results/performances in pre season friendlies but this bloke seriously needs to shut the feck up. One daft quote after the other.
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Mourinho always been like that. Absolves himself of absolutely everything.
 
LazyRed-Ninja said:
If anything United fans should stick together if that happens. If Mourinho with a budget couldnt fix United , who can?
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The only crime Mourinho has committed so far (this preseason excluded) is his style of football. 2 trophies first season and 2nd place and a final second season is really good progress. The only issue is that his style is poor. If he played attacking football he’d be adored like Klopp.

That issue will never go away with Mou so if he left people would be happy, we’d certainly get an attacking manager in and even if we didn’t win the league for a couple of years people would be happy to see entertaining football.

Whether there is any manager who we could get who’d actually make us competitive in the league or CL while playing attacking football I don’t know and don’t feel confident there’s anyone available right now. However it just doesn’t seem like we’re being run with that much foresight so I don’t think that will stop any of what I said above happening. Give it 3 years and if we’re in the same position being worried about whether our current manager is the right one for us I wouldn’t be surprised
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
Only way he's gone by Christmas is if he leaves.

Woodward didn't sack Moyes or Van Gaal when it obvious they'd fail. He waited til the very end.
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To think Klopp and Pep were busy signing with our rivals while our board were putting faith in fecking Van Gaal.
 
Samid said:
Couldn't give a flying feck about results/performances in pre season friendlies but this bloke seriously needs to shut the feck up. One daft quote after the other.
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Yep my thoughts exactly.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
Only way he's gone by Christmas is if he leaves.

Woodward didn't sack Moyes or Van Gaal when it obvious they'd fail. He waited til the very end.
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Exactly. Until it was mathematically impossible for top 4. Or in lvg’s case the fa cup final being over.

I’m more and more in the Jose out camp as he’s attitude is a complete joke and not what we stand for (but we expected this). The problem I see is that these Duncan castle quotes might be real and the club really is only backing us for top 4.

I love this club but I’m very worried about our future. Will this be a common theme? New manager; 1st season, play better. 2nd season, it will click. 3rd season either gone or on his way out.

We desperately need changes at the top. A plan on how to make United the dominant team in England (those days are probably over due to the strength in depth) and a force in Europe. DOF and an Empathasis an building an identity. Right know I honestly would honestly rip your arm off if someone said we won’t win a league title for 3-4 more years but we’ll have the foundations set where we have a club and manager on the same page, playing GOOD football and working towards an unbelievable team.

Gonna be one damn interesting season that’s for sure.
 
Minimalist said:
How does that make any sense? No other manager can do a job for United?

You think we're going to implode when he leaves in 12 months time? (which he will)
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Just a bit of context. My initial position is that mourinho has actually improved United in terms of trophies and results Post Sir Alex. The comment you replied to specifically was directed to a poster stating that it could turn ugly if the team drops points early this season.

It could become ugly IF Mourinho would leave depending on the circumstances. Would be it based on mutual grounds or an actual sacking? Also, a new manager would have to start rebuilding again and the world class players under Mourinho (Lukaku, Pogba, Sanchez etc) might become disstatisfied themselves. At that point in time, would the phrase ' let the rebuilding start' still hold any merit or become a parody ?
 
Saf94 said:
The only crime Mourinho has committed so far (this preseason excluded) is his style of football. 2 trophies first season and 2nd place and a final second season is really good progress. The only issue is that his style is poor. If he played attacking football he’d be adored like Klopp.

That issue will never go away with Mou so if he left people would be happy, we’d certainly get an attacking manager in and even if we didn’t win the league for a couple of years people would be happy to see entertaining football.

Whether there is any manager who we could get who’d actually make us competitive in the league or CL while playing attacking football I don’t know and don’t feel confident there’s anyone available right now. However it just doesn’t seem like we’re being run with that much foresight so I don’t think that will stop any of what I said above happening. Give it 3 years and if we’re in the same position being worried about whether our current manager is the right one for us I wouldn’t be surprised
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You make valid points. I do think the following. How many managers would have to be sacrificed before people would realize that the problem is actually more then the manager alone? Within that scenario, replacing a manager every 1-3 years would be like groundhog day.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
Only way he's gone by Christmas is if he leaves.

Woodward didn't sack Moyes or Van Gaal when it obvious they'd fail. He waited til the very end.
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True problem is those two aren’t the types to make something happen that could lead to an early sacking other than poor results, Jose has many ways. I do think tho, Woody and Co will give him till the end unless something drastic happens.
 
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