Jose said we will sign three players in the summer and unless we sign one this January, I doubt we'd be signing two CMs. Carrick has played just one game this season btw, so I don't think he needs replacing. Herrera can be Backup to Matic or we can call back Pereira.
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You want both Jorginho and SMS? That would easily be £150m+
And that is before we adress the RW and possibly fullback.
I doubt it. Jorginho is rumoured at 40m and Savic although rated very high, shouldn't go for more than 60m.
I can guarantee you that Jorginho going to a PL club, and especially United, won't go for £40m.
Same goes for Savic.
Those prices are the max I'd pay for them. I really hope we don't get ripped off.
Gylfi Sigurdsson went for £50m. That is the climate we're doing business in.
Look at what Inter demanded for Perisic. Italian clubs know that PL clubs are loaded, and will take full advantage.
It would be okay be okay if they are players we desperately need though - as was the case with Perisic.
I thought Inter were funded by the Chinese? They probably didn't wan't sell him.
Like I said, I don't want us to be rip off, and Sigurdsson is the prime example of a rip off.
None of them will cost above 60m Euros IMO
Carrick has been badly missed regardless of him playing one game. Especially when Pogba was out. Mourinho himself also confirmed he was intent on buying 2 CMs in the summer. One specifically to replace Carrick.
Pereira should be returning as a winger like he is at Valencia.
When did Jose say that? Link?
If we play 433, then Pereira will likely play in midfield. Pogba, Matic, Herrera, Pereira, New CM, Mctominay/Fellaini seems about right.
http://www.goal.com/en-us/amp/news/...s-as-he-targets-two/n501fzabb9wx15j38zbx83c53
"I think, next season, we are going to get two or three more players," Mourinho told United's official website. "We are going to lose also two or three. If you can try to anticipate, you can more or less see that it's normal that this is going to happen. It's not going to happen - a dramatic change and a dramatic improvement - but in time, step by step, with some balance, we have to do it.
"If, next summer, we are going to sign a midfield player, it's to replace Michael Carrick and Michael is a phenomenal player that, this season, he couldn't give us anything at all.
"He's in the end of his career so if, next summer, we buy a midfield player, it's not to improve our squad - it's to replace Michael Carrick. So, to improve our squad in the midfield, we would need to buy two."
That's clearly mind games. Propably to have an excuse for next season or to put pressure on the board. He said we would need two to improve the midfield, but didn't say we will sign two.
Jorginho is a no-brainer IMO.
Unless the board plain rebels and refuses to back Jose Im willing to bet we'll get two CMs in the summer. Along with a marquee attacking player. We will only invest in a fullback and one more attacking player beyond that after off loading a number of squad players
Personally think Weigl would be the better buy, but Jorginho would be an adequate alternative
Wouldn't be a good fit IMO, go all in on Weigl.
The thing with Weigl is he's a pure holder, if we buy him we'd still need another #8 (which I have no objection to for the record), he's not a good fit with Matic, he's competition for him, Dortmund and Germany have both tried Weigl in a double pivot or pushed further up and it doesn't work, he thrives playing the Busquets role, sitting behind two #8's.
Fabulous name for a footballer, much better than Savic (especially due to the lame acronym SMS).
I think it will be one CM, with Ozil, maybe joining for free to bolster the midfield.
Weigl is probably the last player we need right now, unless he's joining to start ahead of, or to be Matic's backup.
It depends on how fully we lean into 4-3-3, Weigl should come in as competition for Matic and then a #8 to upgrade/compete with Herrera, if we are going to do it right, with Carrick and Fellaini heading out.
Mourinho stated a couple of weeks ago we'll be in the market for a midfielder, more specifically a Carrick replacement in the summer . If that's the case I think Weigl is a fine player to bring in.
Because Kovacic was injured at the first of the season and now catching up Ceballos appearances. Also, Kovacic started on El Clasico and Ceballos not even included on the bench.
By Carrick's replacement, he didn't specifically mean a hyper-holding midfielder. Carrick although partly due to injury, have played just one game this season. Surely, Weigl wouldn't join to replace him for those few games? It's either Weigl or Matic, both can't start together. I feel and think we should sign a midfielder than can start together with Matic.
Yeah you're right I suppose. Do you think Jorginho is that midfielder though? I'm sceptical if he would thrive here.
Although Jorginho is capable of playing in an advanced position, he wasn't very good there until he was move predominantly deep. He's another holding midfielder, but a bit attack-oriented than Weigl. I doubt he'd fit with Matic, but he would definitely fit better than Weigl.
Carrick came with little hype and went on defying all odds at OT by letting his football do the talking. So I can't see how a Dortmund player can replace him considering that they practically do the exact contrary of that.
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Its a different formation/different manager though. Sarri's football is extremely attack oriented and workrate intensive. Not to forget that the Italian league is less physical then the EPL therefore Jorginho can cover the role even though he's not physically imposing. We're talking here of a playmaker with great vision and passing ability and whose also gifted with great workrate (12km a game). In my opinion he's the perfect bridge between Matic (ie the typical holding midfielder) and the far more attacking minded Pogba.
City is playing Fernandinho-KDB-Silva in the midfield three. Madrid is Casemiro-Kroos-Modric. PSG is Motta-Verratti-Rabiot. Barca is Busquets-Rakitic-Iniesta. Its the way the top teams are playing.
Maybe we should try Matic-Mata-Pogba.
Maybe we should try Matic-Mata-Pogba.
I mentioned this on a post about Ozil previously, where our midfield would be Pogba-Matic-Ozil, with Matic playing deepest and Pogba and Ozil taking it in turns making forward runs and coming deep to pick up the ball.
Please explain what the opposite of 'coming with little hype and letting your football do the talking' is and how all Dortmund players fit this narrative.
Kagawa and Mkhitaryan came with alot of hype and failed to make an impact whatsoever. Neither showed particular tenacity to make it work either. Seriously Id avoid buying players from Dortmund at this point. They might be good for the system they play in but that means little to us.
So Dortmund are the only players you buy that come without hype?
And again, please explain what the opposite of 'letting your football do the talking is', because I am envisioning somebody a player who's full of himself and talks a big game but doesn't deliver, which wouldn't describe the personality types off Kagawa or Mkhitaryan at all.
This 'we can't buy from Dortmund because of Kagawa and Mkhitaryan' is absolute garbage. There are many different personality types, character traits, styles of play and attributes across players within a club, they are not all one and the same being printed from a mould on a conveyor belt.
Not really. Its usually not the players fault if they get alot of hype, however, its the player's responsibility to let his football do the talking. Most did including Carrick.
Dortmund players seem to do very well with Dortmund but they struggle with us. It may be down to many things like the small club mentality, different tactics etc but that's not important whatsoever. What's important is to acknowledge for some reason they are struggling to do well with us. Hence why I can't see why we should spend serious money on yet another Dortmund player after what had happened. One had already been sent back and the other seems to be rejoining them pretty soon. Shitty had no luck with Dortmund players either with Gundogan spending most of his career in the treatment room.
I am a big fan of the 'fool me once shame on you, do me twice shame on me' theory.
Napoli have signed 22 year old midfielder on a free.
Maybe Jorginho's replacement? Think we will sign 2 midfielders by summer. One will be him.
Maybe Jorginho's replacement? Think we will sign 2 midfielders by summer. One will be him.
Hardly, he's barely made the Toulouse squad all season. Not exactly going to be replacing a key player at Napoli next season I don't think.
I thought that is precisely why they invested in Amodou Diarwara
Apparently had an argument with coaching staff and he dint play cause of that. Had his contract terminated. Napoli just dont sign anyone even on a free.
Jorginho's agents have been in Manchester to discuss a possible summer transfer to Man United.
The nearest to Carrick out there 
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