not really, no. your whole post is based off youtube videos and the perception that city sign better players than us simply because they're city.
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Is that if for Gundogans then?
Jorginho, Fernandinho, De Bruyne, Silva, other silva have shown more than him in the last few years.
Jorginho, Fernandinho, De Bruyne, Silva, other silva have shown more than him in the last few years.
Yes my post is based off of youtube videos (90% of my transfer posts are - idle hands innit). And yes I am partly concerned that City are picking him up. With regards to City signing better players than us, objectively speaking they have signed better players than us for at least half a decade. But anyway I have calmed down now. Someone else answered my SOS.
He is a replacement for an aging Fernandinho. The Brazilian will be in the wc and will lose part of the pre season after that. I doubt Fernandinho will be back straight to the start XI.
Slightly disappointed we’ve missed out on both Fabinho or Jorginho, particularly given the fees for both are very reasonable.
I’d like us to transition to a more expansive possession based style and Jorginho seems a more natural ball-player than Matic. Even with Matic I think there’s probably room for us to add two midfielders to the squad, though it’d probably be a touch inefficient given the calibre of player we would need to bench.
It’ll be very interesting to see who has the best season out of Fabinho, Jorginho and Fred.
I’d like us to transition to a more expansive possession based style and Jorginho seems a more natural ball-player than Matic. Even with Matic I think there’s probably room for us to add two midfielders to the squad, though it’d probably be a touch inefficient given the calibre of player we would need to bench.
It’ll be very interesting to see who has the best season out of Fabinho, Jorginho and Fred.
That's the only way Italians are making money these days.
City scouting and transfers have been phenomenal throughout last 6-8 years. You can have Pep as your manager but those working behind the scene at City are real winners. Today the situation is such that when City is behind a player the other supporters start getting worried.
I mean Mehrez, a rare RW breed proven in PL, hanging there since last 2 years wanting to leave the club and yet he is linked with only City. Jeez.
I mean Mehrez, a rare RW breed proven in PL, hanging there since last 2 years wanting to leave the club and yet he is linked with only City. Jeez.
You don't need scouting to sign the players they have or doing. They were all big names before they moved to City.
Agree with the above its not like we've suddenly spotted two rough diamonds, this is Mahrez (a player of the year and PL winner) and one of the best players in Serie A we are talking about. I think the biggest improvement in City has been not taking chances on silly players like Rodwell, Navas or Sinclair anymore.
Based on France-Italy games, I think Jorginho will be a Darmain version of midfielders, weak defensively, slow and cannot handle the pace.
That shouldn't be an issue with system Pep plays, if he's technically sound then yes he can adopt the way they play.But from what you say on his defensive side of play then no way he's replacing Fernandinho.Pep should have other plans with him.
United should offer slightly more money (than City's) to Napoli for Jorginho.
doesn't matter, player has said before he doesn't want to come here and play our style of football with our shite quality players. I really don't blame him, going to the backline to retrieve the ball from chris smalling and playing hoof ball doesn't get people here excited either
Jorginho would be terrible for us. I don't think he'll be great at City either to be honest. If he's there to slot in for Fernandinho, yes they'll have a better passer but they'll miss Fernandinho's industry and defensive ability.
Maybe. However, United have certainly struggled to match them effectively in this regard which suggests it either isn't as simple as it would seem or that our club is just rather incompetent.
It also depends on coach who can get the best out of players. Sterling, Otamendi didn't look all that great before Pep, same with players like Lallana at Liverpool. Previously we had manager who brought best out of players, now I don't think Jose is getting best out of them.
How far are you going back?
They all looked great before Pep!
Pellegrini should be getting criticised for their performances, not Pep rubbing his magic hands over them.
SAF. Since his to retirement that's one of our bigger problem.
Phew. For a moment I thought you’d lost your sense.
looks like this is now a done deal, £43m rising to £48m with bonuses, be interesting to see how long it takes him to adapt to the prem, I'm not sure he'll be a massive success initially in the league but think he'll be ideal for the CL next season.
It will be interesting to see how he does. I've never seen him play particularly well outside of Sarri's Napoli, which is probably one of the 'most-coached' sides in Europe, where everyone knows their exact role and movements and interplay are precisely rehearsed etc.
Having seen both his (and Insigne's) average-to-poor performances for the national side, there is a suspicion that they might be system players, who will always struggle away from Napoli. Of course Guardiola and Sarri are not entirely dissimilar in their coaching methods and systems of play, so he may adapt well to his new surroundings.
Extremely similar styles.
Coupled with the fact he will be there to dictate and control the play in the middle, it will help that hes coming into the team with that's the most creative with the most possession in the league.
Gutted Chelsea missed out on him. Him RLC and Kante in the middle could've worked very well.
Hope he flops.
Given the identity of your new manager, it is surprising in some ways that you didn't make a more concerted effort to get the player. Budgetary constraints perhaps, or maybe the deal with City was just too far along.
Yeah I think the second part is quite likely, there's rumours we are after both Golovin and Seri.
We still haven't actually confirmed Sarri yet even though all reports say it will be shortly, I think city probably started talks for the deal a lot quicker and so have snapped him up.
Very happy with this signing.
He's the right age, fills a pressing need (Yaya gone and Fernandinho gradually wearing down), played in a comparable system and we've managed to get him out of a tough negotiating club at a fair price.
He will help us continue to keep high levels of possession and supply the forwards with good ammunition.
He's the right age, fills a pressing need (Yaya gone and Fernandinho gradually wearing down), played in a comparable system and we've managed to get him out of a tough negotiating club at a fair price.
He will help us continue to keep high levels of possession and supply the forwards with good ammunition.
It's annoying City are signing the types of players we need (Walker and Mendy last summer, Jorginho and Mahrez this) while we're signing midfielders like Fred and 19 year old RB's
City tried to sign Fred in January.
When City were linked with Fred in January there was a shite ton of posts mentioning how we should be going for players like Fred. Ridiculous.
Indeed. If City had just signed Fred and we were closing in on Jorginho, we'd see a raft of posts bemoaning how slow he is, that he's not very press-resistant and struggles with physicality. Buyer's remorse/grass is always greener.
What's wrong with Fred?
I think Fred is a solid signing, the biggest difference I see between the two sides in the market is that City seem to be signing players who fit a system the manager is fully behind... You just know how Jorginho will fit into the squad because Napoli play a similar way and he’s excelled playing that brand of football. I don’t get the same feeling looking at Uniteds summer targets. Good players always join the club but don’t seem to fit into a coherent system that works - Martial & Sanchez should be causing problems all the time on the pitch but it doesn’t quite land.
Same with Mahrez, he has shown what he can do at Leicester; City only have Sane, Sterling and B.Silva for 2 winger positions for a full season (one of whom is a very different type of winger) and you just know he would slot into the system as it is and cause teams problems.
I’ve seen a lot made about City’s high hit rate on transfer success in the last few years, and in reality I just think it’s a more planned approach that’s made it look that way. The players are coming in and doing the business because they suit the style of football.
Just don't think we need a Herrera upgrade but a ball player like Carrick
Turns out Jorginho looks to be joining Chelsea and not Citeh. Behold, the inevitable Bluemoon revisionism
Turns out Jorginho looks to be joining Chelsea and not Citeh. Behold, the inevitable Bluemoon revisionism
Jesus
I absolutely love when this happens
So is that Pep 0 Money 3 so far?
Jeez maybe Pep isn't as attractive as they thought
So is that Pep 0 Money 3 so far?
Jeez maybe Pep isn't as attractive as they thought
They really seem to be pushing that narrative a lot the past few transfer windows. Wonder what's changed.I absolutely love when this happens
So is that Pep 0 Money 3 so far?
Jeez maybe Pep isn't as attractive as they thought
We should go in for Mahrez just for the lol's
Strange if Chelsea get him. They are drowning in midfielders.
I guess it makes sense given their current situation - sense just isn't present.
I guess it makes sense given their current situation - sense just isn't present.
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