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Some "free" transferIt's not a 'plan' though, it'll be a forced reaction.
Also City spun the line/lie that they didn't go for Sanchez in January due to money, yet he was a free transfer and you ended up spending £60m on Mahrez
No such thing as a free lunch.
Some "free" transfer
No such thing as a free lunch.
Exchanged for Mkhi who United paid £24m for. Slightly less than the £60m Mahrez, right?
Not that a care what a player costs etc, but it's silly to spin the money line then pay £60m for an alternative.
HM was worth more than 24m. You got him for that because he was near end of his BVB contract and had him signed to a long term contract so his value was higher when he left despite mediocre performance.
This plus wages, agents fees etc. made Sanchez an expensive acquisition despite the "free" tagline. He's given you a selection headache too.
Mahrez is worth the money to us. We struggled to break down teams who defend deep, plus gives us a great set piece specialist.
How good is Mahrez in a team that doesn't play on the break? Haven't seen him have to play against team sitting deep all too often.
And Mahrez isn't paid wages, agent fee and all that?
City paid more in agent fee than ManUtd.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/43632830
Just because few journalists tried to spin that players cost 180 million doesn't make it true. Even the contract leaks showed how wrong journalists were regarding Sanchez wages.
Also Mahrez was already on more than 100K at Leicester, so he will be earning huge wages too, on top of that 60M (rising to 75M according to Jamie Jackson) transfer fee.
Kante isn't going anywhere. That's Drinkwater and possibly Cesc leaving. Not sure we're ready to offload Barkley but that could also happen.
Remarks like this are hilarious because it assumes that Chelsea will remain in the EL every season. It's not like we've been a perennial CL club for close to 2 decades now or anything.So he rather play in the EL than CL just to live in London?
Just live in London and go to Manchester for training then.
Would love it if City didn't get him, though
The best things come to those who wait
Mahrez wage is £200k per week.
Any links? I didn't check, last time I checked he was on 120K at Leicester so obviously he would be earning near 200K at new club.
Last summer City bid £35m for Sanchez, then we were told they didn’t want him in January due to money, but they paid £60m for his alternative this summer. It doesn’t add up.
You do realise Mahrez gets a wage too (reported 200k per week) along with agent fees? Or in your fairytale is big bad United the only ones who have to pay wages and agent fees?
Does Mahrez not provide a selection headache with B.Silva, Sane, Sterling and the rest?
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We would have struggled to offload Miki for £20m given his huge wages, and so limited clubs could have bought him - and who would have given he’s had one great season in 5, and been poor for 18 months. He was not a good asset, and we were very lucky Arsenal took him.
City didn’t want to pay a huge fee for a player that they thought they had a free run at, and could get for free this summer. That’s logical, and why Mahrez is a bigger transfer fee.
It's amazing how butthurt City fans and their journos regarding any transfer target of theirs who ends up elsewhere to the point they spin everything to make the player look like a greedy cnut for choosing to play elsewhere other than the Etihad for Pep for free or something.
Just for the record, I personally understand why Jorghino should go to Chelsea and wish him well (mostly).
They really are a weird and annoying club. Desperate to be seen as relevant and ‘big’ but they just aren’t.
Think they bauked at the wages and bonuses he wanted. Even at 200k for Mahrez that still falls way short of the 600k it works out at for Sanchez if his bonuses are met.
As for where he’ll play I’m guessing the long term plan is that he will eventually become an option in midfield like B.Silva will. One of them will be the D.Silva replacement.
City fans aren't particularly butthurt, at least not more than typical fans. What is extremely bizarre is the club PR machine that has tried to create a scenario where they aren't allowed to be outbid.
I think Guardiola used this Pep vs Money line at his previous clubs and it worked because of the clubs he was at. It has obviously not worked at City because money is the biggest pull at City.
I think Guardiola used this Pep vs Money line at his previous clubs and it worked because of the clubs he was at. It has obviously not worked at City because money is the biggest pull at City.
What makes you think i am talking about anything else than the coming season?
Much bigger chance, at the moment, that City will play regularily in the CL than Chelsea.
Chelsea have to get past United, City, Spurs or Liverpool, and it's not given that they will, atleast not the coming season.
2 is just bullshit, and you know it. It's the biggest stage of football, and players want to be in it, even if they know it's a slim chance they'll win it.
Because I don't think Players sign on a one season basis.
It was in that football leak book then everyone quoted that German mag that was the first to print it. His wage is 391k a week was it not? with a 75k bonus for every game he starts which is roughly 2 a week. Then he gets a 1.1 mil bonus every year as part of his sign on fee. His sign on fee was pretty big as well. Then the payment to Arsenal of Miki. Sanchez cost us a lot of money yet people act like we picked up a free transfer for nothing, he was a massive investment.
His performance bonuses are massive as well but not as easy to reach. CL win, Pl win or a combined 40 goals and assists in a season.
Sure, United got some pretty big names when not in the CL, but right now Chelsea seems to be in kind of a mess with the manager situation, and the transfers the last couple years (honetly, they have not been very impressive, seems like Abramovitch sort of got bored), while City just destroyed the PL.
apparently a few twitter sources are saying Jorginho still wants to go to City not Chelsea but Chelsea have offered way more, not sure what happens when a player wants to go to one club but the other club is offering a fair bit more.
That 391 also included CL bonus and image rights. There is a thread on that. No player's wage is reported including image rights and all the bonuses, Sanchez' was to sensationalize it
He's not a big of addition to City but he'll massively improve Chelsea's midfield.
City have only one defensive minded midfielder and he's 33 They need him more than Chelsea.
Don't disagree but they can still manage without Jorginho quite well and Fernandinho was great for them last season.
Look at Chelsea at the other hand, only Kante is good. Fabre is useless in 2 men midfield and Barkley, Bakayoko and Drinkwater are crap/average at best. Jorginho will transform this midfield to much better side.
Nothing you've said contradicts what I've said. Players want to be in the competition, doesn't mean they'll sign because of it. CL football is 4th or 5th priority for most top players. Money is almost always the no.1 priority because it's a job at the end of the day, then you have family and location which are usually more important as well (lifestyle choices).
I'd like to see Gundo given a go there and Delph wouldn't be a terrible option as a #6
Agreed not sure about the mess though, if we get the targets that are looking likely it will be our best window since probably 2015, most years that we don't do as well we usually bounce back the next season.
We have an attacking manager that will be announced in the next 48 hours and will most likely convince hazard to stay as he has openly said in interviews its down to our style of play and signings.
Roman still appears to be hands on and there's a lot of talk that the only reason the Jorghino/Sarri saga has accelerated is due to him becoming involved.
Outside of that us along with City have been the most successful English sides over the last 5 or so years.
I'm very happy if City don't get Jorginho. Chelsea will be shit anyway, and if they can help getting Liverpool out of the CL, I'm all for it. They need a replacement for Fernandinho badly, who might become too old to play as the only DM. Imagine him and Silva dropping off this season. They can only replace him with Gundogan or Delph really, which is a massive step down. I doubt a Gundogan-KDB-Silva midfield would be able to cope defensively.
I won't bet on that at all. A new manager and a good 2-3 signings can reignite their squad.
IF they can keep Courtois and Hazard, while signing Sarri, Jorginho, a new RWB and a top class striker - maybe. I don't see them doing all that though..
Possible PL contenders:
Courtois
Azpilicueta Christensen Rudiger
Meunier Jorginho Kante Alonso
Willian Lewandowski Hazard
Possible EL contenders:Azpilicueta Christensen Rudiger
Meunier Jorginho Kante Alonso
Willian Lewandowski Hazard
Caballero
Azpilicueta Christensen Rudiger
Moses Jorginho Kante Alonso
Willian Giroud Pedro
Azpilicueta Christensen Rudiger
Moses Jorginho Kante Alonso
Willian Giroud Pedro
I didn't realise he was signing a 1 year contract and not a 5 year contract. Within his time at Chelsea in those 5 years (if he doesn't extend his contract), Chelsea will win the PL at least twice. You can say whatever you want about Chelsea but we don't go more than a season or two of tormoil (if/when it does come) before getting back to winning. Don't talk to me about Liverpool or Spurs who haven't won the title in decades. And Jose isn't winning the league with United either. The real competition is City.
I know nothing about this chap. Is he comparable (in terms of playing style) to anyone from the Prem?
Don't say Bakayoko.
Don't say Bakayoko.
Carrick.
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